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joanie_dan

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Agoda charges ridiculous fx exchange rate.

I made bookings for japan in their .sg website, ridiculously have bookings charged in sgd and jpy. For the jpy bookings, the exchange rate charged on payment date was 76 vs 82.3 spot rate, >10x spread charged by money changers.

At your own risk guys, should avoid such unscrupulous business ethics
 

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It’s the exchange rate of agoda or is it the banks exchange rate.

So end up what site you book by?
 

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Agoda charges ridiculous fx exchange rate.

I made bookings for japan in their .sg website, ridiculously have bookings charged in sgd and jpy. For the jpy bookings, the exchange rate charged on payment date was 76 vs 82.3 spot rate, >10x spread charged by money changers.

At your own risk guys, should avoid such unscrupulous business ethics

you should have use paypal lah
 

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Care to share how does PayPal mitigate the issue when agoda converts the payment to local sgd and charge the sgd directly to the credit card? Wouldn’t PayPal (linked to a credit card) be charged the same as well?
 

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Which hotels are those anyway? Care to share? Then we can take a look what went wrong.
 

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Care to share how does PayPal mitigate the issue when agoda converts the payment to local sgd and charge the sgd directly to the credit card? Wouldn’t PayPal (linked to a credit card) be charged the same as well?
Paypal might give you the option to convert at your bank's end instead of paypal's fx rate.

Or maybe dispute the txn if you really think the fx rate is too ridiculous. I've disputed other txn before though not under this scenario.
 

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Booked 10x hotels thru Agoda and i selected the Pay Now option for all to play safe, be it rates go up or down by then. Same goes for other booking websites.
 

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Did you use the book now and pay later option?
If I am not wrong. Agoda charges extra (as much as 5% or more extra) if you use the pay later option.
according to their terms and condition page
https://www.agoda.com/info/agoda-termsofuse.html?cid=-218

Pay Now bookings

When you select your Payment Currency on the booking page, we will update your total price to show the amount we will process to your payment account. We can do this because we know the exchange rate at that time. Agoda uses our Indicated Rate to convert currencies for Pay Now transactions.

Book Now Pay Later bookings

When you select your Payment Currency on the booking page, we will update your total price to show an estimate of the amount we will process on your payment date. We cannot show you the exact amount because the exchange rate will fluctuate between the booking date and the payment date. Agoda uses our Daily Adjusted Rate for Book Now Pay Later transactions.

Agoda exchange rates

If your Payment Currency is different from the currency of your payment account, your account provider will determine the exchange rate to use when the transaction is applied to your account. Your account provider may offer a higher or lower rate than Agoda, and may charge you additional fees for a foreign transaction. Agoda does not control or benefit from your account provider’s exchange rate or fees.

Indicated Rate – Bloomberg Generic Composite Rate mid-rate on the current day.
Daily Adjusted Rate – Bloomberg Generic Composite Rate on the day payment is processed plus 5%.


So I think it is better to use the Pay Now option to get the current rate shown
 
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Beefsteak thumbsup. Shouldn’t this 5% extra terms be reflected upfront instead of being hidden in t&C which most wouldn’t read? Otherwise, at the payment page, purely stating “subject to exchange rate fluctuations” is entirely misleading and a form of misrepresentation
 

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Beefsteak thumbsup. Shouldn’t this 5% extra terms be reflected upfront instead of being hidden in t&C which most wouldn’t read? Otherwise, at the payment page, purely stating “subject to exchange rate fluctuations” is entirely misleading and a form of misrepresentation

All terms are usually hidden inside T&C for ALL purchases online, not just Agoda. Besides, there are like thousands on words, how you want them to put all out front at payment page?

The T&C link is reflected in the options page of PAY NOW or PAY LATER. So, in a way, they have indicated there and should buyer accept either option, it is taken that buyer had agreed to the T&C.

Just being fair here though. If there were no T&C link shown during option selection page, then it might create a case for you to argue back with agoda.
 

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Booked 10x hotels thru Agoda and i selected the Pay Now option for all to play safe, be it rates go up or down by then. Same goes for other booking websites.

Same here, normally for agoda and expedia, usually would book pay now.
Normally book now, pay later is with free cancellations ...
For example, they say 3 nov your credit card would be charged ...
however, your free cancellations usually is 2 days later ...
hence you can still cancel the hotel booking within the next 48 hours ...
would be subject to exchange rate still ...
 

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Actually I didn't know about this too until people brought it up.
Most people won't bother to read the T&C.
 

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Same here, normally for agoda and expedia, usually would book pay now.
Normally book now, pay later is with free cancellations ...
For example, they say 3 nov your credit card would be charged ...
however, your free cancellations usually is 2 days later ...
hence you can still cancel the hotel booking within the next 48 hours ...
would be subject to exchange rate still ...

2 days earlier you mean? lol.

Usually both pay now and pay later have free cancellation till a certain date. I believe it is dependent on the hotel itself.
 

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Interesting. Didn't know this.

Sent from HUAWEI BLA-L29 using GAGT

Me too .. I always thought Pay Later is just subject to FX fluctuations ... never knew about the 5% extra !

So far I have only used Pay Now option to secure CC rebates.
 

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Obviously u can’t put the entire t&c out, but to inform the 5% surcharge, how difficult is it? If they can write “subject to exchange rate fluctuations”, I don’t see why they can’t add “5% surcharge”? Duhhhhhh

All terms are usually hidden inside T&C for ALL purchases online, not just Agoda. Besides, there are like thousands on words, how you want them to put all out front at payment page?

The T&C link is reflected in the options page of PAY NOW or PAY LATER. So, in a way, they have indicated there and should buyer accept either option, it is taken that buyer had agreed to the T&C.

Just being fair here though. If there were no T&C link shown during option selection page, then it might create a case for you to argue back with agoda.
 

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Do other hotel booking sites do similar things with book 1st but pay later?
 

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i don't think they called it surcharge, but just different way fx are calculated. i suspect when you choose pay later, fx conversion will not be handled by agoda, perhaps by the hotel? just making guesses here.

i think they could have explain it better

Pay Now bookings
When you select your Payment Currency on the booking page, we will update your total price to show the amount we will process to your payment account. We can do this because we know the exchange rate at that time. Agoda uses our Indicated Rate to convert currencies for Pay Now transactions.

Book Now Pay Later bookings
When you select your Payment Currency on the booking page, we will update your total price to show an estimate of the amount we will process on your payment date. We cannot show you the exact amount because the exchange rate will fluctuate between the booking date and the payment date. Agoda uses our Daily Adjusted Rate for Book Now Pay Later transactions.

Indicated Rate – Bloomberg Generic Composite Rate mid-rate on the current day.
Daily Adjusted Rate – Bloomberg Generic Composite Rate on the day payment is processed plus 5%.

When you choose to have Agoda handle the currency conversion on the transaction, we will not charge you an additional transaction or service fee.

Obviously u can’t put the entire t&c out, but to inform the 5% surcharge, how difficult is it? If they can write “subject to exchange rate fluctuations”, I don’t see why they can’t add “5% surcharge”? Duhhhhhh
 
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