Air purifier?

[laeticia]

T version, I don't find myself paying 50% more for CO2 measurement.

and me and wife can stay in my flat 3 straight days with little airing.

Thanks I'm off to order mine

btw whats wrong with Bumbox?

ETA: just realised it was your review that I read in the main haze thread

 

[laeticia]

found this while googling

Air cube T
For Infants and elderly homes, Institutions Disease, Skin allergy sufferers, Company, School and Office

Air cube C
For Infants and elderly homes, Institutions Disease, Skin allergy sufferers, Car driver, Students, and Meeting room
*Measurement of carbon dioxide and prevent drowsy driving

From the official eng press release

SK Telecom (NYSE:SKM) today announced the launch of Air Cube, a portable air monitoring device that measures air quality anywhere, anytime, and suggests appropriate actions at emergencies via a designated application on user’s smartphone.

Designed to enhance people’s health and well-being, Air Cube monitors the air quality of the surrounding environment to determine if the conditions are just right for users. Air Cube comes in two different models: Air Cube C measures the level of fine dust particles and carbon dioxide, while Air Cube T offers fine dust level and discomfort index (by measuring temperature and humidity). The air quality is measured every 15 seconds and the results are shown in five levels. When the air contamination/pollution reaches or exceeds level four, the device makes an alarm sound to warn users.

Moreover, Air Cube can be connected to users’ smartphones through Bluetooth* connection: After downloading the Air Cube application to their smartphones and activating Bluetooth, users can receive real-time push ___alerts at emergencies and view detailed information on appropriate actions to be taken by users to avoid health risks caused by contaminated air. Through the application, users can also remotely activate the device to check the air quality. The Air Cube application is available for free at Google Play, Apple App Store and SK Planet T Store.

*Air Cube is designed to work with devices that support Bluetooth 4.0 or higher.

The biggest strength of Air Cube lies in portability and affordability: Unlike the existing air monitoring devices that are mostly too bulky and expensive for general individuals, Air Cube is small and light-weight, measuring 52mm X 52mm X 52mm and 80 grams, and can be purchased at two to tens of times lower price than the existing devices.

Air Cube is expected to help not only those who are relatively more vulnerable to poor air quality like pregnant women, infants and children, but will also enable those who spend a significant amount of time in close spaces, including long distance drivers, office workers and students, to protect themselves against negative effects of contaminated air by taking timely and proper actions.

Customers can purchase Air Cube at online shopping mall 11st from today and will be able to buy the device at Auction and G Market from tomorrow. The prices for Air Cube C and Air Cube T are KRW 149,000 (USD 134) and KRW 95,000 (USD 86), respectively.

“SK Telecom’s Air Cube is expected to satisfy consumers’ desire for a more pleasant and healthy life,” said Park Chul-soon, Senior Vice President and Head of Convergence Business Office at SK Telecom. “We will continue to make efforts to enhance customer value by developing diverse smart appcessaries that can be connected to smartphones.”

 

[mindgamey]

Thanks I'm off to order mine

btw whats wrong with Bumbox?

ETA: just realised it was your review that I read in the main haze thread

qoo10 has a delivery system similar to singpost popstation called bumbox.

it's horrible cos they said westgate bumbox got issue will deliver directly to me from 14 Oct, no news until I got sms on 16 Oct evening that it's at the westgate bumbox contrary to what they said.

used the qr code to collect, took 3-5 min f repeated attempts before the system recognised. I had no issue with qr code for my active@sg tickets.

 

[Jasonrulez]

it was still in stock this morning.
passion gadget 3 month warranty.
ax40 I guess as good as no warranty unless you don't mind to ship back.

Ic. Can i go passion gadget shop to get it if they got stock ? If possible i will get the ready stock and apply it asap. Lol
Cant tahan the smoke

 

[makav31i]

True but i do leave my room occasionally to use the bathroom or go to kitchen, and there is air exchange with the rest of the house.

My house has shutters in the 2nd floor high ceiling that cannot be closed so haze gets into my house, and on very windy days I can feel my door moving slightly so I think my room is not completely sealed (it's quite an old house). I figure not that much risk of high CO2 levels...

Btw do you bring the air cube outside or just leave at home?

just leave it at home for the moment..

 

[makav31i]

Air cube take how long to arrive in SG....tempted to buy to put in car....

I bought on 30 Sep and it arrive on 13 Oct...Need to remind the seller of your order...

 

[mindgamey]

Ic. Can i go passion gadget shop to get it if they got stock ? If possible i will get the ready stock and apply it asap. Lol
Cant tahan the smoke

their website showed oos.
ya you have to go to their website they removed the listing on qoo10 which had 80+ reviews.
I recommend getting ax40 from happy mall if you need ap urgently.
if you wait for xiaomi, gonna be 3 weeks for their shipment based on what I observed

 

[WussRedXLi]

how did you chance on this AP ?
what made you buy it ?

(1) I saw the video on the M8088A posted by dqwong, and saw the 584 m3/hr spec.

I wanted to consolidate my APs, which I have been doing so (sold 4 liao) coz the 2015 haze season is closing. I learnt some stuff in 2015 with high concentration haze.

I know I need the horsepower (m3/hr) but I also appreciate low electrical consumption at a decent airflow. 5 ACH is a must for allergic rhinitis suffers, minimum. 8-10 ACH is recommended esp for those severe cases.
I have already tamed mine such that ~ 5 ACH won't trigger my threshold already. It's basically an inflammation based allergic reaction that you'd have to consistently control it so that the inflammation can heal. You do this with allergen control (preventive) or with antihistamines (reactive). And some cases you need months before you see results. Taking so much meds usually does not go down with a lot of people and probably is not good for some organs, of coz you know people are lazy in taking meds, so your inflammation does not get the chance to fully heal. Endless loop, up down up down response to the allergens. This can go on for > half of your lifetime! It's needless suffering.


http://www.myhealthbeijing.com/2015/03/

•Since a proper air purifier needs to replace the entire room air at least five times an hour (5 Air Changes Per Hour, or ACH) to really be effective, you need air purifiers that collectively can cover the volume 5 times. So the total airflow (风机空载风量), or Clean Air Delivery Rate (CADR) you need = room volume x 5. For my front rooms, I need 210 x 5 = 1050 cubic meters per hour (m3/h) CADR. Since no single machine has this much power, I’ll need to buy a few machines.
•Then you need to research air purifiers’ CADR — but here’s where it gets tricky: the published CADR applies only to max speed which is almost always not the speed you will be using 99% of the time. Most machines’ max speeds are far too noisy for normal use, and the speed you’ll actually be using may have airflow much less than the published CADR. The problem is that it’s hard to find published CADR for the lower speeds. I think as a general rule, you should cut the CADR in half to get a more accurate sense of how much coverage you’ll get.


M8088A in medium mode is 326 m3/hr, draws 29W only. Great. After receiving it, I found that it's even more silent than the AX40 in high (323 m3/hr), not a lot but it's appreciable. Nice.

M8088A in high and turbo mode causes fatique when people are around. There are specific uses for this, but it's limited.
This "fatique" is not new to many of us who are experienced with APs, many users of the HW 50250 back in 2013 (PSI 401) already know of this in speed 3 (250 CFM, approx. 430 m3/hr), and had to resort to kick back to speed 1, which is too low......and STILL is a bit too loud for sleeping for the light sleepers. High CADR is usually 80% gimmick, the use in real life is very specific and limited....and is useful only with "automation". With the 50250, it's all manual, you'd have to control it.

With Sharp APs, the Clean ION mode is useful in that it guns in higher (noisier) speed for 20 minutes and kicks back automatically.
With xiaomi and M8088A, this is auto, and further enhanced with remote control app on your mobile, so that you can either control before reaching home, or set a daily auto power on routine.


Do consider this. A typical 4-room BTO MBR is about 52 cu metre in vol.
In medium, it's 326/52 = 6 ACH. Even if you generously give a 20% allowance due to furnitures/bed/cabinet, it's still 7.83 ACH.
Is bare minimum.

Some use a single Sharp A28 and comment that it did not help their sinus or rhinitis at all. Just read the qoo10 reviews/comments.
That's probably because they operate it in medium or low speed, due to high speed being too noisy. Then they and some doctors say that it's gimmicky and cannot guarantee a cure for the condition. I have been a rhinitis sufferer for the past 30+ years and am a AP user for 9 years, no issue for me.

Basically that's about it.

 

[laeticia]

qoo10 has a delivery system similar to singpost popstation called bumbox.

it's horrible cos they said westgate bumbox got issue will deliver directly to me from 14 Oct, no news until I got sms on 16 Oct evening that it's at the westgate bumbox contrary to what they said.

used the qr code to collect, took 3-5 min f repeated attempts before the system recognised. I had no issue with qr code for my active@sg tickets.

wah that's bad....

 

[dqwong]

here's some useful infographic from foobot site:

Rather large so put spoiler:

Spoiler

 

[(^@^)"]

The current $114.90 price is early bird discount, cart coupons not applicable

It's back to $121.90. That one can apply $10 cart discount.

 

[(^@^)"]

(1) I saw the video on the M8088A posted by dqwong, and saw the 584 m3/hr spec.

I wanted to consolidate my APs, which I have been doing so (sold 4 liao) coz the 2015 haze season is closing. I learnt some stuff in 2015 with high concentration haze.

I know I need the horsepower (m3/hr) but I also appreciate low electrical consumption at a decent airflow. 5 ACH is a must for allergic rhinitis suffers, minimum. 8-10 ACH is recommended esp for those severe cases.
I have already tamed mine such that ~ 5 ACH won't trigger my threshold already. It's basically an inflammation based allergic reaction that you'd have to consistently control it so that the inflammation can heal. You do this with allergen control (preventive) or with antihistamines (reactive). And some cases you need months before you see results. Taking so much meds usually does not go down with a lot of people and probably is not good for some organs, of coz you know people are lazy in taking meds, so your inflammation does not get the chance to fully heal. Endless loop, up down up down response to the allergens. This can go on for > half of your lifetime! It's needless suffering.


http://www.myhealthbeijing.com/2015/03/

•Since a proper air purifier needs to replace the entire room air at least five times an hour (5 Air Changes Per Hour, or ACH) to really be effective, you need air purifiers that collectively can cover the volume 5 times. So the total airflow (风机空载风量), or Clean Air Delivery Rate (CADR) you need = room volume x 5. For my front rooms, I need 210 x 5 = 1050 cubic meters per hour (m3/h) CADR. Since no single machine has this much power, I’ll need to buy a few machines.
•Then you need to research air purifiers’ CADR — but here’s where it gets tricky: the published CADR applies only to max speed which is almost always not the speed you will be using 99% of the time. Most machines’ max speeds are far too noisy for normal use, and the speed you’ll actually be using may have airflow much less than the published CADR. The problem is that it’s hard to find published CADR for the lower speeds. I think as a general rule, you should cut the CADR in half to get a more accurate sense of how much coverage you’ll get.


M8088A in medium mode is 326 m3/hr, draws 29W only. Great. After receiving it, I found that it's even more silent than the AX40 in high (323 m3/hr), not a lot but it's appreciable. Nice.

M8088A in high and turbo mode causes fatique when people are around. There are specific uses for this, but it's limited.
This "fatique" is not new to many of us who are experienced with APs, many users of the HW 50250 back in 2013 (PSI 401) already know of this in speed 3 (250 CFM, approx. 430 m3/hr), and had to resort to kick back to speed 1, which is too low......and STILL is a bit too loud for sleeping for the light sleepers. High CADR is usually 80% gimmick, the use in real life is very specific and limited....and is useful only with "automation". With the 50250, it's all manual, you'd have to control it.

With Sharp APs, the Clean ION mode is useful in that it guns in higher (noisier) speed for 20 minutes and kicks back automatically.
With xiaomi and M8088A, this is auto, and further enhanced with remote control app on your mobile, so that you can either control before reaching home, or set a daily auto power on routine.


Do consider this. A typical 4-room BTO MBR is about 52 cu metre in vol.
In medium, it's 326/52 = 6 ACH. Even if you generously give a 20% allowance due to furnitures/bed/cabinet, it's still 7.83 ACH.
Is bare minimum.

Some use a single Sharp A28 and comment that it did not help their sinus or rhinitis at all. Just read the qoo10 reviews/comments.
That's probably because they operate it in medium or low speed, due to high speed being too noisy. Then they and some doctors say that it's gimmicky and cannot guarantee a cure for the condition. I have been a rhinitis sufferer for the past 30+ years and am a AP user for 9 years, no issue for me.

Basically that's about it.

Boss, so you will recommend m8088a over AX40 for a bigger area like the living room?
Which seller you bought from? The one with the most number of people purchase from him? There are a few with the same pricing.

 

[Tryg2015]

Boss, so you will recommend m8088a over AX40 for a bigger area like the living room?
Which seller you bought from? The one with the most number of people purchase from him? There are a few with the same pricing.

Bro, you buying ah? Me tempted too.... But I'm thinking maybe next El Niño year then buy, else my house where got so much storage place?

 

[dqwong]

IMHO sharp A28 is ineffective against the current level of sustained severe haze levels

 

[(^@^)"]

Bro, you buying ah? Me tempted too.... But I'm thinking maybe next El Niño year then buy, else my house where got so much storage place?

I check with my wife how much first. You want can tong pang.

 

[(^@^)"]

Ok. It's about $330 including shipping. If go by the slow method, shipping a lot cheaper.

 

[gallyban]

Hey frens

I wanna ask if i buy ax40 samsung ap fr happymall there is no warranty paper rite then how

 

[(^@^)"]

Hey frens

I wanna ask if i buy ax40 samsung ap fr happymall there is no warranty paper rite then how

Hope you not so suay. So far no one has complained of problems. If you want warranty, there is a local equivalent version but more ex. Take it as you are paying for a cheaper version with no warranty.

 

[gallyban]

Hope you not so suay. So far no one has complained of problems. If you want warranty, there is a local equivalent version but more ex. Take it as you are paying for a cheaper version with no warranty.

Heehe okay cos i learnt that stores such as gain city alr have stocks !! Previously island down no stock. I just bot recently online haiz!

 

[makav31i]

Heehe okay cos i learnt that stores such as gain city alr have stocks !! Previously island down no stock. I just bot recently online haiz!

The local version is AX41 which the RRP is $549...Buy the AX40 is below $300 and get an extra filter...It is a no brainer decision if you ask me...