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Akky85

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Roy Ngerng admitted that everything was his PERSONAL's findings. Seems like you cant accept the fact. He even apologised for it, you butthurt fag. Obviously if Roy was so confident in his "facts" produced, there was no way he would lose the case. The govt has no needs to produce evidence that Roy is wrong, when it's clear that Roy knew sh*t about the funds spent. Fact is Roy is just a mere nurse who has no credibility. If he was working as a high-positioned accounting position under the govt, probably his so-called sources would sound more reliable. You sound quite dumb to understand this. Do you do law?

If the Gov has no need to provide evidence then who's to verify whatever they say is true? Is that not a mockery of the laws we have ? Why bother having law Courts in Singapore if one, individual or organisation, do not have to prove anything?


I mean as of now, whatever are the gov or PM lee has said in response to Roy's case are just WORDS. Mere words with hardly any concrete evidence on the gov side to support the words. Not much different from the exact same words that you or i can mutter as well?
 

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too low EQ,why mention christians? just comment on pinky and LKY ok liao

He is slamming a new "religion" that surfaced last week. Why he chose Christianity? Because Christians are not butthurt when you insult Jesus. So when a sedition charge comes out, it is clearly not for the benefit of Christians but for the new cult.
 

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Roy Ngerng admitted that everything was his PERSONAL's findings. Seems like you cant accept the fact. He even apologised for it, you butthurt fag. Obviously if Roy was so confident in his "facts" produced, there was no way he would lose the case. The govt has no needs to produce evidence that Roy is wrong, when it's clear that Roy knew sh*t about the funds spent. Fact is Roy is just a mere nurse who has no credibility. If he was working as a high-positioned accounting position under the govt, probably his so-called sources would sound more reliable. You sound quite dumb to understand this. Do you do law?

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it also means if one goes after him one admits to being a *******ker ~ :)

I believe he directing it towards fuku alone. Means possibly he saying that fuku **** gecko? Serious allegation and he must be able to back it up..
 

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too low EQ,why mention christians? just comment on pinky and LKY ok liao

https://www.change.org/p/the-govern...book_responsive&utm_term=mob-xs-no_src-no_msg

As Singaporeans, we are thankful for the laws of our land and trust in our courts. Our peace and freedoms in Singapore attest to that.

In regard to Amos Yee:
We are not offended by Amos Yee's statements.
His opinions about our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ neither threaten our faith nor diminish our love for Him.
Please release Amos Yee.
We forgive him and desire he have a full life of contribution to his community ahead of him.


A reminder to my Christian brothers and sisters:
Those in our faith have a keen understanding for what it means to be on the wrong side of righteousness, we know we receive God's love through no merit of our own.

As ugly as Amos Yee's words were, we forgive because Jesus loved us despite our own fallen spiritual state.

To be forgiven is an extraordinary gift & we extend this gift to Amos Yee.

"For if, while we were God's enemies, we were reconciled to him through the death of his Son, how much more, having been reconciled, shall we be saved through his life!" Romans 5:10
 
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If ppl wanna suck the translator's disco stick , it's people's problem. No need him to ji hi wai wai
 

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What's so offending in the speech? We know that it's a heresy to speak truths in singapore
 

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the harsh truths hurts.. :s13:

i did not watch the video, but if he really did bring out the two pictures of Jesus , and LKY + Thatcher in compromising positions.. he deserved to b charged.
 
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conditional apology under threat n coercion means nothing
in any case the plaintiffs did not accept it n as a result roy retracted his apology ~

so an accountant quoting a verified source is more credible den an uneducated man quoting the same source? i rest my case LOL

u are fully entitied to think wat u want of roy, tats not my problem.
likewise i am also fully entitled to think the one being dumb here is u, but i prefer to not say tat outright n rather let u display them on ur own accord ~

By your analogy, one doesnt have to credible to say anything and everyone else should believe their story. So a beggar can boast or claim anything he wants without providing credibility and being held responsible for his words.
You sound like a blind sheep, Im sure you are one of those people who believe everything you read on the internet, "just like vaccine cause autism".

Not sure how retarded you are, but I will just let you live your life like the little retard you are.


If the Gov has no need to provide evidence then who's to verify whatever they say is true? Is that not a mockery of the laws we have ? Why bother having law Courts in Singapore if one, individual or organisation, do not have to prove anything?


I mean as of now, whatever are the gov or PM lee has said in response to Roy's case are just WORDS. Mere words with hardly any concrete evidence on the gov side to support the words. Not much different from the exact same words that you or i can mutter as well?

The govt only has to take action if Roy can FIRST prove that he provided FACTS, and not just some OWNfindings which he claims are facts. You do realised Roy's apology came with the part where he admitted that his so-called facts were manipulated by himself right? None was it some a credible source. If a mere nurse can provide figures out of nowhere, Im sure someone like you can also pull the same sh*t out of your ass. Heck, anyone else can, so nobody has to take responsibility for the sh*t the sprout then? Sounds cool.
 

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tbh, i think he will still get charged. if police target u, they will find anything. think he said something about CNY. tat could also be used against him.

there goes us tax payers money :s22:
 

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I differ on this although I am not sure if a more lower salary would work. I would think one should work for passion instead of the money involved esp when their salary is so much higher as compare to the world.

Ya unfortunately LKY was already proven wrong by CSM
(i have a feeling he was asked to join WP to strengthen the opposition)

PAP had already transformed into a party that is very different from LKY's era...
LKY constant worry is on leadership succession, a point which was repeatedly emphasized
He foresee his PAP is going downhills and failing in the future

And he was not mocking the opposition when he said this, he understand the need for a strong opposition presence in the Parliament.

And he only trusted CST and LTK

"So I told Low Thia Khiang of Workers' Party and Chiam See Tong: you have been parliament for over 10 years and 20 years, well known, collect five or six good candidates and contest a GRC win it, run the GRC for five years. Prove you can run the area and later on people will vote for you to form the government and you can run Singapore.

"I hope this Tanjong Pagar constituency will be contested. Because too many no-contest, the party branches get slack. I think we should have a contest I want to have a contest it'll be good for the constituency it'll be good for the PAP the organisation."

His words really 用心良苦。
 

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If the Gov has no need to provide evidence then who's to verify whatever they say is true? Is that not a mockery of the laws we have ? Why bother having law Courts in Singapore if one, individual or organisation, do not have to prove anything?


I mean as of now, whatever are the gov or PM lee has said in response to Roy's case are just WORDS. Mere words with hardly any concrete evidence on the gov side to support the words. Not much different from the exact same words that you or i can mutter as well?

To be fair, in Roy's case, the law of defamation is to blame. In defamation, once you have made out the basic elements (words hurt your reputation amongst right-thinking members of society, etc.) then the burden of proof is reversed and falls to the defendant to prove that what he said was either said in privileged circumstances or is/was true. It's like this in the commonwealth legal systems, even in the UK. It's like that to deter people from making malicious statements in a wanton manner...
 

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For those who have missed the FamousAmos video:

Lee Kuan Yew is dead, finally.

Why hasn’t anyone said, “Yeah, the guy is dead!”

Lee Kuan Yew was a horrible person.

Because everyone is scared. Everyone is afraid that if they say something like that, they might get into trouble which — give LKY credit — was primarily the impact of his legacy.

But I’m not afraid.

So if Lee Hsien Loong wishes to sue me, I will oblige to dance with him.

Lee Kuan Yew, contrary to popular belief, was a horrible person and an awful leader to our country. He was a dictator, but managed to fool most of the world to think he was democratic. And he did so by still granting us the opportunity to vote, to make it seem like we have freedom of choice.

However, during [his] rule, he controlled the entire media and education, proliferating nationalistic propaganda on a daily basis. And he placed an excessive surplus of his books in popular bookstores. In most of his books, look at how he self-indulgently plasters reams of pages with these montages of pictures of his experiences. Like “Ooh, look how much better I am compared to you.”

And of course he is absolutely notorious for suing people who criticised him, forcing them into jail and leading them into bankruptcy. Apparently, his thirst for suing ishereditary, too. So he created an environment where his blatant flaws as a leader were hidden, because most people were afraid of criticising him in fear of being found guilty by the judicial system that he controls. So everything that people hear is about how great Lee Kuan Yew is.

Of course he is able to deceive people into voting for him. Despite our voting rights, he is undoubtedly totalitarian.

Now seeing what LKY has done, I’m sure many individuals who have done similar things comes to mind.

*X*X*X*X*X* Short paragraph about Christians and Jesus removed *X*X*X*X*X*X*

...and LKY’s followers are completely delusional and ignorant, and have absolutely no sound logic or knowledge about him that is grounded in reality, which LKY very easily manipulates. *X*X*X*X*X*X*X*X*

On the surface, he seemed quite successful. He turned Singapore from a small seaport into a bustling metropolis, rife with skyscrapers and its own casino. World leaders seem to like him, most notably Margaret Thatcher, and many foreigners and millionaires wish to invest in Singapore.

But if you look deeper, and you find out what the true nature of LKY’s Singapore is…I’m sure most of your parents have told you how luxurious Singapore is, and how, if you go to another country, it would be much harder and much more expensive.

But all you have to do is do a Google search, look at our country’s statistics, and you will find out how delusional and ignorant your parents are.

Most people in Singapore are struggling to make ends meet. And it is reported that Singaporeans work the longest hours in the world. We are one of the richest countries in the world, but we have one of the highest income inequalities, highest poverty rates, and our government spends one of the lowest on healthcare and social security.

The money spent on the public is so low, it’s more representative of a third world country. And yet the amount of taxes is one of the highest in first world countries. And political leaders in Singapore earn more than quadruple the amount earned by political leaders in the United States. They are acquiring so much money — why aren’t they spending it on the people? What are they actually spending it on?

One time, an SDP member told me that once they got into power, they are going to take the key and open every cupboard, and search out all the information on the government spending to find out what those *********kers have been doing with all that money.

And whenever somebody wonders online if the government is pocketing the money for themselves, they get sued. Quite suspicious, isn’t it?

How LKY deemed what he considered as success was solely predicated upon measurable, concrete results: a rich country, the love of major powers, a positive public image. And his emphasis on results was transcendent onto how Singaporeans led their lives. Somebody who has the better house, the better results in an exam, the better degree — is deemed “more successful” than the other person.

Because of this emphasis on pure materialism, it sacrificed our happiness.

Because if someone is more concerned about money and status over what they’re actually doing and their life, no **** you would lead a depressing life.

I think the biggest flaw of LKY as a leader to our nation, is that he honestly thought that money and status equated to happiness. And his failure to understand how false that was really showed, leading us to be one of the richest countries in the world, and one of the most depressed.

Ultimately, how do you quantify a great leader?

It is by how he creates a place where people are able to live happily and prosper, based on their own unique attributes. And he hasn’t. So no matter how rich the country he made is, it doesn’t mean a thing.

His death was great for him too, seeing how he was struggling with an illness for several years and even declared that he wished he was dead. He should have asked his son to pull the plug or committed suicide by himself. But he didn’t. You know why?

Because if he did, his band of sycophants might despise him. And his oh-so-great reputation that he so desperately tried to uphold, might shatter. Because it would be deemed quite controversial for a leader to end his life with suicide.

And it is rather tragic, isn’t it, that he had to suffer the last few years with the atmosphere or materialism and the need for a positive image that he himself created.

So there you go: Lee Kuan Yew, an overrated, over-glorified person, a dictator, and exceptionally Machiavellian in nature. With his death and the upcoming elections next year, there is a high chance, that us citizens of Singapore [can] finally change things for the better.

Let’s all hope for change.

For good change, for every possible kind.

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To be fair, in Roy's case, the law of defamation is to blame. In defamation, once you have made out the basic elements (words hurt your reputation amongst right-thinking members of society, etc.) then the burden of proof is reversed and falls to the defendant to prove that what he said was either said in privileged circumstances or is/was true. It's like this in the commonwealth legal systems, even in the UK. It's like that to deter people from making malicious statements in a wanton manner...

At least someone here who knows a little about law, unlike the rest of the kids ;)
 
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