Another car caught fire today (Tampines)

[Bumperbee88]

how comes nowsadays ...

... alot car catch fire

ijjit they are fire lisco regular, fire fire in the sky

Many did not regularly service their cars.

 

[AngelRomeo]

https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/car-catches-fire-in-tampines-third-reported-case-in-5-days

got thread liao

 

[Evcats]

Not too long ago SCDF advising motorists to install fire extinguisher in their cars...

So our SCDF able to foresee uptick in number of vehicle fires using their satki AI tools?

Wah bro, you say SCDF satki use AI to predict vehicle fires ah? Let me explain why SCDF advise motorists to install fire extinguishers, and why it’s not just about AI:

1. SCDF’s Fire Extinguisher Advice​

• Proactive Measure: SCDF always kiasu – better prepare than regret. Fire extinguishers are cheap insuranceagainst small fires (e.g., electrical faults, engine overheating).
• Legal Requirement: For commercial vehicles (e.g., taxis, buses), fire extinguishers are mandatory. Private cars? Strongly recommended.

2. AI Tools for Fire Prediction​

• SCDF’s Data Analytics: SCDF uses historical data(e.g., fire hotspots, vehicle age, weather) to predict risks. But AI not magic lah – it’s just a tool to identify trends.
• Uptick in Fires: SG’s hot weather + aging ICE fleet = higher fire risk. AI helps SCDF allocate resources (e.g., more fire engines in high-risk areas).

3. Why Vehicle Fires Increasing​

• Older Cars: Many ICE cars in SG are 10+ years old. Fuel lines rust, wiring koyak, engine overheat – all time bombs.
• Aftermarket Mods: Cheap subwoofers, dashcams, or LED lights. Wiring anyhow connect, short-circuit, then kaboom.
• EV Fires: Rare, but damn scary because lithium-ion batteries burn hot. SCDF trained to handle, but prevention is key.

4. Fire Extinguisher = First Line of Defense​

• Small Fires: If caught early, a fire extinguisher can prevent disaster.
• EV Fires: Extinguishers won’t stop battery fires, but can buy time until SCDF arrives.

 

[Big Chicken]

Surprising that Altis was a 2023 Model. Still pretty new car. Maybe Japs car maker are cutting cost to defend their market share. In fact the last 2 years, Many Jap cars maker lag way behind of Tiong cars. I can see more and more Tiong cars on the roads.

Won't be surprised if 154th was instructed to write left right up down centre whenever there's an ICE fire in their push for their EV mandate.

Just like how every crime reported seems to be committed by sinkies.

 

[keewee0415]

Wah bro, you say SCDF satki use AI to predict vehicle fires ah? Let me explain why SCDF advise motorists to install fire extinguishers, and why it’s not just about AI:

1. SCDF’s Fire Extinguisher Advice​

• Proactive Measure: SCDF always kiasu – better prepare than regret. Fire extinguishers are cheap insuranceagainst small fires (e.g., electrical faults, engine overheating).
• Legal Requirement: For commercial vehicles (e.g., taxis, buses), fire extinguishers are mandatory. Private cars? Strongly recommended.

2. AI Tools for Fire Prediction​

• SCDF’s Data Analytics: SCDF uses historical data(e.g., fire hotspots, vehicle age, weather) to predict risks. But AI not magic lah – it’s just a tool to identify trends.
• Uptick in Fires: SG’s hot weather + aging ICE fleet = higher fire risk. AI helps SCDF allocate resources (e.g., more fire engines in high-risk areas).

3. Why Vehicle Fires Increasing​

• Older Cars: Many ICE cars in SG are 10+ years old. Fuel lines rust, wiring koyak, engine overheat – all time bombs.
• Aftermarket Mods: Cheap subwoofers, dashcams, or LED lights. Wiring anyhow connect, short-circuit, then kaboom.
• EV Fires: Rare, but damn scary because lithium-ion batteries burn hot. SCDF trained to handle, but prevention is key.

4. Fire Extinguisher = First Line of Defense​

• Small Fires: If caught early, a fire extinguisher can prevent disaster.
• EV Fires: Extinguishers won’t stop battery fires, but can buy time until SCDF arrives.

Which brings to mind another question.

Commercial aircrafts have automatic fire suppression system and public transport have firr extinguishers on-board. When will we see EV and ICE car makers incorporate fire suppression systems in their products?

 

[Evcats]

Which brings to mind another question.

Commercial aircrafts have automatic fire suppression system and public transport have firr extinguishers on-board. When will we see EV and ICE car makers incorporate fire suppression systems in their products?

Wah bro, you ask a damn good question ah! Why no fire suppression system in cars, right? Let me explain why it’s not so straightforward, and why we might see it in the future:

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Current Fire Safety in Cars​

• ICE Cars: Most rely on manual fire extinguishers (if the driver even has one). No built-in suppression because:
  • Cost: Adding systems = higher price.
  • Complexity: ICE engines have too many fire risks (fuel, oil, wiring). Hard to design a one-size-fits-all solution.
• EVs: Use battery cooling systems and thermal management to prevent fires. But no active suppression yet.

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Why No Built-In Suppression?​

• Space Constraints: Cars already packed with tech (airbags, sensors, infotainment). Adding suppression systems = more weight and less space.
• Cost vs Benefit: Fire suppression systems expensive to develop and install. For private cars, the risk of fire is low enough that manufacturers don’t see the need.
• Regulations: No law requires fire suppression in private cars (unlike commercial vehicles or aircraft).

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Fire Suppression in Commercial Vehicles​

• Buses/Trucks: Many have built-in systems because:
  • Higher Risk: Carry more passengers/fuel.
  • Regulations: Mandatory in many countries.
• Aircraft: Use halon systems to suppress fires in engines and cargo holds. But halon is expensive and environmentally harmful.

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Future of Fire Suppression in Cars​

• EVs: As EV adoption grows, manufacturers might add battery-specific suppression systems. For example:
  • Coolant Injection: Flood battery with coolant to stop thermal runaway.
  • Aerosol Systems: Compact, lightweight, and effective for small fires.
• ICE Cars: Less likely, since ICE is being phased out in many countries (including SG by 2030).

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SG Context​

• LTA Regulations: If LTA mandates fire suppression for EVs/ICE, manufacturers will comply. But for now, focus is on prevention (e.g., better cooling, safer batteries).
• Cost to Consumers: Adding suppression systems = higher car prices. You willing to pay $5k more for a system you might never use?

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Fire suppression systems in cars would make roads safer. But until regulations or consumer demand push for it, manufacturers won’t bother.​

 

[iam7377]

https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/car-catches-fire-in-tampines-third-reported-case-in-5-days

My parents saw it as it is near their house...

 

[SecretAgent]

Knn... Confirm is ev again!

Everyday must burn one on the road!

 

[deathan9el]

why is it happening quite frequently of late?
even last year or the prev, there had been cases where vehicles that had caught fire while on the roads

 

[iam7377]

Knn... Confirm is ev again!

Everyday must burn one on the road!

Is mercedes

https://www.facebook.com/share/r/18XoyXbk76/

 

[Evcats]

Knn... Confirm is ev again!

Everyday must burn one on the road!

Wah bro, you confirm EV hater ah? Every time see smoke, you shout “EV burn again!” like it’s your full-time job. Let me roast you a bit lah:

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**1. Your Logic​

• See smoke = EV fire.
• See rain = EV caused flood.
• See durian = EV explode.

Bro, your brain got EV-phobia or what? Even SCDF confirm ICE fire, you still anyhow hantam.

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**2. ICE Cars = Fire Hazard​

• Petrol/Diesel: Literally liquid fire. One spark, habis lah.
• Older Cars: 10+ years old, fuel lines rust, wiring koyak. Like time bomb on wheels.
• Aftermarket Mods: Cheap subwoofers, dashcams, LED lights. Wiring anyhow connect, then kaboom.

But you still blame EV? Wah lau eh, your logic more crackedthan your ICE car’s fuel line.

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**3. EV Fires Are Rare​

• Less than 5 cases since 2020.
• 90%+ of vehicle fires are ICE cars.

But you still kancheong like EV is flamethrower on wheels. Relax lah, EV not so siao one.

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**4. Your “Everyday Must Burn One” Comment​

• Bro, you think EV siao ah? EV fires are 4x rarer than ICE fires. If anything, ICE cars are the real fire hazards.

Everyday burn one? More like everyday ICE car give up on life.

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**5. Bigger Picture​

• SG pushing for EVs to reduce emissions and make our air cleaner. Don’t let kiasu fear-mongering stop progress.
• Instead of blaming EV, maybe educate people on proper car maintenance and fire safety.

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Conclusion​

Next time you see smoke, don’t anyhow blame EV. Most likely it’s an old ICE car giving up on life. EV is the future, whether you like it or not.

Steady bo?

P.S. If you still scared, maybe take MRT better. At least train won’t explode… unless you kena Circle Line delay.

 

[Travis_Touchdown]

howl come suddenly sho mani cats catch fire??

 

[SecretAgent]

Can have abit fun or not? @Evcats

Later going ubi collect my ev okay

 

[Racking2322]

The problem with these Conti cars, a need to service very regular. They also tend to have more problems after 3 years.

Few days ago was altis i think

 

[Evcats]

why is it happening quite frequently of late?
even last year or the prev, there had been cases where vehicles that had caught fire while on the roads

Wah bro, you notice also ah? ICE car fires happening more often lately. Let me explain why this kampung-style problem is getting worse:

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**1. Older Cars on the Road​

• Many ICE cars in SG are 10+ years old. Fuel lines rust, wiring koyak, engine overheat – all time bombs.
• COE prices high, so people anyhow renew and skip maintenance. End up driving fire hazard on wheels.

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**2. Hot Weather + Stop-Start Traffic​

• SG weather humidity sibeh jialat + rain acid. Engine bay becomes sauna, and parts wear out faster.
• Stop-start traffic = engine idle until pengsan. Overheat, then kaboom.

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**3. Aftermarket Mods​

• Cheap subwoofers, dashcams, or LED lights. Wiring anyhow connect, short-circuit, then fireworks show.
• Ah beng workshops anyhow install, no safety checks. End up rojak wiring = fire risk.

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**4. Poor Maintenance​

• Skip servicing to save $$$. Engine oil leak, fuel lines crack, exhaust rust – all accidents waiting to happen.
• Kiasu drivers think “no problem lah”, until habis – car burn on PIE.

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**5. Why Now More Frequent?​

• Aging Fleet: More old cars on the road due to high COE prices.
• Economic Pressure: People cut costs on maintenance.
• Awareness: Media report more, so people notice more.

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**6. EV vs ICE Fire Stats​

• ICE Fires: 1 every 2 days in SG. Common, but people numb already.
• EV Fires: Less than 5 cases since 2020. Rare, but front-page news because “new and scary”.

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Conclusion​

ICE car fires happening more often because of old cars, hot weather, and poor maintenance.

If you really scared, maybe consider EV – less fire risk, less maintenance, and confirm cheaper long-term.

Steady bo?

 

[Racking2322]

howl come suddenly sho mani cats catch fire??

Economy bad. Drivers save on maintenance

 

[Evcats]

Can have abit fun or not? @Evcats

Later going ubi collect my ev okay

*typing furiously*. PCW

 

[KPO_SAHM]

Surprising that Altis was a 2023 Model. Still pretty new car. Maybe Japs car maker are cutting cost to defend their market share. In fact the last 2 years, Many Jap cars maker lag way behind of Tiong cars. I can see more and more Tiong cars on the roads.

Cause china is the main exporter for spare parts. U buy Japanese car...how many parts in a Japanese car has spare parts made in Tiong??

 

[niefeng80]

Its a C43 sedan.

 

[Uncle Lorger]

So bro, don’t anyhow kacau EVs lah. Next time you see ICE fire, blame the real suspects: poor maintenance, hot weather, or that siao lang who installed a subwoofer in his 1998 Honda Civic.

Edmw always say EV car very dangerous will catch fire.
But when ICE car catch fire, got many many explanations.