Ask a Bicycle Question - Part 5

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erwinrommel said:
Erm.. initially i thought you meant you started recycling Aleoca bikes! :s13::s13:

Some things can be bought cheaply, but there are others that I won't. I buy helmets, bicycle frame that meet minimum safety requirement, etc.

Only when one has the confidence in your bike will you push hard on it.

If I pass an Aleoca bike to a somebody who is considering cycling and after cycling, he feels it sucks, so does cycling suck to him, or does the bicycle suck?

That's why I am always more than willing to lend my bicycle to others, including strangers who are pondering whether to pick up cycling. To date, I have lent my bicycle to at least 15 strangers to let them test ride and actually befriended a few of them. I have frequently mentioned in the forum that any potential newbies who are interested to pick up cycling can always drop by AMK and I will be willing to let them test ride.

Numerous friends also tested mine and I am proud to say quite a handful have picked up cycling as a hobby and they are now poisoning me with expensive accessories! :D
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How to know whether my aleoca helmet pass safety std? It says conform to en1078 is what?

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Although inferior to other popular makes, Aleoca brand still survive till today is because many still believe in spending within their budget.

I have witnessed many purchased more expensive and better bikes on credit, whereby even exceed twice or more than their monthly pay, isit worth it?

Anyway one should not be paying monthly installment just to enjoy cycling:s13:
 
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beast said:
Although inferior to other popular makes, Aleoca brand still survive till today is because many still believe in spending within their budget.

I have witnessed many purchased more expensive and better bikes on credit, whereby even exceed twice or more than their monthly pay, isit worth it?

Anyway one should not be paying monthly installment just to enjoy cycling:s13:
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The counter argument is that brands like Aleoca blur the lines of what a reasonable budget is for a reasonable performance and hence a reasonable cycling experience.

It plays the numbers game. When something is "cheaper", people don't feel the pinch so much - then never realising that spending more upfront could lead to a better experience, which translates to an overall better appreciation of the sport/activity and by extension an increase in their likelihood of repeating the activity.

Which is why you hardly see Aleoca bikes out at East Coast Park. Not that we don't - we just hardly see them, not even one out of ten bikes even. Perhaps then one wonders, just because people buy the Aleoca bikes, are people actually riding them, or leaving them at void decks to clutter and rust?

/Dan
 
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leinad said:
The counter argument is that brands like Aleoca blur the lines of what a reasonable budget is for a reasonable performance and hence a reasonable cycling experience.

It plays the numbers game. When something is "cheaper", people don't feel the pinch so much - then never realising that spending more upfront could lead to a better experience, which translates to an overall better appreciation of the sport/activity and by extension an increase in their likelihood of repeating the activity.

Which is why you hardly see Aleoca bikes out at East Coast Park. Not that we don't - we just hardly see them, not even one out of ten bikes even. Perhaps then one wonders, just because people buy the Aleoca bikes, are people actually riding them, or leaving them at void decks to clutter and rust?

/Dan
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Aleoca or even Urata has always been at the market bikes or commuter bikes level.

Which means anyhow lock or throw around also not scared. Just simple lock to do a simple deterrence.

Most ppl already realised that if one is gonna take cycling as hobby, eventually they will get pissed off by low quality bikes. The same for all other hobbies.
 
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Honestly, I enjoy cycling experience as a whole and I am really fortunate to inherit Aleoca from rarenick and the Aleoca has serves my objective and interest very well to date. I have also raise and open to the possibility of getting a higher specification foldie to feed my growing expectation on riding experience and challenge. Primarily budget will be the one of key consideration though have had mentioned I will still spend if I really need it more than just "want". In this perspective, Aleoca does fits to my objective and agenda and I am glad someone kind enough to offer me that kind of experience to me at zero cost. I am also grateful to some who shared their views and experience and also Smiling Devil for his patience and tolerance to my hesitation all these whiles.

On a lighter note, possible to find a fling if I ride a brompton or higher end foldie? Will that impress the girl? :o
 
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leinad said:
The counter argument is that brands like Aleoca blur the lines of what a reasonable budget is for a reasonable performance and hence a reasonable cycling experience.

It plays the numbers game. When something is "cheaper", people don't feel the pinch so much - then never realising that spending more upfront could lead to a better experience, which translates to an overall better appreciation of the sport/activity and by extension an increase in their likelihood of repeating the activity.

Which is why you hardly see Aleoca bikes out at East Coast Park. Not that we don't - we just hardly see them, not even one out of ten bikes even. Perhaps then one wonders, just because people buy the Aleoca bikes, are people actually riding them, or leaving them at void decks to clutter and rust?

/Dan
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I will ride on east coast. Can you spot me? :o
 
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Not being elitist la.. Just making an observation which I'm sure many have made.

Cryogenist said:
Aleoca or even Urata has always been at the market bikes or commuter bikes level.

Which means anyhow lock or throw around also not scared. Just simple lock to do a simple deterrence.

Most ppl already realised that if one is gonna take cycling as hobby, eventually they will get pissed off by low quality bikes. The same for all other hobbies.
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A friend of mine just bought a Polygon F5 second-hand (at my suggestion) and he was quite surprised at the huge difference from his old bike to his new one, so much so that he commented that the cheaper "market bikes" destroy the interests of cycling for many people. The problem is more an experiential one - that because they think cycling is at that level, and they do not get any opportunity to try something better, then they just leave it.

His wife doesn't get the fuss, but she thinks cycling is a chore because the bike feels heavy and is a lot of work to move. She refuses to try his Polygon, dismissing it to be just like the other bikes she's tried - all "market bike" category. She also doesn't get why bicycles are expensive, and thinks the $600 my friend paid for his F5 is a huge waste of money. Her comments are very indicative of quite a few people I've met, including my own parents and friends around who think that $300 is too much to pay for a bicycle.

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Honestly, I enjoy cycling experience as a whole and I am really fortunate to inherit Aleoca from rarenick and the Aleoca has serves my objective and interest very well to date. I have also raise and open to the possibility of getting a higher specification foldie to feed my growing expectation on riding experience and challenge. Primarily budget will be the one of key consideration though have had mentioned I will still spend if I really need it more than just "want". In this perspective, Aleoca does fits to my objective and agenda and I am glad someone kind enough to offer me that kind of experience to me at zero cost. I am also grateful to some who shared their views and experience and also Smiling Devil for his patience and tolerance to my hesitation all these whiles.

On a lighter note, possible to find a fling if I ride a brompton or higher end foldie? Will that impress the girl? :o
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I don't think we cycle to impress anyone. ;) I know for me it's to get wind in my hair and to enjoy the feeling of cruising along, even as I get some exercise.

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I will ride on east coast. Can you spot me? :o
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Haha. I will admit to looking at the bikes that pass me. :s13:

/Dan
 
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Broadwalk said:
Honestly, I enjoy cycling experience as a whole and I am really fortunate to inherit Aleoca from rarenick and the Aleoca has serves my objective and interest very well to date. I have also raise and open to the possibility of getting a higher specification foldie to feed my growing expectation on riding experience and challenge. Primarily budget will be the one of key consideration though have had mentioned I will still spend if I really need it more than just "want". In this perspective, Aleoca does fits to my objective and agenda and I am glad someone kind enough to offer me that kind of experience to me at zero cost. I am also grateful to some who shared their views and experience and also Smiling Devil for his patience and tolerance to my hesitation all these whiles.

On a lighter note, possible to find a fling if I ride a brompton or higher end foldie? Will that impress the girl? :o
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If a girl is impress by what is your ride, dump her. :s13:
 
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Broadwalk said:
On a lighter note, possible to find a fling if I ride a brompton or higher end foldie? Will that impress the girl? :o
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No, Bromptons don't really impress anybody. Get a bike with a Rohloff hub and it's a natural opener. :s22:
 
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IronMac said:
No, Bromptons don't really impress anybody. Get a bike with a Rohloff hub and it's a natural opener. :s22:
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Haha. I think only Moulton bikes will make me turn my head to look at it because of its more unique design.

Too many bromptons around.
 
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