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Hmm okay la all bikes

And bike for tri racing depends on distance, if you're doing half Im and above might wanna consider a tri bike
Like trek speed concept 2 series
 

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i guess so.. i was told the 8avio is an endurance road bike... which should be okay forme to start.. up to 1/2 im.. i think my target is for now..
 

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I think you have already made your choice, so many bikes in the market nowadays, I google bottechia site but only have vague descrption


Trek speed concept is ex for alu bike , but the features are quite good
The more interesting bike for endurance series now that I see is the cervelo r2
 

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anyone has any opion on the bottecchia 8avio? thinking of getting one.. not sure how much it will set me back...

want to use it for some training for tri races... amature of course :)

Hi, if doing local tri, you might be better off with a road bike or aero road bike with extension bars fitted. This is because local races usually have a lot of turns and you can't really properly utilize the aero position of tri bikes that much.

However, if you intend to do overseas tri which has longer stretches of straight roads, can consider getting a tri bike.

Also, please get a tri bike fit first before buying one. This is because 3 people of the roughly the same height can get 3 different bike sizes due to the way they like to position themselves on the bike. E.g. 3 people of heights from 1.83 to 1.88 can find themselves on bike sizes ranging from 54, 56 and 58.
 

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Hi, if doing local tri, you might be better off with a road bike or aero road bike with extension bars fitted. This is because local races usually have a lot of turns and you can't really properly utilize the aero position of tri bikes that much.

However, if you intend to do overseas tri which has longer stretches of straight roads, can consider getting a tri bike.

Also, please get a tri bike fit first before buying one. This is because 3 people of the roughly the same height can get 3 different bike sizes due to the way they like to position themselves on the bike. E.g. 3 people of heights from 1.83 to 1.88 can find themselves on bike sizes ranging from 54, 56 and 58.

hm..then the choice i see is sort of okay.. i guess..
oversea.. not so soon..

i have to try the bike of course.. but as i am quite new to this.. i am not very sure if i will "evolve" and then the position will be change over tiime.. any incite on that?
 

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hm..then the choice i see is sort of okay.. i guess..
oversea.. not so soon..

i have to try the bike of course.. but as i am quite new to this.. i am not very sure if i will "evolve" and then the position will be change over tiime.. any incite on that?

Pple buy liao ride for awhile usually will go for refit
 

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Does anybody know the difference between 105 5800 and Ultegra 6800? I'm not sure if I should spend extra $400 for ultegra or keep the spare change...
 

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hm..then the choice i see is sort of okay.. i guess..
oversea.. not so soon..

i have to try the bike of course.. but as i am quite new to this.. i am not very sure if i will "evolve" and then the position will be change over tiime.. any incite on that?

Usually the fitter you and your core muscles get, the lower in front you will go and you'll get yourself into a more aggressive position.

Can't really feel much of a bike while trying it, other than really really obvious levels of comfort difference. Unless the bike has been adjusted to fit you and you get to try the bike for a much longer distance than just the carpark jaunt to get a proper feel of how the bike behaves and performs.

Main thing before laying down your hard-earned cash for a bike is to make sure that the bike fits you and you will be fitted on the bike.

Some bikes geometry is low and long, some are taller and not as long, so different body types will suit different bikes.

Ask about bike warranty. Some do a few years, some lifetime. The next question to ask and find out is, how good is the brand and shop at honouring warranties when something does go wrong due to manufacturer fault? Does the shop have a good supply of spare parts when something breaks, so that you don't have to wait so long for your bike to be road-ready again?

Hope this helps. :)
 

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Pple buy liao ride for awhile usually will go for refit

Come back for refit if and when you feel you need to. :D Sorry didn't recognise you the other day, was dosed up on cold meds. :s22:
 

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Does anybody know the difference between 105 5800 and Ultegra 6800? I'm not sure if I should spend extra $400 for ultegra or keep the spare change...

Ultegra is lighter and shifts faster. Resale value also better than 105, since the next upgrade step after someone is done with 105 will not be another 105. =:p
 

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imho, i rather stay with 105 and use the spare change for a better wheelset
 

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imho, i rather stay with 105 and use the spare change for a better wheelset

Hmmm....that's what I also think leh.

Say if I won't be reselling the bike, will replace 105 with 105 di2 if it ever comes out, it actually make sense to stick with 105 right?

I'm just kinda interested to know if there's any noticeable difference (have trouble switching gears, much more easily slip gear when changing gear under load, need more maintenance) between them. If not paying $400 for few hundred grams and a slightly more responsive shifting is not very worth it leh..
 

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Hmm, are you upgrading your current bike or buying a new bike ?? If youre upgrading from 10 speed, the old freehub wont fit since 11speed is abit wider 1.85mm, need to change freehub and redish current wheelset if changing.

105 Di2 wont be out at least for another 2-3 years at least.

I ridden Ultegra 6800 (just the shifters and front D for about 1.3K km since i got my bike in late sept) The biggest draw for me is that the big shifting pedal is made out of carbon fibre. Its quite lame to put carbon fibre there since it saves a few gram, but for me, its much better because the metal paddles will corrode if there is a scratch that penetrates the protective layer.

FWB did some testing and the ultegra was the stiffest of all the cranks tested.

I have not experienced chain drop, or trouble while shifting under load, I do not like the downshift though, since the response is quite muted instead of the loud sound i expect to hear lol.

All the shifting is roughly the same quality, just that ultegra shifts abit smoother.
 

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Come back for refit if and when you feel you need to. :D Sorry didn't recognise you the other day, was dosed up on cold meds. :s22:

haha its ok. I'm still waiting for a good time to send my bike in for servicing n change ceramic bb also lols.
 

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Wondering if it is a good idea to use 2 sets of missing links on a chain. The chain on my MTB broke the other day and upon inspecting the broken chain, I can actually replaced the pulled link with a missing link. But I am already having a set of missing link on another part of the chain. Not sure if it is a good idea to add another set of missing link on the chain.:s22:
 

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haha its ok. I'm still waiting for a good time to send my bike in for servicing n change ceramic bb also lols.

Haha ok. If you ride a lot, would recommend angular bearing BB. Ceramic doesn't last as long. Am currently waiting for Gokiso to (hopefully?) produce BB. Their standard hubs already much smoother than most other brand's ceramic equipped hubs. :eek:
 

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Wondering if it is a good idea to use 2 sets of missing links on a chain. The chain on my MTB broke the other day and upon inspecting the broken chain, I can actually replaced the pulled link with a missing link. But I am already having a set of missing link on another part of the chain. Not sure if it is a good idea to add another set of missing link on the chain.:s22:

Don't think so I think change the chain better
 

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Haha ok. If you ride a lot, would recommend angular bearing BB. Ceramic doesn't last as long. Am currently waiting for Gokiso to (hopefully?) produce BB. Their standard hubs already much smoother than most other brand's ceramic equipped hubs. :eek:

Gokiso damn ex leh.

Ok la jan after i come back from tw then send in to service :o
 
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