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1) Possible. Because sometimes it is requested by their client for the consultant to do a reference check prior to any interviews.

However, this also usually means they have already shown you a job description of the role which their client is offering



No specific industry, but best to avoid manufacturing, semiconductor.

You can possible try either freight forwarding or third party logistics companies

How would I know the consultant is not trying to fish my references that I provide? No, I wasn't shown the job description, only told verbally roughly through the phone, neither did I meet the consultant before.
 

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1. How does one connect to a headhunter? Through places like LinkedIn? Or through networking? Or are there any agencies that people register their presence?

2. Does headhunting occur primarily in finance or management? I don't hear brilliant people in STEM fields getting headhunted

1) post your cv on job portals
2) Create a professional linkedin profile
3) Always keep a lookout of available jobs on job portals. You can set an alert where jobs which are relevant to your experience are automatically sent to your email

and no. HH does not primarily only happen in finance.

I have colleagues who work in construction industry, supply chain industry, technology, HR, FMCG, Oil and Gas, etc
 

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How would I know the consultant is not trying to fish my references that I provide? No, I wasn't shown the job description, only told verbally roughly through the phone, neither did I meet the consultant before.

The easiest way to guage how much the consultant knows about the job is by asking simple questions such as

1) New headcount or replacement role?
2) How long as this role been open in the market?
3) How much is the salary on offer potentially?
4) Why do they think you are a good fit?
5) They can provide some details about the manager (male/female, age, background, etc)

If you insist, then just say that you will only provide the references when there is an actual job offer potentially (which means after the interview)
 

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If i am in my current job for nearly 15 years since graduation and has no other past work referees and it would be a long fetch to rely on past uni professor as reference since did not maintain contact, what am I supposed to do if I cannot list any relevant work related referee? Unless I get referee from within existing company which i hope not to?
 

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If i am in my current job for nearly 15 years since graduation and has no other past work referees and it would be a long fetch to rely on past uni professor as reference since did not maintain contact, what am I supposed to do if I cannot list any relevant work related referee? Unless I get referee from within existing company which i hope not to?

You can ask your past managers who have since left the company?

Unless you mean in the past 15 years you have only been reporting to 1 manager.
 

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You can ask your past managers who have since left the company?

Unless you mean in the past 15 years you have only been reporting to 1 manager.

haha ya spot on! been reporting to the same manager! lack of advancement opportunity is also "affecting" my boss too :p
 

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haha ya spot on! been reporting to the same manager! lack of advancement opportunity is also "affecting" my boss too :p

If you have been reporting to the same manager for 15 years, then i take it that your relationship with him is extremely good.

Usually what will happen is you will highlight to him that you are looking potentially to move on due to career advancement, and that you can ask him to be your referee if required.

This only works if you have an extremely good relationship with him.
 

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If you have been reporting to the same manager for 15 years, then i take it that your relationship with him is extremely good.

Usually what will happen is you will highlight to him that you are looking potentially to move on due to career advancement, and that you can ask him to be your referee if required.

This only works if you have an extremely good relationship with him.

I can ask but this will be a last resort, so what happen if I can't provide, does that mean i will have to resign myself to stay in the same company for the rest of my working life? No company or headhunter will consider me without a work related referee despite the experiences?
 

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I can ask but this will be a last resort, so what happen if I can't provide, does that mean i will have to resign myself to stay in the same company for the rest of my working life? No company or headhunter will consider me without a work related referee despite the experiences?

if you don't have a referee, they will engage a third party company to verify everything that you say is true. (once you have resigned from the company)

They will also insert the clause that your employment contract with your new company will be voided if you fail the employment check.
 

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if you don't have a referee, they will engage a third party company to verify everything that you say is true. (once you have resigned from the company)

They will also insert the clause that your employment contract with your new company will be voided if you fail the employment check.

ok i see, thank you... will have less worries now and can go out looking for other opportunities.
 

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Hi BRO HH,

I have accepted the verbal offer of a company last tuesday. And the HH told me they are getting the head in london to sign off the offer and also draft the contract before they can send to me. But its been 4-5 working days, are they TRYNA PLAY ME OUT? WHY DOES IT TAKE SO LONG TO GET THE HEAD TO SIGN OFF THE OFFER AND DRAFT A CONTRACT WHICH I SUPPOSE THEY WILL HAVE A TEMPLATE FOR? IS IT NORMAL ?
 

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The easiest way to guage how much the consultant knows about the job is by asking simple questions such as

1) New headcount or replacement role?
2) How long as this role been open in the market?
3) How much is the salary on offer potentially?
4) Why do they think you are a good fit?
5) They can provide some details about the manager (male/female, age, background, etc)

If you insist, then just say that you will only provide the references when there is an actual job offer potentially (which means after the interview)

Thanks HH. Learn something new everyday. :)
 

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No specific industry, but best to avoid manufacturing, semiconductor.

You can possible try either freight forwarding or third party logistics companies

Any specific reason as to why to avoid manufacturing and semiconductor industries? Are they not doing well these days? I was thinking of the oil and gas as well as shipping industries, what's your opinion on them?
 

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The easiest way to guage how much the consultant knows about the job is by asking simple questions such as
1) New headcount or replacement role?
2) How long as this role been open in the market?
3) How much is the salary on offer potentially?

4) Why do they think you are a good fit?
5) They can provide some details about the manager (male/female, age, background, etc)

I used to ask these question but most of the HH will reply that they do not have any of these info and the company nvr share these details with them...
 

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I used to ask these question but most of the HH will reply that they do not have any of these info and the company nvr share these details with them...

Well the hh you met are obviously either not experienced enough or are not given the role by the company to work on

These are standard questions which the hr will tell the hh

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does a contractual 16 month remuneration package give one better bargaining power for base pay in his/her next job?

as compared to someone with 4 month variable bonus?
 

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Highly dependent on which company you work in.

Also determines what type of recruitment business model they have because different companies have different models.

Sales targets are not too bad if you are hardworking

what recruitment consultancies will you recommend for a person wanting to switch to a career in recruitment?

if a person is not extrovert, will he/she survive in this business?
 

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Hi HH! I understand that you mentioned not to ask questions about your job but I'm asking on behalf of a friend.. hope these questions are okay for you..

1. Starting as a recruitment consultant, what's the normal pay range for an entry level position?

2. How often does an entry level RC get commission?

3. For months that you do not get any commission, are there a lot of pressures from the bosses?

4. Progressionwise after being a RC, if they would go internally in-house, would they need to get a HR dip/cert?

5. Difference between RC and HH, aside from the pay grade of candidates that you are looking to hire?

Sorry for the numerous questions!
 
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