Australia PR

[perosoka]

yea heard that before, but its like, no employer will offer a job to a potential 'PR/TR reject' right.. haa plus, i didn't get my degree in AU. Hence, i thought just get the PR first, after that there's still time to seek employment. After all, doesn't mean once I get PR have to move there immediately

I heard that they want only accountancy degree holders that were educated in Australia? Will a CPA AU help to overcome that deficiency?

 

[alvina87]

I heard that they want only accountancy degree holders that were educated in Australia? Will a CPA AU help to overcome that deficiency?

yes, i was told by the immigration 'expert' that CPAA is the accrediting body. there are 2 other bodies but not sure what.. but if u're accepted into the CPAA programme means they recognise ur degree as an AU equivalent.

 

[perosoka]

yes, i was told by the immigration 'expert' that CPAA is the accrediting body. there are 2 other bodies but not sure what.. but if u're accepted into the CPAA programme means they recognise ur degree as an AU equivalent.

nice.. my wife is a cpa sg.. i'll ask her to go this route..

 

[plustwo]

umm. i've been reading this thread for a long time but havent had the time to post. i'm really certain i'll be migrating to aus once i'm done with my degree but its a tough choice where i should be doing it.

of course, the best way would be to take my first degree in aus while concurrently working part time, so i can meet the mandantory 2 years of studies + 2 years of working experience (not sure if part time is considered). this would mean an instant securing of pr upon graduation. however, i'm not very confident of the recognition of aus degrees in my chosen field(s) -> accountancy/law (not planning to work as an accountant, the acc part is simply for an edge over other biz deg holders). anyone can provide more info on this?

at home, i'm actually looking at doing a ddp in accountancy & law at nus (assuming that i can pull off the interview and test). however, i believe these two degrees don't have given accreditations with the relevant aus body right? means i have to take extra exams to get myself certified? in addition, this would mean i will have trouble securing the pr since i missed out on the 2 years studies? im pretty sure i dont want to take my masters/even phd in aus..

any advice?

 

[alvina87]

once u become a fully member of CPA aust.

can try to search for australian jobs thru the CPA aust network.

there is an office in singapore. can try asking.

like this easier to secure an australian job

haa. but i'm still on my first 2 papers and already struggling.. exams in may but i havent really started mugging. but i've sorta memorized the MCQs on the CPAA online learning.

would it be enuff??

 

[alvina87]

umm. i've been reading this thread for a long time but havent had the time to post. i'm really certain i'll be migrating to aus once i'm done with my degree but its a tough choice where i should be doing it.

of course, the best way would be to take my first degree in aus while concurrently working part time, so i can meet the mandantory 2 years of studies + 2 years of working experience (not sure if part time is considered). this would mean an instant securing of pr upon graduation. however, i'm not very confident of the recognition of aus degrees in my chosen field(s) -> accountancy/law (not planning to work as an accountant, the acc part is simply for an edge over other biz deg holders). anyone can provide more info on this?

at home, i'm actually looking at doing a ddp in accountancy & law at nus (assuming that i can pull off the interview and test). however, i believe these two degrees don't have given accreditations with the relevant aus body right? means i have to take extra exams to get myself certified? in addition, this would mean i will have trouble securing the pr since i missed out on the 2 years studies? im pretty sure i dont want to take my masters/even phd in aus..

any advice?

i was told by the immigration 'expert' that a AU bachelor's degree would add about 10 points or so. We need about 120 pts.. hence u can see that it is negligible, considering the cost of an AU degree for an international student.

and yes, he did say that you must have a professional body like CPA Australia to certify/accredit your professional status.

 

[plustwo]

i was told by the immigration 'expert' that a AU bachelor's degree would add about 10 points or so. We need about 120 pts.. hence u can see that it is negligible, considering the cost of an AU degree for an international student.

and yes, he did say that you must have a professional body like CPA Australia to certify/accredit your professional status.

but isn't there a need to chalk up time spent in aus?

 

[villan]

umm. i've been reading this thread for a long time but havent had the time to post. i'm really certain i'll be migrating to aus once i'm done with my degree but its a tough choice where i should be doing it.

of course, the best way would be to take my first degree in aus while concurrently working part time, so i can meet the mandantory 2 years of studies + 2 years of working experience (not sure if part time is considered). this would mean an instant securing of pr upon graduation. however, i'm not very confident of the recognition of aus degrees in my chosen field(s) -> accountancy/law (not planning to work as an accountant, the acc part is simply for an edge over other biz deg holders). anyone can provide more info on this?

at home, i'm actually looking at doing a ddp in accountancy & law at nus (assuming that i can pull off the interview and test). however, i believe these two degrees don't have given accreditations with the relevant aus body right? means i have to take extra exams to get myself certified? in addition, this would mean i will have trouble securing the pr since i missed out on the 2 years studies? im pretty sure i dont want to take my masters/even phd in aus..

any advice?

firstly, what kind of part-time job are you talking about? Casual jobs like waitering?

there is no such thing as instant securing of pr upon graduation. you can only apply for pr upon graduation and the wait is between 6mths to a yr.

by the way they are revising the pr system....will be out in july if i am not wrong.

 

[villan]

i was told by the immigration 'expert' that a AU bachelor's degree would add about 10 points or so. We need about 120 pts.. hence u can see that it is negligible, considering the cost of an AU degree for an international student.

and yes, he did say that you must have a professional body like CPA Australia to certify/accredit your professional status.

it may seem negligible, but it certainly makes a difference.

many international students fail to hit the 120pts requirement...

 

[villan]

but isn't there a need to chalk up time spent in aus?

yes..for onshore visa, minimum 2yrs is required

 

[plustwo]

yes..for onshore visa, minimum 2yrs is required

sorry, noob here. what does the onshore in onshore visa mean?

and if theres a need to chalk up time, then studying in aus would have extra benefits?

 

[Inix]

Well, there are differences in both sg and aust's healthcare systems.

For now, I'm young, rarely fall sick and have never needed to stay in a hospital/ operation (touchwood). Therefore, I would prefer the Singaporean system, where no medical levy is required and visiting clinics/collecting med are cheaper and more convenient.

Of course, as I get older and more "fragile", the Australian healthcare is more suitable for me. I will be making lesser (hence paying less levy) and using healthcare more.

All in all, it's hard to use my simple example to justify which healthcare is better, as accidents do happen.

deathcab - just a gentle advice, being smart is good, but showing off your scores the way you did presents yourself as someone who is narrow-minded, studies well but have bad comm skilled. I know of someone with a double full scholarship (Bac & Masters) and a perfect GPA but nv once mentioned it to friends becos (he/she) is being humble. That is a virtue, not to be forgotten.

Words on a forum are merely expressionless words. They can be easily misinterpreted. Ease up guys.

The Australian system is more equitable. In any sense, it ensures that no matter if you are poor or rich, you have access (to different varying degree) to healthcare.

The Singaporean system is by far cheaper (if you are healthy). Properly insured (when healthy), and well educated Singaporeans will generally be better off as cost of insurance in far lower in this country than in Australia. Quality of care in Public Hospitals is pretty good even for subsidised patient, but thats all.

There are flaws to both. Like heavy taxation on Australian system. Most Singaporeans have no idea how painful this can get, and no CPF is not considered a tax. SG's main flaw is the fact that if one is not able to be covered by insurance, you're pretty much in deep ****. Despite the fact that Medishield is owned by CPF, and thus should be more sympathetic, the fact is, they are not.

I'm one of those who fall in between the gaps. I'm covered by Medishield (barely), but excluded for my liver under Incomeshield. I paid nothing during my recent visit to the Hospital (after insurance), but thats because I'm not suffering from Ailments pertaining to my liver. But if it is, I would be really deep ****!

Than the argument against universal healthcare is that it is wasteful. But my argument is this. If humans arn't worth saving, than what are we? Just numbers?

 

[plustwo]

firstly, what kind of part-time job are you talking about? Casual jobs like waitering?

there is no such thing as instant securing of pr upon graduation. you can only apply for pr upon graduation and the wait is between 6mths to a yr.

by the way they are revising the pr system....will be out in july if i am not wrong.

no idea. thought just came to my mind. maybe interning in local companies? if not, how do people manage to work in aus after they graduate, if the study visa expires and no one else wants to hire someone on a temp visa?

 

[alvina87]

but isn't there a need to chalk up time spent in aus?

That's not what i heard.. a 2 yr study stint will add about 10 points to your application. But unless you were there on study or posted there to work by your sg employer, i doubt anyone can chalk up that meaningful amount of time haha

But under the skilled migration programme, we still got fairly good chance.. anyway, if AU doesn't work out, there's always NZ

 

[villan]

no idea. thought just came to my mind. maybe interning in local companies? if not, how do people manage to work in aus after they graduate, if the study visa expires and no one else wants to hire someone on a temp visa?

interning is virtually impossible as such positions are only open to citizens and PRs.

it is almost impossible to land a job without PR.

so u need to apply for PR after graduation. after you are granted PR, then u can start looking for jobs.

by the way u cant leave the country while waiting for your PR..

 

[plustwo]

interning is virtually impossible as such positions are only open to citizens and PRs.

it is almost impossible to land a job without PR.

so u need to apply for PR after graduation. after you are granted PR, then u can start looking for jobs.

by the way u cant leave the country while waiting for your PR..

doesnt your study visa expire once you complete your studies? how to apply for pr if no working experience?

 

[plustwo]

if u are doing a degree at local uni, after finish it , can try to take masters over there?

im not sure if i wanna take a masters there..

 

[yodatan]

interning is virtually impossible as such positions are only open to citizens and PRs.

it is almost impossible to land a job without PR.

so u need to apply for PR after graduation. after you are granted PR, then u can start looking for jobs.

by the way u cant leave the country while waiting for your PR..

is it possible to graduate from a uni in australia, return to singapore and work a few years and then try to return to australia to find a job? anyone taken this path?

i've also heard of people who had good grades and managed to find jobs in australia just before graduating from australian unis...possible also rite?

 

[friendlyguy]

That's not what i heard.. a 2 yr study stint will add about 10 points to your application. But unless you were there on study or posted there to work by your sg employer, i doubt anyone can chalk up that meaningful amount of time haha

But under the skilled migration programme, we still got fairly good chance.. anyway, if AU doesn't work out, there's always NZ

Sg better than NZ right? The exchange rate is quite same and now sgd better than NZ, living cost there more expensive than sg especially food and acommodation, far from family, tax is more there, the income is same, why do u want to go NZ? irrational right? Moreover, in context of financial expertise, business life, singapore is more international and globalise and strengthen our brand to international exposure.

 

[Inix]

Sg better than NZ right? The exchange rate is quite same and now sgd better than NZ, living cost there more expensive than sg especially food and acommodation, far from family, tax is more there, the income is same, why do u want to go NZ? irrational right? Moreover, in context of financial expertise, business life, singapore is more international and globalise and strengthen our brand to international exposure.

NZ and AU offers different things. AU is more cosmopolitian. More City in any means (although the great wildlife is just at your doorstep), and generally more expensive.

NZ is slower as compared to AU, good quality of life overall, and the NZ's natural offerings is honestly quite hard to beat. Both arn't too far apart, but AU is generally better for people who started in SG as the pace isn't that much different.

But I love NZ nevertheless. The greenery is just impossible to beat!