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[alt2015]

buy at ask on the platform. u can try a lower price if subscribing to wholesale.

Thanks ! meaning only the wholesale (ie 250K per lot), can request for quote.
Bond express very limited. The list is already so short, and many in the list do not have a "ask" volume.

 

[0218crawford]

Thanks ! meaning only the wholesale (ie 250K per lot), can request for quote.
Bond express very limited. The list is already so short, and many in the list do not have a "ask" volume.

Yes. Some of them no stock. Slowly build the portfolio. Bond is a very long term game

 

[0218crawford]

Just out only.

50 years Singapore Govt Bond


NEW ISSUE: GREEN SGS (INFRASTRUCTURE)–
– INITIAL PRICE GUIDANCE 3.15% area**

min SGD200K instead of the usual 250K.

I will prob be long gone before the bond matures.

 

[alt2015]

Just out only.

50 years Singapore Govt Bond


NEW ISSUE: GREEN SGS (INFRASTRUCTURE)–
– INITIAL PRICE GUIDANCE 3.15% area**

min SGD200K instead of the usual 250K.

I will prob be long gone before the bond matures.

buy in your kids' name

 

[sohguanh]

Just out only.

50 years Singapore Govt Bond


NEW ISSUE: GREEN SGS (INFRASTRUCTURE)–
– INITIAL PRICE GUIDANCE 3.15% area**

min SGD200K instead of the usual 250K.

I will prob be long gone before the bond matures.

Haha so will you be getting? If yes hold to maturity? Or will sell half way or quarter way through ?

 

[0218crawford]

Haha so will you be getting? If yes hold to maturity? Or will sell half way or quarter way through ?

dont think so. too long liao.

 

[Jov1623]

Just out only.

50 years Singapore Govt Bond


NEW ISSUE: GREEN SGS (INFRASTRUCTURE)–
– INITIAL PRICE GUIDANCE 3.15% area**

min SGD200K instead of the usual 250K.

I will prob be long gone before the bond matures.

Who will buy ?

 

[dude123]

3.15% for 50yrs? Topup cpf better.

 

[chatbot]

Hello,

For buying bond with the minimum amount (status is not AI), is fundsupermart the best option we have in Singapore?
FMS fee: Which means, you'll pay 0.35% when buying and selling. And 0.2% platform fee.

POEMS is cheaper. It only has custody fee of 0.05% per year. Why is that? Is it because it lacks of selection?

No one said anything about buying the corporate bonds in IBKR, Moomoo or Tiger app. I am guessing that is not possible.

In short: FSM is the most effective way to buy bond? Is this right assumption?

 

[0218crawford]

Hello,

For buying bond with the minimum amount (status is not AI), is fundsupermart the best option we have in Singapore?
FMS fee: Which means, you'll pay 0.35% when buying and selling. And 0.2% platform fee.

POEMS is cheaper. It only has custody fee of 0.05% per year. Why is that? Is it because it lacks of selection?

No one said anything about buying the corporate bonds in IBKR, Moomoo or Tiger app. I am guessing that is not possible.

In short: FSM is the most effective way to buy bond? Is this right assumption?

For POEMS, just call their bond desk if u buying the wholesale bond as a non AI.
FSM is easy to transact yourself when it comes to buying and selling. bid ask and everything is online. but fees high. POEMS got to call them to sell.
The IPO bond offerings are the same. No custody fee if held in CDP.

 

[chatbot]

For POEMS, just call their bond desk if u buying the wholesale bond as a non AI.
FSM is easy to transact yourself when it comes to buying and selling. bid ask and everything is online. but fees high. POEMS got to call them to sell.
The IPO bond offerings are the same. No custody fee if held in CDP.

FSM have to pay platform fee 0.2% p.a. right? POEMS doesn't have this.

For either POEMS or FSM, can share tips & tricks how to get the best exchange rate for USD? I read somewhere about combining IBKR and DBS multi-currencies account.

Let's say have that USD in DBS, how do I transfer that to FSM or POEMS?

 

[0218crawford]

FSM have to pay platform fee 0.2% p.a. right? POEMS doesn't have this.

For either POEMS or FSM, can share tips & tricks how to get the best exchange rate for USD? I read somewhere about combining IBKR and DBS multi-currencies account.

Let's say have that USD in DBS, how do I transfer that to FSM or POEMS?

No idea boss. So far my wholesale trade all SGD.

 

[chatbot]

No idea boss. So far my wholesale trade all SGD.

best! no need to worry on exchange risk.

 

[0218crawford]

FSM has been onboarding British Pound Bonds in recent weeks on their Bond Express platform.

Started with HSBC, then Volkswagen
today Glaxo Smith Kline

All solid credit with solid yields but denominated in GBP.

Very tempting but no confidence in the GBP (downward trend against SGD for the longest time) unless staying in UK next time.

Anyone got different view on GBP/SGD ?

 

[henrylbh]

Was never interested in bond investing. The first one I invested was hyflux which was a flop due to greed

Despite that, I placed my bet on MCB 2020 at subscription price and today bought MCB 2021 at 96c. Wish me luck that SIA fly above $4.84 or stays around today's price of 5.17 on conversion date and thereafter But I am ever ready that they redeemed before conversion with return of 4% increasing to 6%, compounded half yearly, nearer conversion date. Conversion date is Dec 2030 about 7.5 years to go.

 

[chatbot]

to all bond gurus

is it cheaper to buy bonds from your bank?
I asked my RM for the fee and her response was no fee. I only need to pay the price of the bond. You can only buy wholesale though.

Does it mean the bank earns only on the price difference of the bond they’re selling to me?

 

[0218crawford]

to all bond gurus

is it cheaper to buy bonds from your bank?
I asked my RM for the fee and her response was no fee. I only need to pay the price of the bond. You can only buy wholesale though.

Does it mean the bank earns only on the price difference of the bond they’re selling to me?

i suppose its like buying things from online sellers that says "no delivery fee". their quoted price most likely included their fair share liaoz.

 

[chatbot]

yeah likely so. they must earn somewhere

 

[0218crawford]

NEW BOND ISSUE: HOUSING DEVELOPMENT BOARD HDB 7 YEAR SENIOR

- COUPON: 3.995% (THE NUMBER)
- EXPECTED ISSUE RATING: AAA(Fitch)
- SIZE: SGD BENCHMARK
- INVESTMENT SIZE: S$250,000

Today Another HDB Bond lai lo.

 

[DevilPlate]

NEW BOND ISSUE: HOUSING DEVELOPMENT BOARD HDB 7 YEAR SENIOR

- COUPON: 3.995% (THE NUMBER)
- EXPECTED ISSUE RATING: AAA(Fitch)
- SIZE: SGD BENCHMARK
- INVESTMENT SIZE: S$250,000

Today Another HDB Bond lai lo.

Looks attractive as upcoming SGS 10yr bond likely to be around 3.5% only.

Anyone subscribing?


*Anyway subscription already closed at 2.30pm lol