BYD sealion 7

[Bam25th]

I guess you have not seen the new Model Y. Go take a look and you may change your mind.

Tesla will forever be inferior to BYD unless they upgrade their battery.

Tesla battery requires 20% to 80% charging on a regular basis, so their effective range is only 60% of their max range.

On the other hand, BYD’s blade battery gives the full 100% range. In fact, they recommend charging to 100% everytime

 

[lowveld]

Tesla will forever be inferior to BYD unless they upgrade their battery.

Tesla battery requires 20% to 80% charging on a regular basis, so their effective range is only 60% of their max range.

On the other hand, BYD’s blade battery gives the full 100% range. In fact, they recommend charging to 100% everytime

Tesla is pathetic

 

[Botakkid]

211k buy BYD, I rather buy Mercs CLA mild hybrid also 211k, at least on the road people can see me driving Mercs.. got hear before "AE86再快，也追不上奔驰车上的夏树"?

 

[shawnsterz]

BYD software feels like those old Android OS, over time will slow down. Go showroom and try. The wallpaper very tacky.

 

[HMAN]

Tesla will forever be inferior to BYD unless they upgrade their battery.

Tesla battery requires 20% to 80% charging on a regular basis, so their effective range is only 60% of their max range.

On the other hand, BYD’s blade battery gives the full 100% range. In fact, they recommend charging to 100% everytime

BYD battery technology is ok, not the greatest.

BYD mostly using LFP battery( lower power density) in their product lineup including the premium models, as a result , it is Hippo heavier than competitors, but LFP battery terminals are designed to take more frequent beating with full charge.

Others are using NCM battery with higher power density and higher discharge rate to support higher power motor drive without the extra battery weight.

Tesla software and autonomous driving technology is at least a generation ahead.

BYD apparently is perceived more value for money than Tesla.

 

[koster]

211k buy BYD, I rather buy Mercs CLA mild hybrid also 211k, at least on the road people can see me driving Mercs.. got hear before "AE86再快，也追不上奔驰车上的夏树"?

CLA was only 188k end last year but 1000 units of sealion were sold within the same month.

 

[koster]

BYD battery technology is ok, not the greatest.

BYD mostly using LFP battery( lower power density) in their product lineup including the premium models, as a result , it is Hippo heavier than competitors, but LFP battery terminals are designed to take more frequent beating with full charge.

Others are using NCM battery with higher power density and higher discharge rate to support higher power motor drive without the extra battery weight.

Tesla software and autonomous driving technology is at least a generation ahead.

BYD apparently is perceived more value for money than Tesla.

This is true. If one thinks software is more important, go for tesla. If hardware is more important, go for byd. There is no perfect car in this world.

 

[icyflame]

Tesla will forever be inferior to BYD unless they upgrade their battery.

Tesla battery requires 20% to 80% charging on a regular basis, so their effective range is only 60% of their max range.

On the other hand, BYD’s blade battery gives the full 100% range. In fact, they recommend charging to 100% everytime

This is not correct.

BYD’s blade battery is LFP. So it allows charging to 100%.

But I guess you do not know that the standard range for both Tesla and Xpeng also uses LFP, which allows for 100% charging. Only the extended range versions for both Tesla and Xpeng uses NCM which is recommended for charging to 80% most of the time.

Tesla’s batteries are by CATL. You may not know that CATL is the bigger battery manufacturer in the world, not BYD. CATL tech is no worse than BYDs.

 

[icyflame]

BYD software feels like those old Android OS, over time will slow down. Go showroom and try. The wallpaper very tacky.

BYD has so many different cars over so many sub brands and their softwares are broken over so many regions that software updates are going to be slow and likely to be bug fixes rather than new features. Furthermore BYD refreshes their car far faster so the focus on new features will go to the newer cars and not the older ones.

Tesla, and Xpeng which models its business model like Tesla, have few cars that they keep perfecting. Owners supposedly OTA updates frequently and new features too. Owners from the first Model Y some 5 years ago are getting similar feature updates as the new owners.

To each their own. I am a fan of how Apple adds features to their phone and this keeps it more valuable and attractive. So I like Tesla and Xpeng’s business models better.

 

[kingmaker888]

I am appalled that deepal has taken over the Audi showroom lol

 

[kingmaker888]

CLA was only 188k end last year but 1000 units of sealion were sold within the same month.

Then I suspect it's the china foreigners that are buying

 

[icyflame]

This is true. If one thinks software is more important, go for tesla. If hardware is more important, go for byd. There is no perfect car in this world.

Agree that there is no perfect car in this world but the new model 3 and model y no longer lags behind the Chinese cars in built quality. It used to, especially built quality, sound proofing and ride quality.

Before I test drove both the new model 3 and y I had the same impression as you. That was why it was never in my check list. A friend who owned the new Model Y told me how good it is and that made me go take a look. Walked away impressed.

Both new 3 and Y had excellent built quality unlike the older Tesla I sat in before. They also have double glass for all their windows, unlike BYD and Xpeng which had front windows only). They also had a rear screen to control music, play YouTube and games, and control parts of the car too. Ride quality, suspension, and sound proofing is great.

 

[kingmaker888]

This is true. If one thinks software is more important, go for tesla. If hardware is more important, go for byd. There is no perfect car in this world.

Then bmw?

 

[icyflame]

Exactly. And the so called 40k VES also went into the AD's pocket.

Yup quite a chore to self import. But for EV, the biggest concern is the EV battery warranty. Still need byd singapore to honour the warranty for a peace in mind.

From my research, LFP batteries can last very very long, easily 20-30 years to reach 70% which BYD provides.

 

[icyflame]

Then bmw?

Not sure about BMW but I heard from a dealer that he sold a second hand car which was returned. The reason was it could not charge. It was repaired, then after a while, cannot charge again.

In terms of EV, Japanese and European companies are lagging behind. Previously they only had to deal with Tesla, which was lacking in built quality. Now they have to deal with so many Chinese EVs. That’s why some of them are now creating the narrative that ICE is better than EV, as they are not competitive in the EV arena.

 

[kingmaker888]

Not sure about BMW but I heard from a dealer that he sold a second hand car which was returned. The reason was it could not charge. It was repaired, then after a while, cannot charge again.

In terms of EV, Japanese and European companies are lagging behind. Previously they only had to deal with Tesla, which was lacking in built quality. Now they have to deal with so many Chinese EVs. That’s why some of them are now creating the narrative that ICE is better than EV, as they are not competitive in the EV arena.

Lol ok

 

[icyflame]

I am appalled that deepal has taken over the Audi showroom lol

Chinese EVs are taking over the world

 

[V_for_Vanilla]

I like the way Tesla sells car, more transparent. BYD here partners with the legacy car distributors still paying the old game of guaranteed bids and what not where middle man takes a cut.

 

[Jacy_Phang]

This car is very new, but on the road i already saw some of their taillights, headlights, drl, and signal light having issues.

My colleague 4 mths old Atto 3, steering rack start to give problems..knocking sound when turning. It seem that his is not the isolated case, a few kenna the same issue. Best of all, the main AD in sg does not have the replacement parts n have to wait to ship it in.

If SG is one of the main importers for this brand, shouldn't the manufacture at CN gave priority n ship in those parts that are known to fail easily?..

It may be value for money compared to other EV, but QC is definitely not there.

 

[V_for_Vanilla]

CLA was only 188k end last year but 1000 units of sealion were sold within the same month.

CLA is a nonsense model. For try-hards. No offense to the owners.