[CONSOLIDATED] 柯文哲 Ko P Discussion Thread

[rizhal]

My question is if the polls is in his favor, why did he still chicken out ?
No matter what, if he want to borrow the strength of KMT, he have to do their bidding.
It is not the other way around.
If he want to have the pie and still eat it, that is his own wishful thinking.

It is already mid of Nov.
And he still have not figure out what to do ?
I dunno how he planned his campaign and who are his advisors.

I am repeating myself.

Have you read the poll result carefully? Ignoring the standard deviation error, K-H partner has higher winning % than H-K partner.

Who is a stronger frontman to face DPP ? It is plain to see.

Even many KMT felt Hou is xiasuay not to win the poll with a handicap.

Not chicken out.

 

[Medicated Oil]

Not chicken out put there is discrepancy. Based on kmt interpretation the result is 5-1. Based on ke p interpretation the result is 3-3. Since he think it is a draw, he has reason to back out.

As I covered earlier, the 3% should be defined very clearly in the agreement.
How come there is two sets of interpretation in the end ?
So, who is the party playing punk ?

 

[cnt]

He need Terry's funding to run election for his party 's election. Can't be asking Terry to be a VP

Well, he did not intend to win in this election in the first place. His aim is to make his party stronger. As long as he get enough votes, he will get some seats. Able to be head to head with kmt is a surprise to him. He does not trust kmt will be better than dpp after what kmt did when they were in power. So for him, able to increase his seats is small win, become 2nd popular party in tw is medium win, become president is big win. No matter what he still win.

 

[Medicated Oil]

I am repeating myself.

Have you read the poll result carefully? Ignoring the standard deviation error, K-H partner has higher winning % than H-K partner.

Who is a stronger frontman to face DPP ? It is plain to see.

Even many KMT felt Hou is xiasuay not to win the poll with a handicap.

Not chicken out.

I got the meaning of your last comment.
If Ke P already got the advantage, then how come he is still backing out ?
He should proceed with the partnership, right ?
Or Ke P is still undecided about what to do next ?
Need to ask his mummy or his wife ?

 

[cnt]

As I covered earlier, the 3% should be defined very clearly in the agreement.
How come there is two sets of interpretation in the end ?
So, who is the party playing punk ?

I don’t know as I not expert in statistics. But if the main aim is to win dpp then why need handicap? Shouldn’t they just use the best strategy?

 

[cnt]

I got the meaning of your last comment.
If Ke P already got the advantage, then how come he is still backing out ?
He should proceed with the partnership, right ?
Or Ke P is still undecided about what to do next ?
Need to ask his mummy or his wife ?

Because with handicap he think it is draw mah.

 

[Medicated Oil]

I don’t know as I not expert in statistics. But if the main aim is to win dpp then why need handicap? Shouldn’t they just use the best strategy?

Both candidates want to be the boss.
None of them want to be the 2IC.
The handicap is for KMT to have some advantage.
Dun think they are really so "united" in bringing down DPP.
Every one is still taking care of their own self-interest.

 

[cleffa3000]

Aiyah if green really win
I will arm chio

 

[Medicated Oil]

Because with handicap he think it is draw mah.

Then it is up to Ke P if he want to play this kind of game with KMT.
I already mentioned that if he dun want to cooperate, dun play the game.
He is wishy washy over it now.

KMT may not want to play with him any more.

 

[cnt]

Then it is up to Ke P if he want to play this kind of game with KMT.
I already mentioned that if he dun want to cooperate, dun play the game.
He is wishy washy over it now.

KMT may not want to play with him any more.

He didn’t have the choice. If he never do this, both will lose and he will be the villain instead of the victim. If kmt agree with him that it is a draw, then maybe they can still use another survey to decide.

 

[testart]

Seem like this Ke P can afford to lose.

He don't see there a big responsible to gain power.

 

[Medicated Oil]

He didn’t have the choice. If he never do this, both will lose and he will be the villain instead of the victim. If kmt agree with him that it is a draw, then maybe they can still use another survey to decide.

How many polls he need ?
What if he play punk with stats in the next polls again ?
He have to make the decision to eat the humble pie for the sake of his party OR he want to carry on his Emperor dream.

KMT is not going to fulfil his Emperor dream.
They want to appoint their own Emperor.
So much for de-throning DPP.....
William can tailor his dragon robe liao.

 

[Medicated Oil]

Seem like this Ke P can afford to lose.

He don't see there a big responsible to gain power.

He may be playing the role of Tony.

 

[testart]

Look like is never about serving the people.

Is about their pride and self esteem. Is a competition. Is about winning. Is about victory.

Even lose still got pride and self esteem.

Never about life and death. Still can have rice to eat next day. The next day will still be normal.

 

[likevegetable]

The problem is kmt does not have a strong candidate for 2IC, at least not at KP level.

If kmt best they can offer is hou this kind of standard I doubt they have someone to surprise the voter

They jibaboomed all their strong IC and 2IC choices and turned them into jokers with the Korean Fish and Terry Guo sagats.

 

[Medicated Oil]

Look like is never about serving the people.

Is about their pride and self esteem. Is a competition. Is about winning. Is about victory.

Even lose still got pride and self esteem.

Never about life and death. Still can have rice to eat next day. The next day will still be normal.

Good time to collect all the donations and sponsorship from all the businessmen and elites.

 

[cnt]

Let’s look at those in red. Assuming we use simple mathematics to add 3% more to h-k votes. 46.10x1.03=47.483, 39.7x1.03=40.891. After that h-k still lose. Isn’t this fair for 3% handicap calculation?

 

[cnt]

Look like is never about serving the people.

Is about their pride and self esteem. Is a competition. Is about winning. Is about victory.

Even lose still got pride and self esteem.

Never about life and death. Still can have rice to eat next day. The next day will still be normal.

Depends on how you look at it. If you are kp and you don’t trust kmt will rule the country well then what will you do?

 

[menthol28]

I don’t know as I not expert in statistics. But if the main aim is to win dpp then why need handicap? Shouldn’t they just use the best strategy?

Everyone is still looking after their own interests especially KMT, in their point of view Hou must be President but they keep saying everyone must 把小我再放小一点要为大局和六成民意。 But honestly every game that KMT set rules for against Hou, the only eventual result will be Hou will be the winner in a game that KMT can't lose.
1) Terry Guo vs Hou = in house rile only known to Zhu. Hou won and became KMT presidential candidate.
2) even with Ke P it's the same. Even Zhao shao Kang who is pro KMT said in his programe KMT can never afford to let Hou becomes 2nd IC. He was the one who suggested Ke gave 5% handicap
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Eventually Ke only has to blame himself for signing the alliance agreement in a hurry. Honestly if Ke backtrack this agreement it will be very very bad for his political road in the future, everytime ppl will use this and say he is not trustworthy and always breaks his promise. Like that how to be politician?
He should just honour his agreement although it was rushed and foolish from the start.

 

[testart]

He may be playing the role of Tony.

Maybe is good
President - DPP
Legislative Yuan - KMT

Sort of balance of power