[CONSOLIDATED] 柯文哲 Ko P Discussion Thread

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Others beat around the bush and I cannot understand them. His prediction is always correct most of the time, not like the Ke Jian Ming, 亡国论。

Apart from that, I am more likely to support KMT

the reason i will not support KMT is because they like to 舔共!PLP tiongkok 卖台!
 

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Breaking!

tonight the court hearing will determine if KP can be out on bail. KP will be on stand to defend himself in an open court! so for first time everyone can listen to what he is going to say!

Get popcorn ready!
 

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the reason i will not support KMT is because they like to 舔共!PLP tiongkok 卖台!
Some of them are neutral towards it I think is targeted towards specific people. For example the previous KMT chairman Johnny wanted very much to do with the pro-CCP image.

Hung Hair Chu, Eric, Ma are slightly leading more towards CCP.

Actually I have a impression that our newspaper is slightly Pro CCP as well.
 

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just now i watch 狠狠斗内幕 they have printed a book of all the charges, anywhere online can download?

found it!

 

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Breaking!

tonight the court hearing will determine if KP can be out on bail. KP will be on stand to defend himself in an open court! so for first time everyone can listen to what he is going to say!

Get popcorn ready!

in before 政治迫害!!!
 

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Breaking!

tonight the court hearing will determine if KP can be out on bail. KP will be on stand to defend himself in an open court! so for first time everyone can listen to what he is going to say!

Get popcorn ready!
Can I know the sauce of this thank you very much. I'm very interested to watch this as well
 

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To completely unlock this case need to get 橘子back, which is almost impossible
 

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台灣民眾黨聲明】
政治追殺司法不公,沒有金流濫權起訴!公開審理,釋放柯P!
整整四個月,柯文哲主席配合調查甚至放棄抗告,犧牲人身自由,希望檢方善盡公正調查的責任。
也是整整四個月,社會大眾見識到黨檢媒一體,動用國家資源進行政治清算、人格抹殺、抄家滅黨,柯文哲主席始終無法為自己清白發聲。
但四個月後,我們看到的卻是台北地檢署蒼白無力的起訴內容,查不到金流,空洞拼湊證據,起訴書更坐實這四個月來押人取供、羅織罪名,配合黨檢媒誘導輿論辦案,對柯文哲進行人格抹殺,對台灣民眾黨進行政治追殺。
台灣民眾黨今日召開國際記者會,回擊荒唐、栽贓、誤導式的起訴內容,也呼籲案件移交台北地院後,#公開審理、釋放柯文哲主席。
台灣民眾黨秘書長周榆修、緊急應變小組召集人林富男、黃國昌、李偉華,以及黨籍立委、議員皆到場參加,共同捍衛柯文哲主席清白。林富男表示,北檢濫權起訴淪為政治打手,對台灣民眾黨進行抄家滅黨式的攻擊,這是 #台灣民主最黑暗的一天,呼籲賴清德政府不要將政治黑手深入司法,還給柯文哲主席清白,這不只是捍衛柯文哲,更是捍衛司法公正、捍衛台灣民主法治的價值。
📍柯文哲沒有圖利京華城!從未介入容積審議 遭誣陷起訴
記者會上,台灣民眾黨針對北檢起訴內容一一反擊。對於檢方認定京華城案以「都更法令申請容積獎勵」違法,黃國昌批評,京華城是按照「都市計畫法第24條」申請,根本不是都更,檢方刻意混淆,許多學者專家也都曾公開表達,京華城容積獎勵「沒有違反法令」,何來「明知故意」構成圖利,更何況根據台北市議會調查報告中顯示,包含時任副市長彭振聲、時任都發局長黃景茂都證稱,柯文哲主席「從未指示」公務員違法。「通過容積獎勵的都委會成員都未被起訴,沒有介入的柯文哲卻被起訴」,豈不就是羅織罪名、入人於罪。
📍欲加之罪,何患無辭?京華城非特例 「賴能柯不能」
事實上,京華城容積獎勵並非特例,全國都有相關案例。像是郝龍斌時期的文華東方,以及時任台南市長賴清德通過容積獎勵從180%提高到440%,黃國昌質疑,為何「賴清德可以,柯文哲不行。」高雄國賓飯店更出現容積獎勵達1142.4%,結果柯文哲遭誣陷圖利這就叫做「綠能你不能。」
📍收賄沒證據 根本沒金流! 1500萬檢方用湊的?
檢方查了四個月找不到金流,將記載在Excel裡面的1500胡扯成賄款,起訴書更荒唐的寫出「某時地,親自收受」,黃國昌說,北檢說不出時間、地點、金流,拼拼湊湊差不多時間、差不多的金額,說沈慶京提1600萬,當中有1500萬親自交給柯文哲,完全沒提出任何證據,連證人證詞都沒有,用模糊的字眼、毫無證據的指控,污衊柯文哲收受賄款。
北檢找不到1500萬,但媒體名嘴已經亂扯四個月,過去曾經指控的陳佩琪帳戶、柯文哲家、冷錢包、市長室、京華城工地、化糞池甚至到新加坡通通都沒有,請問這些名嘴要不要出面道歉。
📍210萬合法政治獻金 硬要栽贓是收賄
台灣民眾黨合法收受的政治獻金,沒有任何一塊進入柯文哲的口袋,竟也能被栽贓為收賄!黃國昌反問北檢,到底哪一個政治人物會這樣收取賄款,而關於朱亞虎的認罪部分,黃國昌更揭露接獲檢舉,朱亞虎跟沈慶京有和私人恩怨,朱亞虎為報復沈慶京做出什麼惡意指控,那是朱跟沈之間的事,但若為報復沈慶京,連無辜的柯文哲都要栽贓拖下水,台灣民眾黨不會坐視,在審判程序交互詢問時,相信真相一定會大白。
📍綠色威權完全不演!抄家滅黨 剷除政敵
至於北檢認定政治現金公益侵占案,周榆修則批評,賴政府完美示範如何透過國家機器撂倒政敵,把商業收入都解讀成政治獻金。舉例來說,北檢竟然以柯文哲演唱會門票很高,就等於是政治獻金,毫無邏輯。而眾望基金會員工平時從事慈善工作,在打選期間提供長照政策給柯文哲,跟新境界文教基金會運作並無不同。周榆修甚至秀出過去在新境界擔任青年發展部副主任的名片,表示自己當時也是民進黨中央黨部青年發展部副主任,按照北檢的邏輯,2024年賴清德的新境界文教基金會,侵占了民進黨的政治獻金?這合理嗎,為什麼賴清德可以,柯文哲就該死?
而有關木可,在8月29日記者會說明很清楚,木可跟蔡英文的小英商號、賴清德的賴桑小舖一模一樣。北檢起訴書也證實,端木正會計師確實擅自登打政治獻金帳目,害慘台灣民眾黨。台灣民眾黨發函給監察院要求補正,竟得到需要申報人辦理,或是柯文哲委託書才能,這根本就是刻意卡關。
📍停止押人取供 相信司法終將還柯清白
最後,黃國昌強調,台灣民主前輩換來的民主法治,不應該墮落至此,北檢今天釋放的資訊,很多與案件毫無關係但竟被公開,目的是什麼?就是要讓他們控制的媒體與網軍,對柯文哲進行人格羞辱、人格抹殺。我們相信柯文哲清白,這四個月從沒動搖,相信走完審判程序,會還給柯主席最基本的公道,請停止押人取供、公開審理,釋放柯文哲。
 

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Statement from the Taiwan People’s Party]
Political pursuit and unfair justice, no money flow to prosecute for abuse of power! Open trial and release Ke P!
For four months, Chairman Ke Wenzhe cooperated with the investigation and even gave up his protest, sacrificing his personal freedom, hoping that the prosecutors would fulfill their responsibility for a fair investigation.
For four full months, the public saw that the party, prosecutors, and media were all using state resources to carry out political liquidation, character assassination, and confiscation of homes to destroy the party. Chairman Ke Wenzhe was still unable to speak out for his innocence.
But four months later, what we saw was a feeble indictment from the Taipei District Prosecutor's Office. No money flow could be found, and the evidence was patched together. The indictment even more solidly confirmed the charges of detaining people for confessions and fabricating false accusations in the past four months. Cooperate with the party procuratorate and the media to induce public opinion and handle the case, conduct character assassination on Ke Wenzhe, and launch a political hunt for the Taiwan People's Party.
The Taiwan People's Party held an international press conference today to fight back against the absurd, framed, and misleading prosecution content. It also called for an open trial and the release of Chairman Ke Wenzhe after the case was transferred to the Taipei District Court.
Taiwan People's Party Secretary-General Zhou Yuxiu, emergency response team conveners Lin Funan, Huang Guochang, Li Weihua, as well as party legislators and congressmen all attended the scene to jointly defend Chairman Ke Wenzhe's innocence. Lin Funan said that the Beijing prosecutor's abuse of power and prosecution turned into a political thug, and carried out a house-raiding and extermination-style attack on the Taiwan People's Party. This is the darkest day for #Taiwan's democracy. He calls on the Lai Ching-te government not to let political gangsters penetrate into the judiciary and return it to Chairman Ke Wenzhe Being innocent means not only defending Ko Wenzhe, but also defending judicial fairness and the value of Taiwan's democracy and rule of law.
📍Ke Wenzhe has no intention of profiting from Jinghua City! Never involved in capacity review, framed and prosecuted
At the press conference, the Taiwan People’s Party counterattacked one by one against the contents of the Beijing prosecutor’s prosecution. As for the prosecutor's determination that the "application for area bonus under the metropolitan renewal law" was illegal in the case of Jinghua City, Huang Guochang criticized that Jinghua City applied in accordance with Article 24 of the Urban Planning Act and did not apply for metropolitan renewal at all. The prosecutors deliberately confused it, and many scholars and experts also They have publicly expressed that Jinghua City’s area bonus “does not violate the law”, so how can it “knowingly and intentionally” constitute profit? What’s more, according to the Taipei City Council’s investigation report, including then deputy mayor Peng Zhensheng and then director of urban development Huang Jingmao All evidence stated that Chairman Ke Wenzhe "never instructed" civil servants to violate the law. "None of the members of the metropolitan committee who passed the volume bonus were prosecuted, but Ke Wenzhe, who did not intervene, was prosecuted." Isn't it just a false accusation and a crime?
📍If you want to accuse someone, why bother? Capital City is not a special case "Can't Lai Neng Ke"
In fact, the volume bonus in Jinghua City is not a special case, and there are related cases across the country. For example, Mandarin Oriental during the Hao Longbin period, and then Tainan Mayor Lai Qingde increased the volume bonus from 180% to 440%. Huang Guochang questioned why "Lai Qingde can do it, but Ke Wenzhe can't." The Guobin Hotel in Kaohsiung even had a volume bonus of 1142.4%. As a result, Ke Wenzhe was framed for profit. This is called "Green can but you can't."
📍No evidence of bribery and no cash flow at all! 15 million for the prosecution?
The prosecutors searched for four months and could not find any cash flow. They mistook the 1,500 recorded in Excel as bribes. The indictment even more absurdly stated, "I personally accepted it at a certain time and place." Huang Guochang said that the Beijing Prosecutor's Office could not tell the time and place. Location, money flow, pieced together at about the same time and amount, it was said that Shen Qing proposed 16 million, of which 15 million was personally delivered to Ke Wenzhe. No evidence was provided at all, not even witness testimony, using vague words and no evidence. accused Ke Wenzhe of accepting bribes.
The Beijing Inspection and Quarantine Bureau could not find 15 million, but the famous media mouthpieces have been talking about it for four months. The accounts of Peggy Chen, Ke Wenzhe's home, cold wallets, the mayor's office, the construction site of Jinghua City, septic tanks, and even Singapore were not found. Please ask these famous speakers if they want to come forward and apologize.
📍2.1 million legal political donations are framed as bribes
None of the political donations legally accepted by the Taiwan People's Party went into Ke Wenzhe's pocket, yet it was framed as bribery! Huang Guochang asked the Beijing Prosecutor's Office which politician would accept bribes like this. Regarding Zhu Yahu's confession, Huang Guochang even revealed that he had received a report that Zhu Yahu had a personal grudge against Shen Qingjing. What malicious accusations did Zhu Yahu make to retaliate against Shen Qingjing? That was Zhu Yahu's fault. Regarding the matter with Shen, if in order to retaliate against Shen Qingjing, even the innocent Ke Wenzhe will be framed and dragged into the situation, the Taiwan People's Party will not sit idly by and believe that the truth will be revealed during the cross-examination during the trial process.
📍Green authoritarianism is not acting at all! Confiscating homes and destroying the party, eradicating political opponents
As for the case of public welfare misappropriation of political cash determined by the Beijing Inspection and Quarantine Office, Zhou Yuxiu criticized the Lai government as a perfect example of how to use state machinery to defeat political opponents and interpret all commercial income as political donations. For example, Beiquan used the high ticket price for Ke Wenzhe's concert as a political donation, which is illogical. The employees of the Zhongwang Foundation usually engage in charity work and provided long-term care policies to Ke Wenzhe during the election period, which is no different from the operation of the New Realm Cultural and Educational Foundation. Zhou Yuxiu even showed off his business card as the deputy director of the Youth Development Department of New Realm in the past, saying that he was also the deputy director of the Youth Development Department of the Central Party Committee of the Democratic Progressive Party at that time. According to the logic of the Beijing Examination, in 2024, Lai Qingde’s New Realm Cultural and Educational Foundation usurped political donations to the Democratic Progressive Party? Is this reasonable? Why can Lai Qingde do it but Ke Wenzhe should die?
As for Mu Ke, it was clearly stated at the press conference on August 29 that Mu Ke is exactly the same as Tsai Ing-wen’s Xiaoying Store and Lai Qingde’s Laisang Shop. The Beijing Prosecutor's Office indictment also confirmed that accountant Duan Muzheng did illegally record political donation accounts, causing misfortune to the Taiwan People's Party. The Taiwan People's Party sent a letter to the Supervisory Yuan requesting corrections, but it was found that it required a declarer or a power of attorney from Ko Wenzhe. This is simply a deliberate blockage.
📍Stop detaining people for confession and believe that justice will eventually restore Ke’s innocence
Finally, Huang Guochang emphasized that the democratic rule of law gained by Taiwan's democratic predecessors should not degenerate to this point. Much of the information released by the Beijing Prosecutor's Office today has nothing to do with the case but has been made public. What is the purpose? They want the media and Internet forces they control to humiliate and erase the character of Ke Wenzhe. We believe that Ke Wenzhe is innocent and have never wavered in the past four months. We believe that after the trial process, the most basic justice will be given to Chairman Ke. Please stop detaining people for confession, open the trial, and release Ke Wenzhe.
 

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台湾民众党声明】
政治追杀司法不公,没有金流滥权起诉!公开审理,释放柯P!
整整四个月,柯文哲主席配合调查甚至放弃抗告,牺牲人身自由,希望检方善尽公正调查的责任。
也是整整四个月,社会大众见识到党检媒一体,动用国家资源进行政治清算、人格抹杀、抄家灭党,柯文哲主席始终无法为自己清白发声。
但四个月后,我们看到的却是台北地检署苍白无力的起诉内容,查不到金流,空洞拼凑证据,起诉书更坐实这四个月来押人取供、罗织罪名,配合党检媒诱导舆论办案,对柯文哲进行人格抹杀,对台湾民众党进行政治追杀。
台湾民众党今日召开国际记者会,回击荒唐、栽赃、误导式的起诉内容,也呼吁案件移交台北地院后,#公开审理、释放柯文哲主席。
台湾民众党秘书长周榆修、紧急应变小组召集人林富男、黄国昌、李伟华,以及党籍立委、议员皆到场参加,共同捍卫柯文哲主席清白。林富男表示,北检滥权起诉沦为政治打手,对台湾民众党进行抄家灭党式的攻击,这是#台湾民主最黑暗的一天,呼吁赖清德政府不要将政治黑手深入司法,还给柯文哲主席清白,这不只是捍卫柯文哲,更是捍卫司法公正、捍卫台湾民主法治的价值。
📍柯文哲没有图利京华城!从未介入容积审议 遭诬陷起诉
记者会上,台湾民众党针对北检起诉内容一一反击。对于检方认定京华城案以「都更法令申请容积奖励」违法,黄国昌批评,京华城是按照「都市计画法第24条」申请,根本不是都更,检方刻意混淆,许多学者专家也都曾公开表达,京华城容积奖励「没有违反法令」,何来「明知故意」构成图利,更何况根据台北市议会调查报告中显示,包含时任副市长彭振声、时任都发局长黄景茂都证称,柯文哲主席「从未指示」公务员违法。 「通过容积奖励的都委会成员都未被起诉,没有介入的柯文哲却被起诉」,岂不就是罗织罪名、入人于罪。
📍欲加之罪,何患无辞?京华城非特例 「赖能柯不能」
事实上,京华城容积奖励并非特例,全国都有相关案例。像是郝龙斌时期的文华东方,以及时任台南市长赖清德通过容积奖励从180%提高到440%,黄国昌质疑,为何「赖清德可以,柯文哲不行。」高雄国宾饭店更出现容积奖励达1142.4%,结果柯文哲遭诬陷图利这就叫做「绿能你不能。」
📍收贿没证据 根本没金流! 1500万检方用凑的?
检方查了四个月找不到金流,将记载在Excel里面的1500胡扯成贿款,起诉书更荒唐的写出「某时地,亲自收受」,黄国昌说,北检说不出时间、地点、金流,拼拼凑凑差不多时间、差不多的金额,说沈庆京提1600万,当中有1500万亲自交给柯文哲,完全没提出任何证据,连证人证词都没有,用模糊的字眼、毫无证据的指控,污蔑柯文哲收受贿款。
北检找不到1500万,但媒体名嘴已经乱扯四个月,过去曾经指控的陈佩琪帐户、柯文哲家、冷钱包、市长室、京华城工地、化粪池甚至到新加坡通通都没有,请问这些名嘴要不要出面道歉。
📍210万合法政治献金 硬要栽赃是收贿
台湾民众党合法收受的政治献金,没有任何一块进入柯文哲的口袋,竟也能被栽赃为收贿!黄国昌反问北检,到底哪一个政治人物会这样收取贿款,而关于朱亚虎的认罪部分,黄国昌更揭露接获检举,朱亚虎跟沈庆京有和私人恩怨,朱亚虎为报复沈庆京做出什么恶意指控,那是朱跟沈之间的事,但若为报复沈庆京,连无辜的柯文哲都要栽赃拖下水,台湾民众党不会坐视,在审判程序交互询问时,相信真相一定会大白。
📍绿色威权完全不演!抄家灭党 铲除政敌
至于北检认定政治现金公益侵占案,周榆修则批评,赖政府完美示范如何透过国家机器撂倒政敌,把商业收入都解读成政治献金。举例来说,北检竟然以柯文哲演唱会门票很高,就等于是政治献金,毫无逻辑。而众望基金会员工平时从事慈善工作,在打选期间提供长照政策给柯文哲,跟新境界文教基金会运作并无不同。周榆修甚至秀出过去在新境界担任青年发展部副主任的名片,表示自己当时也是民进党中央党部青年发展部副主任,按照北检的逻辑,2024年赖清德的新境界文教基金会,侵占了民进党的政治献金?这合理吗,为什么赖清德可以,柯文哲就该死?
而有关木可,在8月29日记者会说明很清楚,木可跟蔡英文的小英商号、赖清德的赖桑小铺一模一样。北检起诉书也证实,端木正会计师确实擅自登打政治献金帐目,害惨台湾民众党。台湾民众党发函给监察院要求补正,竟得到需要申报人办理,或是柯文哲委托书才能,这根本就是刻意卡关。
📍停止押人取供 相信司法终将还柯清白
最后,黄国昌强调,台湾民主前辈换来的民主法治,不应该堕落至此,北检今天释放的资讯,很多与案件毫无关系但竟被公开,目的是什么?就是要让他们控制的媒体与网军,对柯文哲进行人格羞辱、人格抹杀。我们相信柯文哲清白,这四个月从没动摇,相信走完审判程序,会还给柯主席最基本的公道,请停止押人取供、公开审理,释放柯文哲。
 

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Anything against TPP they will claim is 司法迫害.

The report is so long they really finish reading ? They just ignore all evidence.

The biggest joke is 馆长 also claimed he has finished reading the report 🤣🤣🤣
 

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Breaking:

館長just jump off his live and on the way to 北檢 to stand with the supporter
 
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