Digital TV (DVB T2) in Singapore [consolidated]

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yes i also find it weird. they keep telling that paytv viewers are watching digital channels already... but what we want is HD... not just digital.

from starhub's reply seems like still in progress....
like that mediacorpse and MDA might as well own up and tell the public HD8 not ready ...

singtel and starhub end up becum collateral damage
 

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Read through this thread and understand that the Draco STB is selling at some best denki, NTUC Xtra, and courts outlets. Anyone spotted it selling at Harvey norman?
 

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Any one can help?
just brought yesterday
Daiyo EU1702 indoor Antenna
Draco HDT2- 7300
still no signal at all :(:(:(
location : Bukit Panjang (3rd storey)
 

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Any one can help?
just brought yesterday
Daiyo EU1702 indoor Antenna
Draco HDT2- 7300
still no signal at all :(:(:(
location : Bukit Panjang (3rd storey)

Why u bought Daiyo antenna? Thought the Draco set got include antenna? Maybe can try connecting just the Daiyo antenna to see can receive any FTA channels or not(DVB-T). If can , swap with the Draco STB
 

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Hi Leongws
Already try both antenna to TV and from Draco to TV, All cannot get clear normal channels.
 

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Can u get the 4 channels(ch5, ch8, cna and hd5) when u use the daiyo antenna. Your tv support dvb-t? If yes u search by digital or analog?
 

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Can u get the 4 channels(ch5, ch8, cna and hd5) when u use the daiyo antenna. Your tv support dvb-t? If yes u search by digital or analog?
My TV only DVB-t1,
cannot get clear ch8,ch5 and cna when i use daiyo (very burl) i search by analog.
digital totally nothing.
 

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so now buy digital tv also cannot receive? my bto coming, dunno want to buy digital tv
 

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GUYS!

Omg I am gonna repeat this again.
You just have to get use to it. Other questions are similarly repeated again and again.

MediaCorp is still in discussions with both pay TV operators to carry the 3 HD channels. The (HD) you have seen is just the description, to show ppl that this show is available in HD.

The HD channels are not gonna replace the SD channels on their platform, and that is because MDA mandates the pay TV operators to carry both SD and HD version of the channels.

As for the carriage of the HD channels, once again, I say that both of them currently only carry Channel 5 HD, because it was launched 1st back in 2007. They are now in discussions to carry the remaining 3 HD channel on their platforms.

When the HD channels are opened on their channel list, they will announce it.

There is no HD packs or whatsoever because when they launch them, they must be offered at no cost.
Just a friendly suggestion. Be careful of releasing sensitive info until they are officially announced, unless you are authorised. If it is your own opinion then that's a different story.
 

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My TV only DVB-t1,
cannot get clear ch8,ch5 and cna when i use daiyo (very burl) i search by analog.
digital totally nothing.
My tv also just have dvb-t. When searching by analog like u image is very blur. When I search by digital, the 4 digital channels are all very clear. Maybe u can try searching through digital manually instead of auto. The channel is ch 38 for the 4 fta if u use daiyo antenna
 

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I used a simple omnidirectional antenna about 9 inch tall which could not pick up any signals. I have tried near windows and balcony but failed miserably.

9inch ? Please lah ... comes with the tuner one isit? Those short short don bother

You try get those cheap 1m long telescopic one
That one alot better
9 inch is just about right. For reception of Singapore T and T2 signal, the optimum length of the antenna element (like that shown in #734 or a simple telescopic) is about 0.25 to 0.3m. Telescopic, or rod antenna may have to be placed in a horizontal position. 1m long telescopic may work for VHF, but is far too long for UHF.

Understanding Indoor Antenna in the spoiler

This post arises from numerous questions about indoor antenna.

To use an analogy, using antenna to capture tv signal is like fishing.

Kelong is located at the most advantages location to trap fish. The design is optimised to lead more fish to the net. Similarly, outdoor antenna is installed at the best location (roof top). The design of the antenna is optimised to capture VHF or UHF signal.

For UHF signal, the optimum length of the antenna element is about 0.25 to 0.3m for the Singapore DVB channels (half of 300 divided by frequency of channel in MHz). Those who have seen roof top antennae would have noticed that they are installed in a horizontal plane. This is because the signal is polarised in the horizontal plane. If the antenna is install in the vertical plane, signal received would be zero theorectically (think polarised as in sunglasses). [The relevance of this information will be clearer later]

For master tv antenna (matv) serving a large number of units, the signal is processed and amplified before distribution to individual units.

For UHF indoor antenna, reception is compromised because of obstructions from building, reflections, etc. Furthermore, sometimes it is smaller than the ideal dimension. However, this can be compensated some what by tuned circuit incorporated.

Nevertheless, the technology of DVB transmission has taken care of these limitations, more so in T2 over T format. With built-in error correction and only a small fraction of signal strenth required as compared to analogue tv, very weak signal still can be decoded successfully for perfect reception.

So, a simple rabbit antenna, or one as I have used and shown in the other post, can be used successfully. The important point to note is that indoor, the antenna element may not neccessarily be always in the horizontal plane. The antenna element may have to be inclined at 45 degree, for example. This is because refections of signal may have changed the polarisation. Effort may have to be made to find the best orientation and location for best overall reception. (This is also true for outdoor installation). Extension cable to increase the lenth of the cable may help to improve the chance of getting a good location.

Pic and more info contained in the other post:
How about amplified antenna?

An "amplified antenna" is one that comes with a booster, either built-in or attached as a separate device. For indoor use, the booster is a small amplifier that can increase the signal strength received from the antenna. But as an active device, the booster also introduces some noise. So even if the signal strength is boosted, the signal quality may deteriorate.

As can be seen in earlier posts, results vary. Every case is unique. It pays to try various options.
 

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I may have missed something here, how to copy an URL for pasting an image from my pc?

There's this mountain with a sun icon when you are replying someone(not quick reply), click on it, insert the image link and done. You first have to upload your image to a photo image upload server eg. postimage.org, imgur.com :)

Noticed you have less than 50 post counts, maybe you don't have enough post counts to upload a picture. If is like this, you could copy the link of the image you have uploaded,monastery it here and remove the " http:// "
 

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Thanks! I can see only Channel 5 HD is available, the rest are still SD quality although many talks in the street/newspaper about free channels on HD are available by end of last year.

Some Channel 8 programs via Starhub are already named as (HD) although the picture is defiantly not HD, I also thought Starhub might not be really ready for broadcasting HD by MDA's deadline so they had to sell horse meat as beefsteak... But any inside news, when will they be ready?

I do not have insider news on that.

StarHub named them (HD) is because they take the data directly from the MediaCorp EPG. If you go look at SingTel Mio TV's EPG they also take the same data.

And StarHub is always ready to broadcast HD (look at the amount of HD channels they have now), the only question is whether they want to carry it or not.
 

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You just have to get use to it. Other questions are similarly repeated again and again.

Just a friendly suggestion. Be careful of releasing sensitive info until they are officially announced, unless you are authorised. If it is your own opinion then that's a different story.

Er, there are people asking them in their FB and I just took the answer from them. The MediaCorp digital TV's website also say the same thing. So definitely no sensitive info or whatever.

I am just echoing whatever they said.
 

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I just bought a SONY LED TV with a integrated TVB-T2 tuner.

The salesperson told me to receive the digital channels, i will just need to connect the TV to the SCV point, no antennae is required. Is this true?

I thought even with a integrated TVB-T2 Tuner, i will also need to get a e antennae
 

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I just bought a SONY LED TV with a integrated TVB-T2 tuner.

The salesperson told me to receive the digital channels, i will just need to connect the TV to the SCV point, no antennae is required. Is this true?

I thought even with a integrated TVB-T2 Tuner, i will also need to get a e antennae

The SCV point couldn't receive T2 signals, only analog and DVB-C signals. The salesman must have convey the wrong meaning to you(and maybe others too). If you have a T2 TV, you need an indoor digital antenna or if you have MATV wall point, you could try connecting to it to receive T2 signals. My LG DVB-T2 integrated TV couldn't receive T2 signals when connected to the SCV point. What model is your Sony TV? :)
 
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I just bought a SONY LED TV with a integrated TVB-T2 tuner.

The salesperson told me to receive the digital channels, i will just need to connect the TV to the SCV point, no antennae is required. Is this true?

I thought even with a integrated TVB-T2 Tuner, i will also need to get a e antennae
You go back to the shop, u go cock the salesperson head.
LOL!

He obviously don't know his stuff.
And try to pull a fast one on you.
 

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The SCV point couldn't receive T2 signals, only analog and DVB-C signals. The salesman must have convey the wrong meaning to you(and maybe others too). If you have a T2 TV, you need an indoor digital antenna or if you have MATV wall point, you could try connecting to it to receive T2 signals. My LG DVB-T2 integrated TV couldn't receive T2 signals when connected to the SCV point. What model is your Sony TV? :)

KDL-42W674A..is this a good model?
 
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