NightRaven49
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the modern 14 uses intel 10th gen u series, which has a very dated igpu and far behind the amd u/g series, but since u mentioned 2gb gpu i suppose u also have the mx330 on it? cant tell if ur using the igpu or dgpu to game, but either way would be suboptimal. the igpu was already fairly weak when it launched 4 years ago, so naturally performance would be low if u are gaming on it. but if ur using the dgpu to game, allocating 8gb to the igpu is effectively throwing away that 8gb of ram to do nothing as u wont be using it at all, while the remaining 8gb is left to run the game, background programs and the rest of ur system. that is likely not enough and causing the lags. if i were u, id try to find a way to allocate less ram to the igpu (likely through bios, maybe 512mb is enough) so the system has most of the 16gb to work with, and ensure that games are run on the dgpu (which is much faster than the igpu), see if things improve before considering an upgrade.
if u do decide to upgrade, u can go youtube and find gameplay of the games u play on these apus like the 5560u/5600g, valo easily does 150fps with 1% lows around 100fps at 1080p high settings, which indicates a smooth experience (reflected in the recorded footage). 32gb ram will definitely help to ensure ur system has enough ram even if u allocate 8gb to the igpu (overkill), and ddr4 is fairly cheap nowadays. imo a modern dgpu to play these kinds of games is too overkill, especially if u dont use a high refresh rate monitor, and would be a waste of money.
imo i dont think its worth it to upgrade to the 7700. for gaming, the 57x3d gets very close (compare 7700 and 58x3d fps numbers) and is a drop in upgrade. aaa games are also generally very gpu heavy so cpu is not that big of a factor in performance. unless u feel that the 5700x cant zip/unzip ur files fast enough and u do it on a regular enough basis to be able to save time going from zen3 to zen4, i think there would be little benefit in the short to medium term spending so much on a platform upgrade. if u really want am5, best to jump to the 78x3d directly and u should be set for the next few years.
if dead set on going am5, i feel msi boards are not very well equipped for the price they are asking. the asrock steel legend has pcie gen5 enabled primary x16 slot and nvme, which is already better than the b650 tomahawk which is stuck on gen4, and is probably cheaper too. i would only go x670 if i really need those extra pcie slots. ddr5 memory training on am5 is also largely a non issue at this point, just remember to enable some bios settings [1] [2]. but again, i would advise u to stick to am4 especially if ur more familiar with msi bios.
if the lf2 is still working well, no point replacing it as the gains are very minimal. u would basically be spending $130 to shave at most 1-2 deg c (emphasis at 12:38), which i feel is not worth it. yes the lf3 may be the best thing, but the lf2 gets u 95% of the way there and u dont have to spend anything extra.
unless u experience unexpected shutdowns while using ur current 650w unit, im not sure i see the benefit of replacing it with a higher wattage one given that ur reusing ur gpu. maybe only to get a fresh 10y warranty, but ur current unit is not even halfway through.
the vrm is massively cut down, going from 14 60a power stages to 6 50a power stages. the vrm also has a significantly smaller heatsink, resulting in much higher operating temperatures with a 7950x. but performance should not be affected with the 78x3d, since it barely pulls any power. i did help build this 78x3d + b650m pg lightning combo in a y60 case recently, so far no performance complaints, and at least the y60 mounts the gpu vertically to hide the empty space that the matx board doesnt fill.
id settle for a 5600g build for under $600 or mini pc for even less as originally recommended to u, since cost seems like a priority, and either of those will do the job just fine. the 8600g doesnt really make a lot of sense given u can get a 5600 + 4060 build for the same or less money, which would be a whole lot faster, and u mention that u are not too sure about the upgrade path (which is a key selling point of am5). or just try out fixing ur laptop first as advised above; ur 2nd post did come before my response above since i do try to limit my posts on this thread to once a day so i can one shot reply many in one post, i know i will spam reply otherwise since i do check here frequently
in that case, better to wait for 50 series. most of the 50 series probably wont beat the 4080s and thus wont be an upgrade, and the parts that are likely to actually provide an uplift (eg 5080, 5090) are launching within the next 6 months.
