if u already have a gpu why look at igpu?
as called out below by @RockaRolla the igpu would be useful for troubleshooting, I think I've made up my mind, thanks folks!
if u already have a gpu why look at igpu?
as called out below by @RockaRolla the igpu would be useful for troubleshooting, I think I've made up my mind, thanks folks!
i would get option 2, ur paying less for a cpu with igpu. vrms dont matter at this power level, and both will comfortably power 16c am5 anyway (the tuf m-e being slightly better actually as iceblendedchoc linked). while msi's am4 range was pretty decent, them skipping on any pcie5 support on basically all their b650 boards is a mistake imo. all the other brands have at least gen5 nvme on some of their midrange boards like the tuf m-e, again for a cheaper price.op1: better vrms? slightly slower cpu vs op2: good vrm, faster cpu+igpu
option 1: MSI MAG B650M MORTAR WIFI | 7500f $492
option 2: ASUS TUF GAMING B650M-E WIFI | 7600 $486
comparable price, and easier to debug if gpu fails.if u already have a gpu why look at igpu?
ok... coz last time i was using intel 3 gen with igpu in the end the mb fail cant even turn on igpu...i would get option 2, ur paying less for a cpu with igpu. vrms dont matter at this power level, and both will comfortably power 16c am5 anyway (the tuf m-e being slightly better actually as iceblendedchoc linked). while msi's am4 range was pretty decent, them skipping on any pcie5 support on basically all their b650 boards is a mistake imo. all the other brands have at least gen5 nvme on some of their midrange boards like the tuf m-e, again for a cheaper price.
comparable price, and easier to debug if gpu fails.
any reasonably modern cpu is enough, since geforce now does all the processing required for gaming and all ur cpu has to do is stream the control input and video output. if dont want to diy, invaderpc has a basic 5600g pc for under $600 (u can diy a similar setup for closer to $500, see first post). or if u dont care about upgrading it in the future, u can get a mini pc which can be had for even less.Planning to subscribe to GEforce Now for that so I think I will need a good CPU to handle AAA games and can ignore graphic card requirements?
then u come to the diy thread for whatWill not consider to DIY as I dont have the time to research and source for parts for it.

Im open to diy companies like aftershock, mansa etc but i dont want to diy by myselfany reasonably modern cpu is enough, since geforce now does all the processing required for gaming and all ur cpu has to do is stream the control input and video output. if dont want to diy, invaderpc has a basic 5600g pc for under $600 (u can diy a similar setup for closer to $500, see first post). or if u dont care about upgrading it in the future, u can get a mini pc which can be had for even less.
then u come to the diy thread for what![]()
| Price | ||
| CPU + Motherboard | MSI MAG B650M MORTAR WIFI + Ryzen 7 7800x3D | 827 |
| CPU Cooler | Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 | 64 |
| Memory | TEAM T-FORCE DELTA RGB DDR5 6000MH 32 GB | 155 |
| GPU | MSI RTX4070Ti SUPER Ventus 2X 16Gb OC Twin Fan GDDR6X | 1200? |
| Storage | Western Digital WD_Black SN850X 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive | 225 |
| Case | LIAN LI DAN M-ATX A3 MESH CASING Black | 110 |
| Power Supply | Corsair SF850L-850W ATX3.0 Gold SFX Modul | 211 |
| Arctic P12 120mm PWM Fan x2 | 30 | |
| 2 SSD from old PC | 0 | |
| Total | 2667 |
you can opt for Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE for CPU cooler.Hey al,l my PC died last year and want to use some of the parts like SSD for the new pc build
Primary for gaming and web development, maybe trying AI
Want to go back to ITX but the tax is high and my NCASE case cannot fit the newer graphic card. So plan to MFF.
Plan to go SLS to have it build, dont feel like building it myself . All the prices i took from Dynacore
it been a long time never touch PC hardware so I will make mistakes Thanks!
Price CPU + Motherboard MSI MAG B650M MORTAR WIFI + Ryzen 7 7800x3D 827 CPU Cooler Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 64 Memory TEAM T-FORCE DELTA RGB DDR5 6000MH 32 GB 155 GPU MSI RTX4070Ti SUPER Ventus 2X 16Gb OC Twin Fan GDDR6X 1200? Storage Western Digital WD_Black SN850X 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive 225 Case LIAN LI DAN M-ATX A3 MESH CASING Black 110 Power Supply Corsair SF850L-850W ATX3.0 Gold SFX Modul 211 Arctic P12 120mm PWM Fan x2 30 2 SSD from old PC 0 Total 2667
this $827 price appears to be the combo with the msi b650i edge, correct price is 765. even though the actual price is lower, i would recommend u get the asus tuf b650m-e instead, as it is much cheaper @ 657, supports pcie gen5 nvme with everything else being pretty similar.
CPU + Motherboard MSI MAG B650M MORTAR WIFI + Ryzen 7 7800x3D 827
do check with them what the secondary timings of this kit are, ie the cl numbers, ideally should be cl30. ponying up an extra $20 for the set with confirmed cl30 timing isnt a bad choice.
Memory TEAM T-FORCE DELTA RGB DDR5 6000MH 32 GB 155
the a3-matx supports regular atx psus, which can be had for a much cheaper price. dynacore offers the cm v650 v2 gold for just 120 (though in white).
Power Supply Corsair SF850L-850W ATX3.0 Gold SFX Modul 211
you can opt for Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE for CPU cooler.
Thanks for spotting my mistake, I am getting blind haha.this $827 price appears to be the combo with the msi b650i edge, correct price is 765. even though the actual price is lower, i would recommend u get the asus tuf b650m-e instead, as it is much cheaper @ 657, supports pcie gen5 nvme with everything else being pretty similar.
do check with them what the secondary timings of this kit are, ie the cl numbers, ideally should be cl30. ponying up an extra $20 for the set with confirmed cl30 timing isnt a bad choice.
the a3-matx supports regular atx psus, which can be had for a much cheaper price. dynacore offers the cm v650 v2 gold for just 120 (though in white).
the -e is a slightly cut down version of the plus, but unless u need the second nvme heatsink, they are by and large the same thing.I see there is a ASUS TUF GAMING B650M-PLUS WIFI is there any difference.
manufacturer recommendations usually include a lot of headroom. have personally ran cards that are 600w recommended on a 450w psu without issue. outside of oc, the 4070tiS consumes around 300w under load, with spikes of up to 340w, only about half of a 650w psu. the rest of the system shouldnt exceed 150w, as the 78x3d sips power.I do understand about the PSU but due to 4070ti super require 750w so 650w would be sufficient?
the ti is a step down from the tiS. i wouldnt get asus either, since their cards are generally a lot more expensive ($100-200 upcharge) for no good reason.Is there a alternative Asus version for 4070TI that can you recommend?
a proper quality drive like the 980pro or sn850x isnt that big of a top up away, especially when ur already spending so much.Storage - LEXAR NM790 1TB NVME Gen4 (7400R/6500W)
truly minmaxCasing - Tecware NEO M2 TG - Black

havent seen too many reviews of thermalright psus, better to stick to more reputable units.Power Supply - Thermalright TG 850W 80+ Gold Certified (ATX3.0+Gen5)
noted on the ssd recommendation.a proper quality drive like the 980pro or sn850x isnt that big of a top up away, especially when ur already spending so much.
truly minmax
havent seen too many reviews of thermalright psus, better to stick to more reputable units.
Montech AIR 100 LITE - gpu clearance is 330mm, Powercolour is 322mm or 332mm w/ bracket which i presume is the anti-sag bracket. If so, use a different type of anti-sag bracket available in the market or find something to put in between to support your GPU.Complete newbie attempting to build a PC via InvaderPC. Would appreciate advice on whether I should change any parts for better value.
Processor - Ryzen5 7500F
Cooler - Stock
Motherboard - ASUS TUF GAMING B650M-E WIFI
RAM - 32GB TEAM T-FORCE DELTA RGB DDR5 6000MHz CL30
Storage - Samsung 980 Pro 7000MB/s Gen4 Nvme M.2
Casing - Montech AIR 100 LITE
Graphics Card - Asus Amd Radeon Dual RX 7800XT O16G Twin Fan GDDR6 OR
Powercolor Hellhound Amd Radeon RX 7800XT 16GB OC Triple Fan GDDR6
Power Supply - CM MWE Gold V2 750W ATX3.0 80+ Gold Modular
Not sure if my build can fit into the case I've chosen. If not, are there any other case with open-able side door that is under $100?
Also, the 2 graphics card difference is around $100. Is it worth to take the Twin Fan since my air flow and thermal should be pretty good?
nothing wrong with the original case, just that it was the only cheapo part on there, but it will fit all the parts fine. psu is good too, though i would maybe go for cheaper 750w like the rm750e or adata core reactor ii ve 750w.casing gonna opt for H7 Flow / fractal north.
corsair rme RM850e 850w psu.
when buying amd cards, i would always choose amd exclusive board partners (sapphire, powercolor, xfx) over others, since their coolers actually work. asus cards are usually poorly priced anyway, sounds like ur paying more for the asus card and lose a fan? yea no.Also, the 2 graphics card difference is around $100. Is it worth to take the Twin Fan since my air flow and thermal should be pretty good?
when buying amd cards, i would always choose amd exclusive board partners (sapphire, powercolor, xfx) over others, since their coolers actually work. asus cards are usually poorly priced anyway, sounds like ur paying more for the asus card and lose a fan? yea no.