Do this type of Cholesterol need to take med?

Mecisteus

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Since day 1, i go polyclinic.... they issue more and more medicine. keep asking me do this checkup that checkup. ask me to take vaccine....listen to simi talk... talk to simi care manager.... waste my time. :cautious:

felt like complaining to moh.

I think should be asking ownself first.

Are you really metabolically healthy yourself ?

Good fitness, good BMI, good blood glucose, etc ?

If yes, you shouldn't need to see the doctor actually.

But when you need to see, then listen lor.
 

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dun understand what u talking about.....

i said this again.
-Yes.... if got illness... best to do checkup and get treated asap.
-However, the patient want to get treated anot, it is up to themselves. Doctors don't have rights to override. We are not living in North korea.

-Yes... doctors are the professional.... we should listen.
-No, we can only listen partial.... they are just textbook doctors.... i googled or ask chatgpt can find out specify what wrong with my health, and do the remedy.

Doctors cannot override individual rights and autonomy.

You have the right to refuse and reject. Dowan treatment then say dowan.
I dont remember SG force people get treatment (aside from Covid vaccines).
You can treat yourself please please please DO NOT GO SEE DOCTOR and then kpkb about it.

The problem is you ownself go see doctor then make yourself unhappy. Dunno why you do that?

Is like I go Starbuck drink coffee say I hate coffee.
 

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Very high dosage compare to those people I know on the drugs. Ts, do you have other risk factors? Sometimes doctor look at all risk factors and decide on dosage to reach a target level of LDL. e,g if one have type 2 diabetes, hypertension, sedentary, have plaque in the arteries, they might want to target a much lower LDL and not just the reference number.
 

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dun understand what u talking about.....

i said this again.
-Yes.... if got illness... best to do checkup and get treated asap.
-However, the patient want to get treated anot, it is up to themselves. Doctors don't have rights to override. We are not living in North korea.

-Yes... doctors are the professional.... we should listen.
-No, we can only listen partial.... they are just textbook doctors.... i googled or ask chatgpt can find out specify what wrong with my health, and do the remedy.
Maybe you should go see @Checkyrmed she sounds more holistic and knowledgeable,
 

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Ask you.
Why you go polyclinic anyway?

Just learn to say no.

Maybe nowadays polyclinic also got pressure to sell things. Sounds like it from what you say.

Better still maybe dont go polyclinic. There are some clinics quite open minded and patient centred. They will only do what you want.

Go private maybe end up more pleasant for you.

Even in Canada the patients will switch doctors one. They want to find one that fits their agenda.
u still dun get it.

be it gahmen or private...... we are the customers.... we are the consumers.
Any medicine u jiak will affect ur organs efficiency or give side effect in long term.

just like those people dun want to take covid vaccine.
 

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u still dun get it.

be it gahmen or private...... we are the customers.... we are the consumers.
Any medicine u jiak will affect ur organs efficiency or give side effect in long term.

just like those people dun want to take covid vaccine.

I get it! Trust me I do!
You are the customer! Customer is king. I totally agree.
What medicine you jiak is up to you. Dowan jiak also up to you.

I don't think anyone force.

Anyway with the vaccine issue. I also disagree with forcing people to take the covid shots.

Alberta already have laws to state it is up to people to choose. No more forcing people.
In Alberta many people dont take even Measles vaccine.

You should stop going to Polyclinic cos it is govt run. You go private. Got some clinics very pro alternative approaches one. You will be happier with them. I know some of these clinics last time.
 

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u still dun get it.

be it gahmen or private...... we are the customers.... we are the consumers.
Any medicine u jiak will affect ur organs efficiency or give side effect in long term.

just like those people dun want to take covid vaccine.

Wrong mindset lah.

You choose an approach that lowers your risk, increase lifespan, fix a disease, etc

If medicines can provide that, then take. Otherwise, self medicate.
 

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Maybe you should go see @Checkyrmed she sounds more holistic and knowledgeable,
i not seeking for anything.

Just telling chiu..... god give us brain... to think.
The doctor Said A, doesn't mean u must 100% follow or 100% believe.
u need to think.

i too lazy to type....
my experience is i recovered without doctor help. If i follow strict diet and lifestyle, basically i no need to jiak medicines at all.
 

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My current Cholesterol med.

fenofibrate -100mg
atorvastatin -80mg
ezetimibe - 10mg




This is my march 2025 result

- Total Cholesterol: 2.98mmol/l aka 115.24 mg/dL
- HDL Cholesterol: 1.49 mmol/l aka 57.62 mg/dL
- LDL Cholesterol: 1.16 mmol/l aka 44.86 mg/dL
- Triglycerides: 0.73 mmol/l aka 64.66mg/dL



This is may 2024 result

- Total Cholesterol: 2.89 mmol/l aka 111.76 mg/dL
- HDL Cholesterol: 1.41 mmol/l aka 54.52 mg/dL
- LDL Cholesterol: 1.23 mmol/l aka 47.56 mg/dL
- Triglycerides: 0.55 mmol/l aka 48.72 mg/dL



This is jan 2024 result

- Total Cholesterol: 5.06mmol/l aka 195.67 mg/dL
- HDL Cholesterol: 1.80 mmol/l aka 69.6 mg/dL
- LDL Cholesterol: 2.98 mmol/l aka 115.24 mg/dL
- Triglycerides: 0.62 mmol/l aka 54.92 mg/dL


This is oct 2023 result

- Total Cholesterol: 4.86 mmol/l aka 187.94 mg/dL
- HDL Cholesterol: 1.56 mmol/l aka 60.32 mg/dL
- LDL Cholesterol: 3.04 mmol/l aka 117.56 mg/dL
- Triglycerides: 0.57 mmol/l aka 50.49 mg/dL



the problem is i stop taking my Cholesterol med somewhere in jan or feb of 2024. and for may 2024 test onward, i only take last 6 days before the Cholesterol test.
why do you bother taking the meds 6 days before test??!
 

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I get it! Trust me I do!
You are the customer! Customer is king. I totally agree.
What medicine you jiak is up to you. Dowan jiak also up to you.

I don't think anyone force.

Anyway with the vaccine issue. I also disagree with forcing people to take the covid shots.

Alberta already have laws to state it is up to people to choose. No more forcing people.
In Alberta many people dont take even Measles vaccine.

You should stop going to Polyclinic cos it is govt run. You go private. Got some clinics very pro alternative approaches one. You will be happier with them. I know some of these clinics last time.
why should i go private? just because u not happy with me? lol

i think u think too much liao.
i am saying this cause TS philosophy is diff from u. he believes in euthanasia.
 

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The numbers don't really mean anything.

All boils down to various factors like

Age, family history, medical history, diet, lifestyle, condition of arteries, etc

Example someone who is in the 20s and with sky high cholesterols. This guy is less likely to get stroke in the next 5 years compared to a 50 years old.
you recommend carnivore diet too?
 

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Find it really weird when people complain go Polyclinic that the doctor give medicine and do checkup and recommend vaccine

What you expecting?

Is like complain everytime go Starbucks they recommend me drink Coffee!
Is like complain everytime go Seafood Restaurant they recommend me eat seafood!
Is like complain everytime go KFC they recommend me eat fried chicken so unhealthy!
Is like complain everytime go car workshop they recommend me change oil, service brakes, flush transmission and brake fluid!
it’s cuz these poor health indicators corelatedc to flu complications

surprised no one has started accusing moh of following globalist agenda, etc
 

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Do you have any heart problem. I have heart blockage. Is on medication. I take atorvastatin 80mg. Ezetimibe 10mg as my LdL need to maintain below 1.3
 

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i not seeking for anything.

Just telling chiu..... god give us brain... to think.
The doctor Said A, doesn't mean u must 100% follow or 100% believe.
u need to think.

i too lazy to type....
my experience is i recovered without doctor help. If i follow strict diet and lifestyle, basically i no need to jiak medicines at all.

I think most people already past that phase of listen to doctor blindly. Nowadays people question everything.
They even question the law. Those Sovereign type groups.
You trying to tell me this for someone like me who lives in Alberta? Our govt is very anti medical.

If you always recover without doctor help then why you even bother going to Polyclinic? Talk to doctor who you clearly despise as an entire profession for what? You just want to suan them, make life difficult for them is it? Leave them alone lah. You happy can already. Other people want to see doctor take medicine take vaccine is also their choice. Just cos they different from you doesn't mean they are wrong or stupid.

You happy can already!

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/covid-19-alberta-vaccine-task-force-1.7442816

A task force created by the UCP government to review the province's pandemic response has issued its final report and, while it is currently being reviewed by the province, Alberta doctors are pushing back, saying it contains misinformation and poses a threat to public health.

Among the $2-million report's key recommendations are calls for the provincial government to "immediately halt" the use of all COVID-19 vaccines without "full disclosure" of potential risks and to bar healthy children and teenagers from getting COVID shots.

Underpinning the 269-page document are a number of statements — that doctors argue go against medical and scientific consensus — criticizing the use of vaccines and a range of other pandemic protections while recommending doctors be allowed to prescribe alternative medications, including ivermectin.

Calling it "anti-science" and "anti-evidence," the Alberta Medical Association (AMA) claims the document advances misinformation.

"It speaks against the broadest and most diligent international scientific collaboration and consensus in history.… Science and evidence brought us through [the pandemic] and saved millions of lives," AMA president Dr. Shelley Duggan said in a statement.

The task force review was led by Dr. Gary Davidson, the former chief of emergency medicine at the Red Deer Regional Hospital Centre.

During the height of the fourth wave in 2021, Davidson claimed hospital admission numbers were overblown and being manipulated to justify public health restrictions — accusations Alberta Health Services rejected as false.

Calling him a "contrarian," Alberta Premier Danielle Smith last year defended her decision to appoint Davidson, saying the province wanted to hear from more diverse viewpoints.

MLA Eric Bouchard, a United Conservative Party (UCP) politician who represents Calgary-Lougheed, posted news of the report's completion on social media on Friday. He touted the report as bringing Alberta "one step closer to the truth."

In a subsequent post, which received hundreds of "likes" on X, formerly known as Twitter, Bouchard said he is committed to working with Albertans to "ensure that the historical pain caused by the response to COVID-19 does not repeat."

But the document's posting on an Alberta government website has also met with strong criticism from the members of the medical community.

'It's dangerous'​

A former chief medical officer of health for Alberta is pushing back against the report.

"I think it was a waste of time. It was a waste of money. And under no circumstances should the recommendations be implemented until there's been a full and expert public discussion of the report," said Dr. James Talbot, an adjunct professor at the University of Alberta.

Duggan, with the AMA, said she's hearing concerns from colleagues about "deficiencies and biases" in the report and fully agrees with those concerns.

"It's dangerous, frankly, that this report now exists on a government website," said Dr. Braden Manns, a professor of medicine and health economics at the University of Calgary.

"Distrust of public health officials is at an all-time high. This is not going to help."

A child receives a vaccine from a nurse.

One of the COVID task force's more contentious recommendations is to halt the use of COVID-19 vaccines for healthy children and teenagers. (Jae C. Hong/The Associated Press)
The report should be retracted, according to Dr. Lynora Saxinger, an infectious diseases specialist at the University of Alberta Hospital.

"I would classify that as a public health threat. Because I think it actually gives a lot of poor quality information a veneer of respectability and official-ness," she said.

Both Manns and Saxinger were involved in the scientific advisory group, which reviewed emerging evidence as well as national and international guidance and provided recommendations to Alberta Health Services during the worst of the pandemic.

The task force is, at times, critical of the group's work, claiming their rapid turnaround times prevented "a full critical appraisal of the evidence."

Value of vaccines questioned​

The report claims COVID-19 primarily affects the elderly, questions the value of vaccines, and calls on the government to rein in their use.

"[The] task force recommends halting the use of COVID-19 vaccines without full disclosure of their potential risks, ending their use in healthy children and teenagers, conducting further research into their effectiveness, establishing support for vaccine-injured individuals, and providing an opt-out mechanism from federal public health policy," it states.

According to Talbot, the recommendations, if adopted, would take away a parent's right to vaccinate their children as they see fit.

"This is a vaccine that's been given in the billions of doses. It's one of the safest, most effective vaccines we've ever had and yet they're calling into question [its] safety," he said.

The authors point to concerns about the risk of myocarditis in adolescent males and claims there is no long-term safety data for mRNA vaccines in minors.

Dr. Sam Wong, president of the section of pediatrics with the Alberta Medical Association, disagrees with the recommendations. He contends the group cherry-picked its data.

"It's kind of based on bad science and their recommendations are not really what I would consider valid.… If the government follows through on it, then it's bad public health," said Wong.

"The risk of myocarditis … is much higher and much more severe with COVID than than it is with the vaccination."

Manns also refutes numbers in the report.

"The risk of myocarditis is not 50 per cent. It's less than one in a thousand. It generally happens within the first couple doses. It [impacts] younger boys. You have to tailor the vaccinations to the type of individual," he said.

A risk-based approach is already used by the National Advisory Committee on Immunization, said Manns, adding there is solid evidence showing COVID immunizations reduce the risk of severe illness.

Ivermectin discussed​

The report alludes to a lack of transparency during the COVID-19 pandemic and calls for legislative changes that would give doctors more freedom to prescribe "non-traditional" therapies during future pandemics.

Describing Alberta's approach to drugs such as ivermectin as "restrictive," the task force calls for whistleblower protection for doctors who raise concerns about public health measures or so-called "emerging therapies."

Ivermectin is an antiparasitic medication, for both veterinary and human use, that is not authorized for the treatment of COVID-19 in Canada.

"During the COVID-19 pandemic, federal agencies, health service providers and regulators discouraged the use of potentially lifesaving off-label treatments. This approach compromised the well-being of Albertans and violated their right to informed consent," the authors wrote.

Manns has serious concerns about how data on ivermectin is represented in the report and which information is included.

Several studies examining the efficacy of ivermectin during the pandemic have been withdrawn, he said.

"When you then get down to the good studies, unfortunately, ivermectin just didn't work. It didn't work in early COVID. It didn't work in severe COVID," he said.

The report takes aim at regulatory colleges, saying physicians who wanted to treat Albertans with off-label drugs, such as ivermectin, were "subject to disciplinary review."

It calls for changes to the Health Professions Act that would prevent colleges from obstructing the use of such drugs in the future.

When it comes to pandemic-related closures and restrictions, the report claims they did little to prevent transmission and had negative economic and social consequences. It calls for a more balanced approach to future decisions.

The authors argue Alberta put too much emphasis on immunity derived from vaccination rather than immunity acquired through infection, and say the government should be more balanced in its future communication and avoid "coerced vaccination."

Calling for more transparency about pandemic-related decision-making, the report also recommends future decisions related to a public health emergency should be made by the Alberta Emergency Management Agency or an appointed person.

 

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it’s cuz these poor health indicators corelatedc to flu complications

surprised no one has started accusing moh of following globalist agenda, etc

What poor health indicators? Flu complications?
Sorry I dont follow you.
 

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why should i go private? just because u not happy with me? lol

i think u think too much liao.
i am saying this cause TS philosophy is diff from u. he believes in euthanasia.

No lah. Just saying maybe you will be happier going to non conventional medical practitioners.

Those that deal more with natural remedies. Plant medicine. Herbs. Energy flow. Nutrition. Diet. Activity. Spiritual health. Emotional wellness. Holistic.

TS knows that I am pro assistance in dying. He started the thread about how the British Isles just passed the law to allow for it. I posted several articles. Correct? @The_King

https://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/...e-assisted-dying-after-landmark-vote.7114480/

In fact I personally help patient die with assistance myself. (In Canada where it is legal)

I understand what you are saying. But I don't understand why you complain about the polyclinics and doctors for doing their jobs. You may not agree with what they do, but it is what they are supposed to unfortunately. Is like if someone go work for MINDEF and don't agree with NS everytime tell boss should change or scrap NS. Sure get fired right?

I am also an advocate for Medical Cannabis and Psychedelic Assisted Psychotherapy (Ketamine and Psilocybin). Again in Canada where it can be obtained legally.
 
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No lah. Just saying maybe you will be happier going to non conventional medical practitioners.

Those that deal more with natural remedies. Plant medicine. Herbs. Energy flow. Nutrition. Diet. Activity. Spiritual health. Emotional wellness. Holistic.

TS knows that I am pro assistance in dying. He started the thread about how the British Isles just passed the law to allow for it. I posted several articles. Correct? @The_King

In fact I personally help patient die with assistance myself. (In Canada where it is legal)

I understand what you are saying. But I don't understand why you complain about the polyclinics and doctors for doing their jobs. You may not agree with what they do, but it is what they are supposed to unfortunately. Is like if someone go work for MINDEF and don't agree with NS everytime tell boss should change or scrap NS. Sure get fired right?
he got google for ....... video de. he is that extreme. :censored:

there is 1 chinese saying, "can die but cannot get sick in sg."
Maybe u can afford the healthcare costs or lots of time, so endless checkup doesn't hurt u ba.

that $130+ elderly, his medisave dun even have money left to pay his bill.

Got 1 foreign worker super angry and shouting at counter......cause the doctor give him 1 month medicine (change in prescription) instead of 6 month medicines.
Because he need to work.... he dun have the luxury to see doctor every month.

i guess only when u encounter urself, then u will understand what i saying ba. peace~ :(
 
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