Do you find work tough? Or people who don't do well should only blame themselves?

[IAmChiobu12M]

As long as you know what you're doing then there shouldn't be a problem

I don't think I know what I'm doing actually, life is hard.

 

[IAmChiobu12M]

that's why got career line
money line
health line
parents line
love line

go read zwds

When I see first line career line I instant laugh and thought is that line

 

[popdod]

I don't think I know what I'm doing actually, life is hard.

faster go and find a golden turtle

 

[IAmChiobu12M]

faster go and find a golden turtle

You have recommendations?

 

[Encouragesome1]

1. Is it luck? Some people just tend to have good career luck to do well. So right time right place right people etc.

Yea some ppl tend to land better luck. But some is they born into more connected family n have existing relationships that some of us don’t. Some ppl do good job and met their 伯乐and hence their mentor recommend them and they grabbed good opportunities at right time they also nurture such good opportunities and connections and their effects multiply. Many a times a mah see its a combo of few. So those of us ordinary folks need to work extraordinarily hard if we want certain things cos we don’t hv those great head start vs some ppl.

2. Is it capabilities? Some people are just talented and have chance to shine and really deliver what they promised.

Yea I find that kids born to younger twenties parents and wiser parents tend to do better than some of others. Not say not smart ppl don’t hv kids but the chances of a not so smart person or v old parents eg above 35 their kids tend to need more time to learn. Wiser parents meaning the parents will take time to educate n teach their children small little things and children tend to catch values than been taught values. These things tend to affect how a kid perceive his world.

Of course I’m observing some 50-100 kids not say 99999 kids la so it’s over generalisation.

3. Is it just the whole job market/economy not doing well? So everyone are jaded and tired of just being a worker to enrich bosses.

I see siaolang trump upturning world’s economic and political orders .. it’s v volatile and uncertain. But all the chaos also creates opportunities. Sg gdp actually flourished cos ppl worried n grab stocks before things go south. soon US will hv severe shortages in many daily necessities if they don’t stop the craziness abt siaolang tariffs on china products. Other ppl who used to sell so much n been so dependent on us will seek new partners n new destinations to sell to, more trade between China and other countries will flourish in mid to long run more n more.

4. Just behkan, stop complaining and admit you are nobody.

How do y'all navigate work and do y'all find work tough?

Do what I can and if I’m not happy either I choose to ignore or I find new work.
any work got its good and its difficulties. I used to alws try to want to perfect it within my might n span of control end up make everyone upset and mk ownself difficult life. Now I do my best 80%
20% I save and reserve for myself. I think abt what I want to eat at weekend
What I want to watch after 6
What I want to eat after I saved x $
Who’s bday coming and what I’m making for them etc

if something urgent crops up I use my 5-10% fr my personal bandwidth if it helps them… if it doesn’t I just use 1% only.

I never enjoy working no matter which job, from the bottom of my heart I hate the idea we need to be at work just to exchange money and be nothing but a 牛马

But for survival, just have to deal with it yet is been 10 years I'm nowhere near promising and I feel ashamed of myself.

Also, honestly seems like doing well and promoting is really not as easy? Most people around me are also just doing average. (Maybe caz you are who you mix with, so I no chance mingle with people who are doing extremely well

U can try to join toastmasters or calligraphy or meetup .. inside there are all kinds of ppl. 80% of us r ordinary folks 10-20% are extremely doing well .. but we all hv one life
24 h,
We all get sick
Tired and will die one day. Just do our best , don’t regret== good enuf alr

since I belong to behkan)

What y'all think?

I talk straight and ppl dislike n are angry at me so other nicer talking more diplomatic ppl get promoted. I used to feel bad for myself cos I do more
My capacity n competency level is like x3 versus the promoted human but! I don’t speak as well or have a reputation for being as friendly as them. After thinking about it , I’m at peace about my life and I think it’s ok I come for this job description
I achieved & sometimes exceed the requirements they pay me per their promise : ok good enuf !

if I promote I’m happy to be recognised
U don’t recognise me I just do my small 1% I’m ok too

 

[Nevereatrice]

When I see first line career line I instant laugh and thought is that line

i tot this thread about career line

 

[XiaoChilli]

This thread gave me some comfort lol. We should do one edmw version where people share exactly what they had to dealt with to put toxic working a stop. By reading this also make me realised, the whole sg working culture is shxt.

The threads I post on edmw can consolidate and summarize on toxic workplace

 

[coolhead]

This thread gave me some comfort lol. We should do one edmw version where people share exactly what they had to dealt with to put toxic working a stop. By reading this also make me realised, the whole sg working culture is shxt.

Yeh Singapore working culture tend to be quite bad, even local banks. If you can join European/us companies, it tends to be better

 

[IAmChiobu12M]

Yeh Singapore working culture tend to be quite bad, even local banks. If you can join European/us companies, it tends to be better

But if people are still local still about same...

 

[Prime 13]

We are in the thick of Voucher Culture.
Ish a society where in the name of unity those who can are made to carry those who can't.

At the workplace those who can't are installed in jods with authority over those who can.
Sho those who can are forced to carry those who can't.

 

[coolhead]

But if people are still local still about same...

Singaporeans can be moulded quite easily. There are still local nuances but if the company cultivates collaboration, it can help foster positive working vibes among peers and actually disincentivise selfish behaviour coz they stand out like an eyesore.

 

[Ethan_]

一命二运 good enough the rest can throw cos is 人为

九交贵人 i considered it in 一命.

As long as it's 人为, it means it's not the main key factor anymore.

Take for example. CR7 wake up 4am to start training, you cannot meh? It's you want or not. But he taller then you, can jump higher then you, you train how much also cannot change that. That's 一命 to me.

二运 he born at a time where Messi is like his only real rival, if he was born some decades back, he might have just ended up as a very very good player rather then the GOAT many look to him as today.

The above was spoken not as a FS master or knowledgeable person. It's just my layman interpretation. I think i just able to believe that doing direct physical attributable actions is far more reaching to success then.... i dunno, places some colour cystals in a certain way or having to place ur bedroom at a certain angle.

先天不足, 后天努力.

做了不一定会成功, 但是不做肯定不会成功.

努力比不了天赋. 可是没有天赋, 不努力还能做什么呢？

最怕的是有天赋的人还努力, 这种人比不了. 但是努力了会比其他人过的更好.

更可怕的是上天赏饭吃的人, 什么都不做, 都可以过得很好. 不用去比, 不用羡慕, 过好自己的生活就好.

And...

天赋决定起点. 但是努力决定终点. 没天赋, 不努力, 不是天宫仔, 可以做什么, 还能做什么？ 如果不后天做什么, 只能回去洗洗睡觉, 在梦里什么都有.

有天赋的人不一定走到最后, 但是努力的人可以看到后面的路.

 

[Shion]

1. Is it luck? Some people just tend to have good career luck to do well. So right time right place right people etc.

2. Is it capabilities? Some people are just talented and have chance to shine and really deliver what they promised.

3. Is it just the whole job market/economy not doing well? So everyone are jaded and tired of just being a worker to enrich bosses.

4. Just behkan, stop complaining and admit you are nobody.

How do y'all navigate work and do y'all find work tough?

I never enjoy working no matter which job, from the bottom of my heart I hate the idea we need to be at work just to exchange money and be nothing but a 牛马

But for survival, just have to deal with it yet is been 10 years I'm nowhere near promising and I feel ashamed of myself.

Also, honestly seems like doing well and promoting is really not as easy? Most people around me are also just doing average. (Maybe caz you are who you mix with, so I no chance mingle with people who are doing extremely well since I belong to behkan)

What y'all think?

luck.
meet right boss.

10char

 

[IAmChiobu12M]

luck.
meet right boss.

10char

Define right boss. Since right can be subjective to individual.

 

[nujiln]

I’m thankful to have a relatively good job so I don’t find it tough. But I do find it tedious, because so much time is spent working.

If I could maintain my current lifestyle without working I definitely would choose not to work. Alas, am only a peasant so must keep farming for now.

 

[nujiln]

Define right boss. Since right can be subjective to individual.

In my own experience, a right boss is someone you can vibe with. The person will groom you and help you gain visibility while in the same organisation. More importantly, the person will remember you and refer you for better jobs in the future. So it’s good to never burn bridges and maintain good relationships

 

[Ethan_]

I’m thankful to have a relatively good job so I don’t find it tough. But I do find it tedious, because so much time is spent working.

If I could maintain my current lifestyle without working I definitely would choose not to work. Alas, am only a peasant so must keep farming for now.

Think nobody is born equal. Some have more, most have less. If 先天不足, then 后天扑救. But the latter something have to give. And most ordinary people tend have to sacrifice more to make up for that shortfall. If insist on maintaining a certain level of things, given the lack of by nature. Then have to work harder than others to make up for it and make more sacrifices to maintain it. Cannot have the cake and eat it. 普通人的命就是这样.

 

[lampano]

Good luck and opportunities comes with good networking.

One just need break out of his typical failure thinking habits and good things will come.

It's just like how the poor always gets stuck being poor til one can change mindset and breakout rather than blame on family / luck.

 

[ramlee]

I admit I beh kan……I’m just getting by….

better than me. i can't even get by

 

[ramlee]

For the first few years of moi career, i work like a dog, daily 12h as a software engr to deliver projs after projs

Do until i numb until year 8 then i became a team lead, then can chill abit

So..

you no need to tank the shiat created by your underlings?