Gaming Keyboard and Controller Latency

[Yongkit]

@Yongkit

Try this https://github.com/chrizonix/XInputTest for xinput controllers

My pro 2 is around 10ms wired.


27ms wireless after filtering out the fillers, on wireless the result is weird.
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this is my 8bitdo ultimate wired, i think the results depends on how fast we turn the left sticks:

 

[Yongkit]

On the other hand, I found a Redditor that reported 4ms - 8ms for the 8bitdo Ultimate Bluetooth in 2.4GHz mode.

this is very promising latency polling rate

 

[Yongkit]

Is this considered good or bad? It says average is 2.07ms.

Am using PS5 DualSense controller with DS4Windows running at Bluetooth 1000Hz polling rate.

wow fast and close to 500Hz polling rate

 

[Phen8210]

Is this considered good or bad? It says average is 2.07ms.

Am using PS5 DualSense controller with DS4Windows running at Bluetooth 1000Hz polling rate.

good, dualsense has the best wireless, its unbeatable

maybe u change to 500 see the results better or worse, because it cannot run really at 1000

 

[Phen8210]

this is my 8bitdo ultimate wired, i think the results depends on how fast we turn the left sticks:

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As long as it's moving it will take a reading, no need very fast.

3.9x seems the same as the vid

 

[Yongkit]

got my keyboard 1 day earlier than expected

 

[Yongkit]

After an hour play for mw2 i can confirmed this keyboard is so much better than my strix ROG Scope I can dodge bullet so much faster and turn back to counter shoot which my ROG Scope keyboard like dragging the leg and cannot run once hit by first bullets.

 

[Mach3.2]

After an hour play for mw2 i can confirmed this keyboard is so much better than my strix ROG Scope I can dodge bullet so much faster and turn back to counter shoot which my ROG Scope keyboard like dragging the leg and cannot run once hit by first bullets.

become more sweaty :O

 

[Yongkit]

https://danluu.com/keyboard-latency...00Hz Polling Rate, 0.001 Second Response Time
an interesting article on Keyboard Latency

 

[Phen8210]

After an hour play for mw2 i can confirmed this keyboard is so much better than my strix ROG Scope I can dodge bullet so much faster and turn back to counter shoot which my ROG Scope keyboard like dragging the leg and cannot run once hit by first bullets.

yeah cos u got hit by more bullets due to the delay and it slow you down more

 

[Yongkit]

just try the keyboard latency test for fun and manage to get 1ms 1000Hz

Take these calculations with a grain of salt

 

[tsteo77]

So is this cosair mini rgb keyboard

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just try the keyboard latency test for fun and manage to get 1ms 1000Hz

Take these calculations with a grain of salt

So does this cosair mini rgb gaming keyboard meet your gaming need ?
How about your search/recommendation/comment for best performance gamepad ?
I'm currently using logictech f310 and sony dualshock 3 gamepad and i only use gamepad to play on pc.
Keyboard has too many buttons, don't have good memory.

 

[Yongkit]

So is this cosair mini rgb keyboard

So does this cosair mini rgb gaming keyboard meet your gaming need ?
How about your search/recommendation/comment for best performance gamepad ?
I'm currently using logictech f310 and sony dualshock 3 gamepad and i only use gamepad to play on pc.
Keyboard has too many buttons, don't have good memory.

Yes the keyboard meet meet my "gaming" requirements

Spoiler: K65 mini + ROG Harpe Ace

For gamepad I still recommend for the 8bitdo ultimate for price to performance

8Bitdo Ultimate Wired Controller for Xbox Series X, Xbox Series S, Xbox One, Windows 10 & Windows 11 - Officially Licensed (Black) https://amzn.asia/d/eDqHnyz

 

[Yongkit]

become more sweaty :O

Last night was crazy matchmaking few games I play keep fighting with player 200++ level while my casual novice skills only level 10.

I don't play much multiplayer previously because my old keyboard just can't keep up last time.

 

[Phen8210]

I'm currently using logictech f310 and sony dualshock 3 gamepad and i only use gamepad to play on pc.
Keyboard has too many buttons, don't have good memory.

try play gameboy, only got a & b + d-pad

 

[Yongkit]

On the other hand, I found a Redditor that reported 4ms - 8ms for the 8bitdo Ultimate Bluetooth in 2.4GHz mode.

Hopefully this informative for your consideration

 

[Phen8210]

Hopefully this informative for your consideration

While it has Hall Effect joysticks n decent latency with 2.4GHz.

The D-Pad has accuracy problems, so I'm skipping.
https://shmups.system11.org/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=71082
Same report here


My 8bitdo Pro 2 also has d-pad accuracy problems.

For games that use D-PAD as the main control, reviewers need to test for ghosting and also diagonals. But many of them just press the button on the d-pad a few times n claim "feel good" "very good d-pad" .

Good my ass

 

[ronnie_gogs]

There is travel time which is 2 in case of a mechanical switch, actuation force needed to actuate a switch which is mid way and then bottom out the switch. Since we talking in milliseconds here. Wouldn't a better test be to hook a oscilloscope or logic analyzer to the switch and the USB connector in the end. How long before a switch is pressed and actuated to USB connector at the end getting a signal.

The delay due to keyboard PCB processing the signal should be the main concern.

 

[Yongkit]

There is travel time which is 2 in case of a mechanical switch, actuation force needed to actuate a switch which is mid way and then bottom out the switch. Since we talking in milliseconds here. Wouldn't a better test be to hook a oscilloscope or logic analyzer to the switch and the USB connector in the end. How long before a switch is pressed and actuated to USB connector at the end getting a signal.

The delay due to keyboard PCB processing the signal should be the main concern.

https://www.rtings.com/discussions/Ci5CpCatqyovgoeC/key-release-latency
I think this is what they do for now.

 

[elmariachi]

There is travel time which is 2 in case of a mechanical switch, actuation force needed to actuate a switch which is mid way and then bottom out the switch. Since we talking in milliseconds here. Wouldn't a better test be to hook a oscilloscope or logic analyzer to the switch and the USB connector in the end. How long before a switch is pressed and actuated to USB connector at the end getting a signal.

The delay due to keyboard PCB processing the signal should be the main concern.

You are spot on with this. With my wooting 60he, it wasn't the actuation point that made it feel faster. It is the fact that the reset point is the moment you lift your finger off the key. They call it rapid trigger. So you don't need it to actually go back to the reset point like normal switches making the keyboard feel faster. I myself do not set my actuation point too low as I tend to rest my fingers on the main keys during gaming and it's very easy to actuate them. What's most helpful is the reset point when you lift your finger off and it resets immediately without needing a certain travel point to reset.