[GE2025] PSP Discussion thread

cyke69sg

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OTOH, Canada’s opposition bollivare or something lost his seat which kind of shocked me cos I thought he was very good and popular
Canada federal politics is a joke.

I have never heard of leader of a party lose his own seat in parliament but the party supposedly did better in the elections.

It is a disgrace that Pollievre lost his own riding. Ridiculous.

Conservatives tend to say one thing mean another. Pollievre himself talk a lot of rubbish in his speech after the election. How he will fight for the single mother with no food in her fridge. Since when cons about that? They are about cutting taxes for elites and business corporations.

I have learned their true colors.

Canada federal politics is decided by Quebec and Ontario. The rest no need vote also can.

Canada also got provincial and municipal elections. I would say that provincial elections more important than federal.
 

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it is not a bad result at 39.99% , considering the jurong west addition which the electorate department would have analyzed which part to cut to maximize PAP votes.
39.99 is still a lousy result. But at least it shows that PSP is not a mosquito party. But after TCB retires, it might just be.
 

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Too confrontational also... talk something untrue up there... then take down FB posts.. apologise.. cycle repeats

Is this their strategy ?

SG really doesn't deserves this kinda oppos ! No standard
 

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Like what I say in my third post in the thread on Nomination Day. Goodbye to LMW and Hazel Poa. We would always remember both of you.

I hope PSP can still be around after TCB retired. If become another mosquitoe party, please disband and let SDP take the lead. WP won't go West so West can only depend on SDP.
 

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Good, peasants voted out one of the few ppl who would bring up the citizens problems to parliament.

Now almost no one there. MIW is free to pass ridiculous motions & law to f**k up peasants life even more.

Congrats!
 

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it is not a bad result at 39.99% , considering the jurong west addition which the electorate department would have analyzed which part to cut to maximize PAP votes.
but still went from a near margin win in 2020 to a 10% decrease in 2025 is really sad despite having JW in their elected area
 

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Like what I say in my third post in the thread on Nomination Day. Goodbye to LMW and Hazel Poa. We would always remember both of you.

I hope PSP can still be around after TCB retired. If become another mosquitoe party, please disband and let SDP take the lead. WP won't go West so West can only depend on SDP.
psps bring CSJ in 😂
 

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say so many so many times liao
the Singapore West demographics is not like the west in TCB years
entire singapore west is filled with economic refugee new citizens and their Sink spouse and children
these people only care about not rocking their boat so they can retire back in their own third world country like kings and queens.
 

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My prediction is that they will self-destruct.
And become one of the smaller party like PPP.
There is no need to wake up sinkie any more.
WP ?
I think they are just wing man for the other side.
end up become like NSP. from 43% in tampines in 2011 to 0% in 2025 lol
 

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did sinkies really voted for petty gains like cdc voucher and $1 deals? lol.

that's why edmw-ers are shocked by the results, good jobs and good income made the COL/Higher BTO prices a non-issue bah.
edmwers are mostly middle class with a handful in the upper middle,
hence got time to pcw and jjww

there are no impoverished in edmw who cannot make ends meet,
they cannot understand those who vote based on cdc vouchers and $1 meals

edmw is just a segment of society who kpkb about unfair job market, exorbitant COE and high housing prices,
it is not representative of the whole population
 

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After last night's results, I think its the beginning of the end for PSP. Maybe they won't even be around next GE.

Redrawing of boundaries aside, I feel PSP also made quite a lot of mistakes this time. I don't think placing hazel, lmw and tcb in a SMC would have helped given the boundary changes. Also, those middle class voters are probably on holiday, which would have helped but would still not give PSP any wins.

Here are the mistakes from this GE

1. Not showing their younger high potential candidates enough
Stephanie Tan shows alot of potential, and more coverage whether marketing or social media would have helped change the image that PSP is becoming more professional. There may be more good young candidates but all overshadowed by your old people.

2. Not booking a stadium for the results announcement
There were so many questions why PSP didnt book stadium before the votes were cast. This gave the impression that PSP themselves gave up the fight already before it even started. Whoever decided not to book the stadium better explain themselves properly to the CEC.

3. Not enough rallies, not enough catchphrases, not charismatic enough.
Believe it or not, politics is also about soundbytes. You guys can learn from independent candidate Jeremy Tan. Even this guy got his "full time pay, part time job" catchphrase that people like. You need things to become viral to get swing voters like women votes. I have a few female friends that vote for PAP because of funny reasons like taskforceman is trending, or because lawrence wong's wife is pretty, or that cai yinzou is good looking. In fact, Jamus likely won Sengkang because of his "no blank cheque" statement.

4. Leon Perrera should not be seen so openly. He is a liability for PSP's image.
Big mistake having Leon as emcee in the PSP rally. Just ban him from being seen until PSP gains at least 1 seat in parliament. If it will even be around by then.

5. Image problem as anti foreigner party
PSP needs to learn how to be Pro SG first/Pro fairness without looking like anti foreigners, because like it or not you also need to attract this group of leechers. That's probably why WP is looking more and more like PAP-lite. They also know the demographics of this group will increase.

6. The west has a lot of new citizens, old people, and poor people
For new citizens, the people living here are likely ex-malaysians who work in tuas up to CBD etc. They like to compare PAP with whatever govt is running malaysia, thats why they don't really care if NTUC almost got sold and tbh they don't even want to know. They just want to game the system so that their friends and family can come to SG for personal benefits. I have had ex colleagues who are new citizens that keep receiving messages from their relatives telling them that oppositions are all anti foreigners and to vote for incumbent to bring more of their friends and family in. I think someone in edmw talk about xiaohongshu? How can PSP attract this people while avoiding the potential smearing by ruling party?

Old people, no need to say. Their whole sorry lives they only know PAP. They got not much struggles since their flats already fully paid and they probably retired.

Those poor people, believe it or not, live hand to mouth or "voucher to voucher" like some mosquito party says. This group of people will keep going meet the peoples session to waive things and ask for help and this creates some sort of master-servant reliance. Naturally you would be afraid that all your help received will disappear once an opposition takes over.

7. Never walk the ground enough
I know the boundary changed and it was uphill to begin with, as there was not enough time. But this also led to the outcome because you need to walk the ground to engage voters, especially old people who don't consume social media and even news. And another problem is, where else can you walk? You guys are all surrounded by PAP strongholds.

Here are the challenges

1. PSP is facing an image problem that will become worse after Dr Tan's retirement
PSP was always known as an old people or pensioners party. After Dr Tan retires, is there enough new blood to change its image?

2. PSP contested areas are surrounded by PAP high margin win areas.
"You look left, look right", if the electoral boundaries are redrawn again, you guys are gonna lose even more. Next time where can west coast redraw? what if its Tanjong pagar? Or if they redraw to include the area in jurong with Ong Ye Kung's cousin? This is a serious problem and one of the reasons why even WP don't even dare to touch the west. There's too much ground to cover and all are high margin PAP wins.

3. Leadership renewal and talent pool
After TCB, who can continue running PSP? LMW and Hazel no longer have the "mandate" as NCMP in the party. And you guys need more lawyers. And when I say lawyers, I mean those that can articulate and speak well, not the gho sze kee type. Sinkie are suckers for lawyers cos they speak well and cos its deemed as someone successful in life.

What u can improve

1. Branding
Get some consultants and change your image to look more professional like WP. Sinkies are suckers for branding and image. Get on with the times. Low Thia Kiang's ground up success cannot be replicated in 2025. You need more Stephanie Tans in your party. If you can get more guys of the same calibre like that independent candidate Jeremy Tan, I think it would help also.

Your old people also need to look less like old people and more like professionals. Sadly, alot of mosquito parties candidates look like old coffeeshop uncles, which PSP also has.

2. Get rid of the image that PSP is anti foreigner
PSP needs to strike a balance by being pro-fairness (meaning fighting against discrimination of singaporeans) while not turning new citizens away. Like it or not, you need these people to vote for you. Eventually the children of new citizens might face the same problem as sinkies anyway.

Silver lining, existential crisis
1. PSP did very badly this GE, but at least your results showed voters that you guys are not in the "mosquito party" league. But after TCB retires, which is quite soon, PSP might just end up as one.

@charleslee1989 that's what I can think of right now.


Exactly! All the points....are on point.
Now to see if PSP is receptive towards logical ideas/suggestions from outside their own party, or resitant to changes.
 

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edmwers are mostly middle class with a handful in the upper middle,
hence got time to pcw and jjww

there are no impoverished in edmw who cannot make ends meet,
they cannot understand those who vote based on cdc vouchers and $1 meals

edmw is just a segment of society who kpkb about unfair job market, exorbitant COE and high housing prices,
it is not representative of the whole population

as shown since 2015.
 

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Good, peasants voted out one of the few ppl who would bring up the citizens problems to parliament.

Now almost no one there. MIW is free to pass ridiculous motions & law to f**k up peasants life even more.

Congrats!
SGreans going to get richer. Congrats
 

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our parliament lost hazel poa and LMW. and this is significant.

on the flip side, hazel and hubby can concentrate more on being foster parents.

i have doubts LMW might run next GE.

without TCB around anymore, the party has high chance of losing direction and being dissolved.
 

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TCB should have contested in SMC in 2020 to get the party a step foot into the parliament first. The initial strategic planning in 2020 had been a disaster. I think TCB highly overestimated his influence in the GRC-level election. He is not LKY, LHL, or other high-profile SG leaders who can cover other political newbies and carry them into the parliament.
TCB still trying to play a gentleman's game in politics. You can't do that in the modern era. Each loss will discourage their future talent pool from joining PSP.
 

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To be honest, when you already lose hope, do you still press on and serve the residents ?
I am watching CSJ speech.
He is really very sian liao.


i think he cried


fought for over 30 years, kena sued, jailed but still haven't entered parliament. is this resilience or kumgong? pap gerrymandered gao gao but he still fight
 

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i think he cried


fought for over 30 years, kena sued, jailed but still haven't entered parliament. is this resilience or kumgong? pap gerrymandered gao gao but he still fight
I dunno whether there is any kelong.
He should be NCMP.
Somehow, they left it in the last min to kill his hope.
 
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