[GE2025] PSP Discussion thread

Irenicis

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Myself I personally feel that I don't need or want to support opposition parties anymore.

Disappointment after disappointment - I think better to just watch after my own personal interest instead of national interest. Will back the PAP from now on.
 

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Populist plan only cater to a small group of citizens. Give extremist plans without providing how is not going to win votes.
 

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Frankly, most of the opposition parties have lost touch with their people except WP.

That is the hard truth.

:ninja: :unsure:
Losing is just the beginning and winning is for tomorrow.
WP got seats in the parliament, other opposition got dream in the parliament which is 2 different story.
 

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West Coast GRC lineup is weak apart from the 3 big players.

They shouldnt even campaign.... too many boomer volunteers in their walkabout.. the young actually felt more certain not to vote for them after they do walkabout... a bunch of elderly men shouting psp at tengah plantation plaza and giving out flyers...

And then the psp vs pap shoutout at pioneer north coffee shop... look like lao ah pek party..

Worst of all is asking leong to resign saying he take responsibility for his words... and then asking leong to come back as secretary general after getting hazel to do one year of caretaker secretary general...
 

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@Hiling care laid out a very comprehensive list of PSP's perceived problems, and many commenters here hit the nail on the head regarding the image issues ("Lao Lang party"), the need for younger faces (like Stephanie Tan), the TCB succession question, and the tough ground in the West. The points about messaging (soundbytes, balancing pro-SG vs anti-foreigner perception) and questionable tactics (rallies, Leon Perera visibility) are also hard to ignore.

Agree with much of the external diagnosis. But maybe adding another layer: Could a core issue be internal capability and resource constraints that observers don't easily see?

  1. Beyond Candidates - Need Organisers & Policy Wonks: Everyone talks about needing good candidates (speakers, lawyers etc.). But running a serious party also needs strong organisers behind the scenes (like WP seems to have built over decades) to manage branches, volunteers, logistics, ground ops. It also needs policy depth – people who can actually research and craft credible alternative policies beyond just criticising. Does PSP have enough of these types of people, not just front-facing candidates? Attracting and retaining this operational talent is tough, maybe tougher than finding speakers.
  2. Money Talks (or Lack Thereof): @Mancunian2 mentioned the cost (#15). Professional branding consultants (#1 suggests) cost serious money. Sustained ground campaigns cost money (pamphlets, logistics - #26, #39). Building a parallel community network like WP's (#49) requires significant, consistent funding. Is PSP realistically funded to compete on these fronts, especially without parliamentary seats bringing in resources or visibility? This might explain why some efforts look under-resourced or "amateurish" compared to PAP or even WP.
  3. Defining the "Why": Beyond just being "not PAP" or "TCB's party," what is PSP's core, distinct ideology or long-term vision that will attract talent and voters after TCB? WP has carved out its niche. SDP has its (sometimes debated) ideological stance. What fundamental problem is PSP uniquely positioned to solve for Singaporeans in the long run? Maybe the "existential crisis" is less about specific mistakes and more about defining this core identity and building the internal machinery to sustain it.
So, while fixing the external image and getting the tactics right is crucial, perhaps the even bigger challenge is building that less visible internal capacity – the organisers, the policy team, the sustainable funding model, and a clear post-TCB ideological core. Without that foundation, just changing the paint job might not be enough long term.
 

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Haha maybe he is in shock lol.
In shock is okay, dunno whether in denial or not.
West Coast GRC lineup is weak apart from the 3 big players.

They shouldnt even campaign.... too many boomer volunteers in their walkabout.. the young actually felt more certain not to vote for them after they do walkabout... a bunch of elderly men shouting psp at tengah plantation plaza and giving out flyers...

And then the psp vs pap shoutout at pioneer north coffee shop... look like lao ah pek party..

Worst of all is asking leong to resign saying he take responsibility for his words... and then asking leong to come back as secretary general after getting hazel to do one year of caretaker secretary general...
Yes they need more young people and less boomers. Even their volunteers give me the impression that they are boomers. The party is finished real soon if they cannot find young blood fast.

Don't know if young people will be drawn to even want to join the party with the average age being so high. I think only those stephanie tan type can draw youngsters of her age grp to join.
 

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West Coast GRC lineup is weak apart from the 3 big players.

They shouldnt even campaign.... too many boomer volunteers in their walkabout.. the young actually felt more certain not to vote for them after they do walkabout... a bunch of elderly men shouting psp at tengah plantation plaza and giving out flyers...

And then the psp vs pap shoutout at pioneer north coffee shop... look like lao ah pek party..

Worst of all is asking leong to resign saying he take responsibility for his words... and then asking leong to come back as secretary general after getting hazel to do one year of caretaker secretary general...
also bad optics to ask hazel’s husband tony to be candidate, shows that psp unable to find fresh blood
 

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LMW should be posted to Jalan Kayu to challenge NCM.
WP should back off send Andre Low somewhere else.
If so, NCM would have lost Jalan Kayu to LMW. Maybe NCM 40% LMW 57%.

Andre Low already so broken after his foul mouth rants exposed by back stabbing friends.
Still can get 48% of votes.

It means Opp can send almost anyone else there and beat NCM.
Not so easy one. Next election Jalan kayu will be part of amk grc. Sianz
 

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@Hiling care laid out a very comprehensive list of PSP's perceived problems, and many commenters here hit the nail on the head regarding the image issues ("Lao Lang party"), the need for younger faces (like Stephanie Tan), the TCB succession question, and the tough ground in the West. The points about messaging (soundbytes, balancing pro-SG vs anti-foreigner perception) and questionable tactics (rallies, Leon Perera visibility) are also hard to ignore.

Agree with much of the external diagnosis. But maybe adding another layer: Could a core issue be internal capability and resource constraints that observers don't easily see?

  1. Beyond Candidates - Need Organisers & Policy Wonks: Everyone talks about needing good candidates (speakers, lawyers etc.). But running a serious party also needs strong organisers behind the scenes (like WP seems to have built over decades) to manage branches, volunteers, logistics, ground ops. It also needs policy depth – people who can actually research and craft credible alternative policies beyond just criticising. Does PSP have enough of these types of people, not just front-facing candidates? Attracting and retaining this operational talent is tough, maybe tougher than finding speakers.
  2. Money Talks (or Lack Thereof): @Mancunian2 mentioned the cost (#15). Professional branding consultants (#1 suggests) cost serious money. Sustained ground campaigns cost money (pamphlets, logistics - #26, #39). Building a parallel community network like WP's (#49) requires significant, consistent funding. Is PSP realistically funded to compete on these fronts, especially without parliamentary seats bringing in resources or visibility? This might explain why some efforts look under-resourced or "amateurish" compared to PAP or even WP.
  3. Defining the "Why": Beyond just being "not PAP" or "TCB's party," what is PSP's core, distinct ideology or long-term vision that will attract talent and voters after TCB? WP has carved out its niche. SDP has its (sometimes debated) ideological stance. What fundamental problem is PSP uniquely positioned to solve for Singaporeans in the long run? Maybe the "existential crisis" is less about specific mistakes and more about defining this core identity and building the internal machinery to sustain it.
So, while fixing the external image and getting the tactics right is crucial, perhaps the even bigger challenge is building that less visible internal capacity – the organisers, the policy team, the sustainable funding model, and a clear post-TCB ideological core. Without that foundation, just changing the paint job might not be enough long term.
Personally I think PSP got no shortage of back end support people.

Funding aside I don't know, but they should have a lot of old people helping behind the scenes. They just cannot attract the young charismatic speaking candidates.
 

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WP in 2001 was even worse, that time JBJ was still leader and he got sued until bankrupt thus giving up his NCMP seat.

He urgently need to conduct party renewal liao, last GE PSP got a lot of new young candidates.

Hearsay he fielded a lot last GE is simply to test grounds to see which GRC/SMCs to tackle this GE.

He needs to either pump it more funds and then bring in new blood into the CEC.

SDP needs to urgently reform also, CSJ got close to 47% despite heavy gerrymandering shows that his work is somewhat of a success thus far.

Actually NCMP is a double-edged sword, you like Lina Chiam inside the parliament in the end performance not good then SPP went downhills after that.

Plus the pay is low and extremely time-consuming. Better to focus on his F&B Biz then use some of the money to inject into SDP. Then clear out all the deadweight like Gigene Wong out.

Also, he not young should spend more time with his wife who sacrificed a lot over the years as well.
even if csj can get in , he be like cst and solo parliament for x years. maybe its time that csj run as independant, probly will be better. without all the siao lang weighing him down.
 

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Personally I think PSP got no shortage of back end support people.

Funding aside I don't know, but they should have a lot of old people helping behind the scenes. They just cannot attract the young charismatic speaking candidates.

Politics is all about looking good & speaking well. No one knows actual work ability cos no actual work is being done yet. So it's all about image

They need to field some good looking young professionals who are good at public speaking
 

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It’s true. TCB is the one carrying hazel and LMw. The lattter 2 are not natural politicians. They need someone more charismatic to helm the party. Otherwise risk becoming another SPP or NSP
not true. i actually like lmw n hazel. they got the resilent and never say die attitude for their ideals & actually comes with solid plans n data to back up what they say.

tcb is a overuse mascot. i move in from the east side (tpy) when i'm young ( & i'm gen x) my parents n i dont know him at all.

the sentimental thing dun appeal to me , same can be said for any new residents, & there is a lot of new citizen in the west side.

with new bto in nanyang, there will only be more younger crowd too.
 

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Not really leh. U see the SMCs around PSP's contested areas are all very high margin PAP wins.

The entirety of the west is like that, there is no pathway for PSP to secure even a SMC. Look left look right also gg.

Placing either TCB, LMW or Hazel would have failed also.
Main reason is psp dun have proven record in running TC yet similar to other oppositions except WP.They will always be less favoured compared to WP.
 

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【GE2025】政治观察家:全军覆没陈清木也退下 前进党下来恐走向没落​


https://www.zaobao.com.sg/news/singapore/story20250504-6287917

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前进党取消记者会后,多名参选人乘电梯离开党总部。他们是党主席陈清木医生(右二)、邱宝忠(右一)、陈芬妮(背对镜头)、萨尼(左二)、潘群勤(左一)和陈礼添。 (陈斌勤摄)

新加坡前进党本届大选全军覆没,受访政治观察家认为,前进党在国会中的表达方式和传达的信息未获选民认可,而随着党主席陈清木医生退下,前进党接下来恐怕走向没落。

前进党本届大选出征六个选区。由陈清木领军并包括两名原非选区议员潘群勤和梁文辉的“最强团队”出征西海岸—裕廊西集选区,获得39.99%选票,败给行动党团队。前进党出征的另外五个选区,得票率则介于24.17%到36.41%。

新加坡管理大学杨邦孝法学院副教授陈庆文受访时分析,前进党的表现不尽理想,可能因为他们在国会中的表达方式和传达的信息不获选民认可。

他指出,前进党提出的一些政策替代方案可能让国人觉得过于激进,例如设定最低工资、以更低成本建造组屋提案,在缺乏详情和数据支撑的情况下,可能让选民觉得不值得信任,尤其缺乏财政上的可持续性。

“陈清木牌”未奏效 反映选民不易被情感影响​

85岁的陈清木是最后一次参选,此前有舆论认为,选民可能因此更倾向投票支持他,但这最终并未实现。陈庆文指出,“陈清木牌”没有奏效,反映出新加坡选民不容易被受情感因素影响。

行动党前国会议员殷吉星同样认为,“陈清木效应”正在逐渐减弱,因为年轻选民对他的认识并不及年长选民深入。

南洋理工大学拉惹勒南国际研究院高级研究员张嘉松则将前进党在西海岸—裕廊西集选区落败的主因,归咎于选区范围的变化。

学者:选区范围变化 也可能是落败原因之一​

前进党上届大选出征西海岸集选区并以微差落败,该选区在本届大选中,部分范围划入丹戎巴葛集选区,再与原属裕廊集选区的裕廊西和达曼裕廊区合并,成为西海岸—裕廊西集选区。

张嘉松分析,裕廊集选区此前由高人气、时任国务资政的尚达曼总统领军,这些地区的选民或许仍然记得尚达曼对新加坡的贡献,因而继续支持行动党。他认为,前进党的落败可能是出于选民对当前经济不确定性的担忧,加上选区重新划分所致。

本次大选,前进党候选人不在反对党落选者得票率最高两人之列,原本由潘群勤和梁文辉担任的两个非选区议员席位将由工人党人填补,这意味着前进党将不会在国会有任何议席。

殷吉星说:“随着陈清木医生退下,我认为前进党恐怕将走向没落。我们可能在不久后看到新加坡进入两党局面,而其他政党将难以获得足够的支持。”

前进党原定开票夜晚上11时举行记者会,但在10时59分临时宣布取消。梁文辉也透露,该党不会再发布任何文告,近期也不会有公开活动。

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新加坡前进党秘书长梁文辉离开党总部前,对记者表示不会再发布任何文告,前进党近期也不会有公开活动。(陈斌勤摄)
 
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