[GE2025] PSP Discussion thread

[charleslee1989]

yes

Assuming I push the GST to 10% but increase the funding for fertility treatment for females who wants to be mothers, is it still populism??


As for your original point, isn't giving handouts not once but twice considered as populism as well?

 

[Hot_Dog]

Assuming I push the GST to 10% but increase the funding for fertility treatment for females who wants to be mothers, is it still populism??

Nope, as long as there ish a proper source of funding. Another way would be to cut other areas of spending.

As for your original point, isn't giving handouts not once but twice considered as populism as well?

Chiu mean the GSTV and AP-cash? Already say riao ma, its funded by the GST increase, long term.

 

[MaskedRider555]

the manifesto ish a waste of time...wonder how many people read

 

[charleslee1989]

Nope, as long as there ish a proper source of funding. Another way would be to cut other areas of spending.

Chiu mean the GSTV and AP-cash? Already say riao ma, its funded by the GST increase, long term.

No wor.....GST increase also needed to fund the burgeoning healthcare costs also like what OYK said....

If I say to do a 5 man DOGE style department to augment the auditor general office, will chiu vote for me??

 

[Hot_Dog]

No wor.....GST increase also needed to fund the burgeoning healthcare costs also like what OYK said....

If I say to do a 5 man DOGE style department to augment the auditor general office, will chiu vote for me??

Moi just trying to help chiu see the PAP position. When it comes to moni, PAP ish not anyhow huan.

 

[caipngzuibang]

PAP spend is okay

Opposition party spend is raiding reserve

the narrative is as such, WP in GE2025 did not push any populist policy

lim team's free stuff also contributed to the general distaste to populist policy

This. I feel that people in general do not associate giving money with a good policy. I think even though it may in fact be a good policy, it doesn't come across well because it's hypothetical and people see it as reckless spending vs the status quo, so it doesn't give a good impression. Example: A party proposes free education, but reactions are "why free? where's the money going to come from? the current payment system works well already, i'm happy with it"
As for vouchers etc, these have already happened, and receiving $ feels good, so they won't even think about these thoughts or concerns.
My thoughts.

@charleslee1989

 

[StoicGuy]

PSP should just elect Stephanie as secretary general and put in fresh look.

Position ownself as central left.

Create a volunteerism environment with youth.

First time voters are evenly spread. and PAP does not have much advantage due to their elitism platform.

This is worth the ground to contest on...

 

[sg-united]

Move on.... election is over.

Honestly after this terrible defeat, there is no point for PSP to continue. It is time to dissolve and get back to normal life.

Let WP, the only opposition force to start east conquer first. It will take them at least 20-30 years to conquer the east of Singapore. WP does not have the resources to contest in all constituencies. This is the fact.

For the West, North, South and Central of Singapore, just walk over. There is no need to contest because nobody will be able to defeat the MIW in these areas. They are just too strong.

 

[letonzy]

psp mention 20k of their voters were removed. gov put in new 35k voters from their pool and spread over a bigger area. who ever contest sure lose one lah.

 

[charleslee1989]

Moi just trying to help chiu see the PAP position. When it comes to moni, PAP ish not anyhow huan.

This. I feel that people in general do not associate giving money with a good policy. I think even though it may in fact be a good policy, it doesn't come across well because it's hypothetical and people see it as reckless spending vs the status quo, so it doesn't give a good impression. Example: A party proposes free education, but reactions are "why free? where's the money going to come from? the current payment system works well already, i'm happy with it"
As for vouchers etc, these have already happened, and receiving $ feels good, so they won't even think about these thoughts or concerns.
My thoughts.

@charleslee1989

I personally appreciate greatly on both of your inputs.....

 

[charleslee1989]

PSP should just elect Stephanie as secretary general and put in fresh look.

Position ownself as central left.

Create a volunteerism environment with youth.

First time voters are evenly spread. and PAP does not have much advantage due to their elitism platform.

This is worth the ground to contest on...

Interesting take!

 

[StoicGuy]

Interesting take!

PSP should do a SWOT analysis.

Then target first time voters.

Youth in 16-20. What do they see in Singapore politics. What do they want?

Are they more involved or just follow parent?

Do they want to be more engaged?

 

[OddEye]

Anything good for people is populist then. Would that mean cdc vouchers are populist? End of day government policies some will benefit majority, some a small group and most that will cost money that needs to pull from taxes or revenue

 

[OddEye]

I think the core ideal of the party must not be forgotten. And it must distinguish itself from all parties in Singapore including WP and pap. An identity as they say. The identity now is just grandpa tan which I feel is not right

 

[Jurong640]

PSP should do a SWOT analysis.

Then target first time voters.

Youth in 16-20. What do they see in Singapore politics. What do they want?

Are they more involved or just follow parent?

Do they want to be more engaged?

Did a SWOT analysis using ChatGPT:

Above is automatically generated by ChatGPT

 

[Krabs.]

those plans are too "far into the future"

sinkies only care about cdc voucher that immediately fill their stomach , kitchen cabinet and fridge

Look at the number of citizens qualified for august gst cash voucher , with the income limit
This big chunk of society are low capability , therefore $300 $850 handout or $300 voucher is relatively a big deal to them , over a future plan that is data-driven and require imagination and hope
Low capability folks cannot digest data or remember who caused what scandal
Mindset is a bird in hand is better than 2 in the bush

 

[charleslee1989]

PSP should do a SWOT analysis.

Then target first time voters.

Youth in 16-20. What do they see in Singapore politics. What do they want?

Are they more involved or just follow parent?

Do they want to be more engaged?

good take!

those plans are too "far into the future"

sinkies only care about cdc voucher that immediately fill their stomach , kitchen cabinet and fridge

Look at the number of citizens qualified for august gst cash voucher , with the income limit
This big chunk of society are low capability , therefore $300 $850 handout or $300 voucher is relatively a big deal to them , over a future plan that is data-driven and require imagination and hope
Low capability folks cannot digest data or remember who caused what scandal
Mindset is a bird in hand is better than 2 in the bush

yeah....it is especially prevalent in older estates like those in TJ, BL and JS.......

 

[angelichound]

boon lay being carved out as SMC is interesting

the rental flat there is substantial and they heavily rely on govt initiatives to get by

 

[Jurong640]

boon lay being carved out as SMC is interesting

the rental flat there is substantial and they heavily rely on govt initiatives to get by

was thinking about that many years ago. Boon Lay can be craved out instead of Pioneer.

The demographics of Boon Lay and Pioneer is very much different.

 

[charleslee1989]

was thinking about that many years ago. Boon Lay can be craved out instead of Pioneer.

The demographics of Boon Lay and Pioneer is very much different.

BL very wide...Has a lot of rental flats there.......


Pioneer more homogenous.....