General S-REITs Discussion Thread

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Looking forward to the DPU boost from PLife this year.;)

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this parkway and keppel dc both are like bo hua. Overpriced yet ttm is lower than others.
 

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this parkway and keppel dc both are like bo hua. Overpriced yet ttm is lower than others.
Keppel DC is like 4.3%. I think still ok. Actually I also have some parkway reits. Hospital reits very safe but at < 4% yield, risk very high considering risk free rate is like .1.6%. But if risk free rate is 0.5%, then 3.6% makes a lot of sense.
 

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Keppel DC is like 4.3%. I think still ok. Actually I also have some parkway reits. Hospital reits very safe but at < 4% yield, risk very high considering risk free rate is like .1.6%. But if risk free rate is 0.5%, then 3.6% makes a lot of sense.
0.5 risk free vs 3.6% risk, definitely your logic is very sound. Hospital reit very safe i also fully agree. But this is only one dimensional. But pay 60% premium for safety is exorbitant, and they are not even temasek or gic backed. Are there betterer deals? Ascendas and CICT even safer, solid backing and their premium is only 24% and 15%, yet their yield is better. Dbs also way way overpriced, but you see their dividend won't lose to people. So if u compare all these, then your 3.6% where got attractive? I suspect it could be because parkway is the only one in singapore, so buyers who want healthcare all buy this one causing the price (denominator) to overshoot, and then causing they yield% to suffer. If they have some competitors then probably the valuation and yield might not be so bad.
 

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0.5 risk free vs 3.6% risk, definitely your logic is very sound. Hospital reit very safe i also fully agree. But this is only one dimensional. But pay 60% premium for safety is exorbitant, and they are not even temasek or gic backed. Are there betterer deals? Ascendas and CICT even safer, solid backing and their premium is only 24% and 15%, yet their yield is better. Dbs also way way overpriced, but you see their dividend won't lose to people. So if u compare all these, then your 3.6% where got attractive? I suspect it could be because parkway is the only one in singapore, so buyers who want healthcare all buy this one causing the price (denominator) to overshoot, and then causing they yield% to suffer. If they have some competitors then probably the valuation and yield might not be so bad.
This one you need to ask Dividend Warrior liao. For me, I bought it when the price is quite suppress. Also I anticipate future DPU to increase which means yield can theoretically be > 4.5% for me. But yes, you are spot on. This kind if accidentally make mistake then game over. Haha! Today mostly reit is not cheap liao. But some reit for example FCT, the price is quite suppress like Covid which I hoot more lately. Because I feel even with RTS, the crowd cannot be like Covid (lockdown) period. Also I doubt everyone will cheong to JB la. 1 massive stabbing or robbery case will freak everyone out. Haha
 

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this parkway and keppel dc both are like bo hua. Overpriced yet ttm is lower than others.
parkway is like the anchor to any reit investor portfolio. It’s not meant to bring in high returns but the trick is not to buy it when it is overpriced. Many opportunities to pick it up at attractive valuation in 2024 when price came down
 

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Actually the strategy of investing in REITs is to identify those weaker performing REITs and look for opportunities. Machiam like Gabriel Yap. But usually his sharing is delayed which means if follow him, then got some risk.

If we follow those YouTubers like dividend uncle, Kelvin learn investing, boon tee, typically they just showing data to say DPU down all the way, no good. DPU up all the way, good. All these everyone got eyes definitely can see.

The powerhouse reits investors usually use data to predict what will happen in the next 12-24 months. This type usually can get the upside or avoid a mine but requires more skills. Sometimes you need to talk to tenants, reit managers etc to understand the story behind

All these differentiates the sibei zai vs average ones.
 

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Actually the strategy of investing in REITs is to identify those weaker performing REITs and look for opportunities. Machiam like Gabriel Yap. But usually his sharing is delayed which means if follow him, then got some risk.

If we follow those YouTubers like dividend uncle, Kelvin learn investing, boon tee, typically they just showing data to say DPU down all the way, no good. DPU up all the way, good. All these everyone got eyes definitely can see.

The powerhouse reits investors usually use data to predict what will happen in the next 12-24 months. This type usually can get the upside or avoid a mine but requires more skills. Sometimes you need to talk to tenants, reit managers etc to understand the story behind

All these differentiates the sibei zai vs average ones.
if i am not wrong, the not-delayed info is for people who sign up for his one day seminar $800+. Now he is recommending Aims.
 

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Actually the strategy of investing in REITs is to identify those weaker performing REITs and look for opportunities. Machiam like Gabriel Yap. But usually his sharing is delayed which means if follow him, then got some risk.

If we follow those YouTubers like dividend uncle, Kelvin learn investing, boon tee, typically they just showing data to say DPU down all the way, no good. DPU up all the way, good. All these everyone got eyes definitely can see.

The powerhouse reits investors usually use data to predict what will happen in the next 12-24 months. This type usually can get the upside or avoid a mine but requires more skills. Sometimes you need to talk to tenants, reit managers etc to understand the story behind

All these differentiates the sibei zai vs average ones.
Weaker performing reits are also the ones that people in the forum are blasting left right center lol
that’s why when i see all those comments, feels more like signal to buy more rather than sell
 

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Weaker performing reits are also the ones that people in the forum are blasting left right center lol
that’s why when i see all those comments, feels more like signal to buy more rather than sell
But may go under water more
 

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Weaker performing reits are also the ones that people in the forum are blasting left right center lol
that’s why when i see all those comments, feels more like signal to buy more rather than sell
i waiting for capitaland tiong kok to clear up their mess. Now still very messy. In fact worsening.
 

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China reit quite strange and I think I reported when I came back from China. Totally CMI their shopping malls. Jitao cui based on how they design the malls. No sheltered dropped off even for mega malls. Come back read Capitaland China report totally cui. This one quite dangerous to add more considering the shitty DPU. Not sure whether the reits manager can do magic or not.

https://investor.clct.com.sg/newsroom/20260205_071223_AU8U_JKXPHSDU3VFFNXFQ.3.pdf

i waiting for capitaland tiong kok to clear up their mess. Now still very messy. In fact worsening.
 

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Many reits performance don’t look good. SG companies don’t have the grit to perform against headwinds. Once the banks, Keppel, SingTel and sgx follow suit, then our STI etf may have another lost decade
 

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China reit quite strange and I think I reported when I came back from China. Totally CMI their shopping malls. Jitao cui based on how they design the malls. No sheltered dropped off even for mega malls. Come back read Capitaland China report totally cui. This one quite dangerous to add more considering the shitty DPU. Not sure whether the reits manager can do magic or not.

https://investor.clct.com.sg/newsroom/20260205_071223_AU8U_JKXPHSDU3VFFNXFQ.3.pdf
we can patiently wait for turnaround to enter. It cannot be bad forever, at some point in the future, the mess has to be cleared up. China economy will not be bad forever, cannot underestimate china people. Capitaland was indirectly by auntie ho and uncle lee, same same mapletree, it should not collapse.
 

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The most interesting is Capitaland 9CI and CICT C38U. I have been adding a bit of both the last few weeks but price has shot up since then.

There are rumours of merger/consolidation with Mapletree, maybe some people have got more info than others.....

we can patiently wait for turnaround to enter. It cannot be bad forever, at some point in the future, the mess has to be cleared up. China economy will not be bad forever, cannot underestimate china people. Capitaland was indirectly by auntie ho and uncle lee, same same mapletree, it should not collapse.

Capitaland power. I have been accumulating 9CI and C38U but stopped buying already since the price keeps rising. Seems that market is assuming the merger is going to be announced soon.
 
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