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[Blindaim]

i think i will try for ineffa weapon... the last weapon i get is skyward pride ... that means my next 5* is the featured right ? like it's either Columbina or Ineffa ... right ?

Fractured Halo
After an Elemental Skill or Elemental Burst is used, ATK is increased by 24% for 20s. If the equipping character creates a Shield while this effect is active, they will gain the Electrifying Edict effect for 20s: All nearby party members deal 40% more Lunar-Charged DMG.

The lunar charged buff is for the whole team.. including off field character will get the buff right.. like very strong.

play since 1.0 still blur blur lol...

Ok for Ineffa personal dmg. Average value for team.

The 40% Lunar-Charged DMG is diluted with EM damage bonus and other damage bonus. So overall it will increase team dmg around 15-20% depending on team stats (I rough estimation, not accurate).

Might want to use the primos to get Flins next patch (rumored) instead. If don't like him then nevermind.
If you will play Nefer team, I think save for Nefer weapon or C2 Lauma will be better.

 

[evildoer]

Ok for Ineffa personal dmg. Average value for team.

The 40% Lunar-Charged DMG is diluted with EM damage bonus and other damage bonus. So overall it will increase team dmg around 15-20% depending on team stats (I rough estimation, not accurate).

Might want to use the primos to get Flins next patch (rumored) instead. If don't like him then nevermind.
If you will play Nefer team, I think save for Nefer weapon will be best.

hmm... i dont have flins.. maybe the primo better spend on him lol

 

[Blindaim]

hmm... i dont have flins.. maybe the primo better spend on him lol

Or save for C2 Lauma also quite good.

 

[evildoer]

Or save for C2 Lauma also quite good.

too expensive.. Lauma c0 now only.. now like theatre better to have more character.. i also start to train up my 4* for more choice . it's getting really hard to get all the reward.. i think i am getting Zibai first.. then if i want flin i need to win 50/50. Do horizontal investment. lol

 

[Blindaim]

too expensive.. Lauma c0 now only.. now like theatre better to have more character.. i also start to train up my 4* for more choice . it's getting really hard to get all the reward.. i think i am getting Zibai first.. then if i want flin i need to win 50/50. Do horizontal investment. lol

You should skip Zibai. Zibai has lower dmg compared to other lunar teams without C6 Illuga. Also a bit restrictive team building wise (Hydro + Geo for dmg). A problem in theater.

I'm getting Zibai though since i didn't get other lunar teams.

Oh by the way, i just found out Lv100 is useless for Nefer since it doesn't add EM stats that she cares about. So don't use it on her.

 

[helloicanseeu]

You should skip Zibai. Zibai has lower dmg compared to other lunar teams without C6 Illuga. Also a bit restrictive team building wise (Hydro + Geo for dmg). A problem in theater.

I'm getting Zibai though since i didn't get other lunar teams.

Oh by the way, i just found out Lv100 is useless for Nefer since it doesn't add EM stats that she cares about. So don't use it on her.

Means nefer dmg doesn't scale on level, unlike traditional EM damage dealers?

 

[Blindaim]

Means nefer dmg doesn't scale on level, unlike traditional EM damage dealers?

Yes

Lunar dmg have 2 types. Reaction dmg or Direct dmg.

Reaction use base dmg that scale with level
while
Direct dmg use talent multiplier as base dmg instead. Not affected by char level.

(Lunar Bloom so far only has direct dmg linked to talent).

So, summary is got talent use talent multiplier, no talent use level multiplier.

 

[Blindaim]

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[Blindaim]

 

[evildoer]

i try using test dummy 2 with this nefer team can do around 3.4m per rotation (but my stats is not optimal for this build) . Gemini ,give me the rotation lol..

Team member
Columbina (C0) - Prototype Amber R5
Lauma (C0R1)
Nahida (C2R1)
Nefer (C0) - Blackmarrow Lantern R5

Rotation
Nefer: Tap E (Skill) — Apply initial Dendro and set up the conversion field.
Columbina: E \ Q — Apply off-field Hydro and trigger Prototype Amber healing.
Lauma: Q \ Hold E — Buff reaction damage and shred Dendro RES.
Nahida: E \ Q — Apply Deepwood shred and massive EM buff.
Nefer: E \ 3x Charged Attack \ E \ 3x Charged Attack \ Q — Maximize field time damage.

The Nefer Buff Summary

Source	Buff Name / Type	Direct Effect on Nefer
Nahida C2	Root of Fullness	+20% Crit Rate & +100% Crit DMG (Shade only).
Lauma P1	Nascent Gleam	+15% Crit Rate & +100% Crit DMG (Shade only).
Nahida Q + R1	Shrine of Maya	+250 EM (Flat) & +48 EM (Weapon).
Lauma Q + Sign.	Pale Hymn	+250 EM (Flat) & +120 EM (Weapon).
Columbina P1	Lunar Reflection	Increases Dew Capacity to 6 (Ensures Nefer has "fuel").
Columbina Q	Moon Sign	+20-40% Base DMG to all Lunar Reactions (The "Multiplier").
Lauma Q	Frostgrove Buff	+40% Lunar-Bloom DMG bonus.
Lauma E	Frostgrove Shred	-25% Dendro & Hydro RES on enemies.
Nahida (Art.)	Deepwood Shred	-30% Dendro RES (4-pc set).
R5 Lantern	Rossum's Resolve	+96% Bloom DMG & +48% Lunar-Bloom DMG.

*Nahida C2 & Lauma P1 Crit Dmg does not stacks. Crit Rate does stacks..


This is the dps following the rotation.. but i havent get used to the dash cancelled yet.. should about to be a little bit more.. and work on my artifacts..

 

[Blindaim]

i try using test dummy 2 with this nefer team can do around 3.4m per rotation (but my stats is not optimal for this build) . Gemini ,give me the rotation lol..

Team member
Columbina (C0) - Prototype Amber R5
Lauma (C0R1)
Nahida (C2R1)
Nefer (C0) - Blackmarrow Lantern R5

Rotation
Nefer: Tap E (Skill) — Apply initial Dendro and set up the conversion field.
Columbina: E \ Q — Apply off-field Hydro and trigger Prototype Amber healing.
Lauma: Q \ Hold E — Buff reaction damage and shred Dendro RES.
Nahida: E \ Q — Apply Deepwood shred and massive EM buff.
Nefer: E \ 3x Charged Attack \ E \ 3x Charged Attack \ Q — Maximize field time damage.

The Nefer Buff Summary

Source	Buff Name / Type	Direct Effect on Nefer
Nahida C2	Root of Fullness	+20% Crit Rate & +100% Crit DMG (Shade only).
Lauma P1	Nascent Gleam	+15% Crit Rate & +100% Crit DMG (Shade only).
Nahida Q + R1	Shrine of Maya	+250 EM (Flat) & +48 EM (Weapon).
Lauma Q + Sign.	Pale Hymn	+250 EM (Flat) & +120 EM (Weapon).
Columbina P1	Lunar Reflection	Increases Dew Capacity to 6 (Ensures Nefer has "fuel").
Columbina Q	Moon Sign	+20-40% Base DMG to all Lunar Reactions (The "Multiplier").
Lauma Q	Frostgrove Buff	+40% Lunar-Bloom DMG bonus.
Lauma E	Frostgrove Shred	-25% Dendro & Hydro RES on enemies.
Nahida (Art.)	Deepwood Shred	-30% Dendro RES (4-pc set).
R5 Lantern	Rossum's Resolve	+96% Bloom DMG & +48% Lunar-Bloom DMG.

*Nahida C2 & Lauma P1 Crit Dmg does not stacks. Crit Rate does stacks..

Can try Nahida EQ before Lauma Q \ Hold E. Hold E should do more dmg from EM buff.

 

[treeskull]

i try using test dummy 2 with this nefer team can do around 3.4m per rotation (but my stats is not optimal for this build) . Gemini ,give me the rotation lol..

Team member
Columbina (C0) - Prototype Amber R5
Lauma (C0R1)
Nahida (C2R1)
Nefer (C0) - Blackmarrow Lantern R5

Rotation
Nefer: Tap E (Skill) — Apply initial Dendro and set up the conversion field.
Columbina: E \ Q — Apply off-field Hydro and trigger Prototype Amber healing.
Lauma: Q \ Hold E — Buff reaction damage and shred Dendro RES.
Nahida: E \ Q — Apply Deepwood shred and massive EM buff.
Nefer: E \ 3x Charged Attack \ E \ 3x Charged Attack \ Q — Maximize field time damage.

The Nefer Buff Summary

Source	Buff Name / Type	Direct Effect on Nefer
Nahida C2	Root of Fullness	+20% Crit Rate & +100% Crit DMG (Shade only).
Lauma P1	Nascent Gleam	+15% Crit Rate & +100% Crit DMG (Shade only).
Nahida Q + R1	Shrine of Maya	+250 EM (Flat) & +48 EM (Weapon).
Lauma Q + Sign.	Pale Hymn	+250 EM (Flat) & +120 EM (Weapon).
Columbina P1	Lunar Reflection	Increases Dew Capacity to 6 (Ensures Nefer has "fuel").
Columbina Q	Moon Sign	+20-40% Base DMG to all Lunar Reactions (The "Multiplier").
Lauma Q	Frostgrove Buff	+40% Lunar-Bloom DMG bonus.
Lauma E	Frostgrove Shred	-25% Dendro & Hydro RES on enemies.
Nahida (Art.)	Deepwood Shred	-30% Dendro RES (4-pc set).
R5 Lantern	Rossum's Resolve	+96% Bloom DMG & +48% Lunar-Bloom DMG.

*Nahida C2 & Lauma P1 Crit Dmg does not stacks. Crit Rate does stacks..

Like damn pain with all the buffs

 

[evildoer]

Like damn pain with all the buffs

actually the buffs have error especially the 100% crit damage buff and lauma signature dont others but herself...

my nefer em is 879... with nahida buff and the artifact , can reach 1200

 

[Blindaim]

actually the buffs have error especially the 100% crit damage buff and lauma signature dont others but herself...

my nefer em is 879... with nahida buff and the artifact , can reach 1200

3.4m in 18s rotation is 190K dps. Have you tried Nahida before Lauma rotation?

 

[evildoer]

3.4m in 18s rotation is 190K dps. Have you tried Nahida before Lauma rotation?

haven't try that. Is it better to let nahida go first ?.. before lauma.. but can't do that in 18 sec.. i think more like 25-26 sec to finish Nefer 6 charged attack and end it with her burst.. don't know by then i might have lost what buff (expired) in the last few hit.. i need to get used to the cancel .. it's not as easy as huitao animation cancel .. mabye can save about 1to 2 sec

Nahida Burst last 22 sec , skill 25 sec.. (Her skill and buff should be good for the rotaion) Deep wood artifact 8 secs, probably gonna refresh when proc with lunar boom

Lauma Burst 20 sec, Skill 15secs ( Res shred from lauma cannot last the whole duration for nefer)

• Field Duration: 15 seconds.
• Cooldown: 12 seconds.
• RES Shred Duration: 10 seconds.

Columbina Burst 20 sec, Skill 25 sec

i think because of my slow reaction and high ping .. (don't know what up these day my ping is over 300ms.. few years ago it's like 60ms) i can't finish all the steps within 20 secs..

 

[Blindaim]

haven't try that. Is it better to let nahida go first ?.. before lauma.. but can't do that in 18 sec.. i think more like 25-26 sec to finish Nefer 6 charged attack and end it with her burst.. don't know by then i might have lost what buff (expired) in the last few hit.. i need to get used to the cancel .. it's not as easy as huitao animation cancel .. mabye can save about 1to 2 sec

Nahida Burst last 22 sec , skill 25 sec.. (Her skill and buff should be good for the rotaion) Deep wood artifact 8 secs, probably gonna refresh when proc with lunar boom

Lauma Burst 20 sec, Skill 15secs ( Res shred from lauma cannot last the whole duration for nefer)

• Field Duration: 15 seconds.
• Cooldown: 12 seconds.
• RES Shred Duration: 10 seconds.

Columbina Burst 20 sec, Skill 25 sec

i think because of my slow reaction and high ping .. (don't know what up these day my ping is over 300ms.. few years ago it's like 60ms) i can't finish all the steps within 20 secs..

Yeah need dash cancel to be within 20secs.
You can tap dash anytime after Nefer draw the circle on the floor. The dmg will go through. Can keep holding the charged button no need release.

You can skip Nefer burst if you are running out of time. Her burst not lunar, dmg not a lot. I see comments say her burst is dps loss. Only use burst when you find your rotation ends too early and nothing to do.

 

[evildoer]

i try raiden team (Columbina, Raiden, xilonen, Ineffa) - less complicated and easier to rotate. the result is 15% less than what i can do with nefer team. about 3.2m in 25 seconds. This actually allowed my Columbina to use sacrificial jade (boosting my HP to 48k).

Raiden E
Columbina EQ
Xilonen E, NA, Q, NA (Q in the middle to add resolve stacks and to make sure cinder city can buff hydro and electro damage)
Ineffa EQ
Raiden burst - i am getting around 260k initial slash (which is 50% weaker then raiden, benny, sarah and kazuha) then spam normal attack to reduce all their burst cooldown by 5sec and battery them.

For this team , i actually invested little less with ER on Columbina 150%.. actually all 3 of them do 1m damage equally except for Xilonen i think 80k damage or something. but i can naturally go into the next rotation after Raiden finish her spam . i think Raiden damage all come her skill co ordinated attack lunar charged.. rather than her burst. She had 0 EM.. but after buff (ineffa & siken moon) she can turn into 280+ EM.. maybe i would try using more em artifact (Trading attack) on her.. treating her burst as just utility instead.

 

[Blindaim]

i try raiden team (Columbina, Raiden, xilonen, Ineffa) - less complicated and easier to rotate. the result is 15% less than what i can do with nefer team. about 3.2m in 25 seconds. This actually allowed my Columbina to use sacrificial jade (boosting my HP to 48k).

Raiden E
Columbina EQ
Xilonen E, NA, Q, NA (Q in the middle to add resolve stacks and to make sure cinder city can buff hydro and electro damage)
Ineffa EQ
Raiden burst - i am getting around 260k initial slash (which is 50% weaker then raiden, benny, sarah and kazuha) then spam normal attack to reduce all their burst cooldown by 5sec and battery them.

For this team , i actually invested little less with ER on Columbina 150%.. actually all 3 of them do 1m damage equally except for Xilonen i think 80k damage or something. but i can naturally go into the next rotation after Raiden finish her spam . i think Raiden damage all come her skill co ordinated attack lunar charged.. rather than her burst. She had 0 EM.. but after buff (ineffa & siken moon) she can turn into 280+ EM.. maybe i would try using more em artifact (Trading attack) on her.. treating her burst as just utility instead.

Cinder city need reaction then can trigger buff. Xilonen can apply geo twice and form 2 different crystallization with that rotation? I think just focus cinder city on electro is good enough. So no need Xilonen burst.

I not sure but i don't think Raiden should trade for EM.
Lunar-charged reaction dmg usually is not very high. Is Ineffa direct lunar-damage doing the bulk of lunar charged dmg.

The Lunar-charged reaction dmg will look at the whole team stats and use the top 2 characters dmg as majority of final dmg. Might not even use Raiden's stats.

 

[Blindaim]

Yeah need dash cancel to be within 20secs.
You can tap dash anytime after Nefer draw the circle on the floor. The dmg will go through. Can keep holding the charged button no need release.

You can skip Nefer burst if you are running out of time. Her burst not lunar, dmg not a lot. I see comments say her burst is dps loss. Only use burst when you find your rotation ends too early and nothing to do.

Just saw a video, Nefer use 3rd E to used up the verdant dews will do more dmg than using burst.
Edit: This video rotation Nefer don't use any animation cancel so is 26secs rotation and can use 3rd E.

 

[evildoer]

Yeah need dash cancel to be within 20secs.
You can tap dash anytime after Nefer draw the circle on the floor. The dmg will go through. Can keep holding the charged button no need release.

You can skip Nefer burst if you are running out of time. Her burst not lunar, dmg not a lot. I see comments say her burst is dps loss. Only use burst when you find your rotation ends too early and nothing to do.

i did once the best record is 21 sec... for the full rotation with the last Q...

Nefer rotation, i got brain freeze for half a sec when doing the second E... the second time use sklill. E 3xCA "E" 3 x CA...