[GLGT] It will now cost around S$24 to fully charge a Tesla Model 3 Standard Range Single Motor in SG

[EJB]

Whoever believe the gahmen is keen in clean/green energy and that EV is the way to go, will start to realize, they will start raising prices for everything EV related .

 

[Shdwfalcon]

Servicing of ev not easy for those parts that need to be replaced
Not v easy feat so maybe near future will know if servicing is exp or cheap

Electronics are not known to be reliable or long lasting in our constant hot humid weather conditions, they tend to go wonky much easier. And certain electonics in cars can be quite difficult to DIY fix.

 

[tatsit]

so is it worth? able to breakeven the exorbitant road tax?

 

[Laneige]

so is it worth? able to breakeven the exorbitant road tax?

Time will tell but with Russia n Ukraine issue n super inflation, those wana buy cars might see higher costs in near future too

Jin jialat
With usa money I think our foods size shrink n price go up n then hdb just go up also Only salaries slower to reacting then another round of price inflation because co cost go up n wow just right meet a crappy 1% gst increase then another 1%

 

[Jazzwraper]

everybody starts to buy hdb 2nd flr unit

 

[Ctrl_Alt_Del]

Should have wireless charging like mobile phone. Car park over slot and charging begins when mobile app activate it.

Similarly, 60% charging time within an hour and good enough to travel around Singapore (exclude Penang).

Now got fast charging for mobile too.

Already has this wireless charging tech for ev. Ev need to has wireless charging pad installed.

 

[Ctrl_Alt_Del]

waiting for Kia and other EVs to come onboard instead of tesla heh

Hyundai ev factory in singapore scheduled to complete construction end of this year. News reported it will assemble ioniq 5 for sg market at initially.

https://www.straitstimes.com/singap...ore-will-be-for-local-market-first-may-not-be

 

[bossjiaksai]

If Singapore is committed to Green initiative then why the heck are they taxing EV and not further on petrol cars? This does not make sense no matter how i try to see from their perspective of ''wanting SG to go green''.

In fact i would argue, some sort of a small rebate should be given for EVs in order to start phrasing out petrol cars over the years and some added tax for petrol cars. This would signify to the industry what type of cars the Govt is expecting to see and willing to commit to as well as a clear direction for business and car purchasers alike.

Sure the infra is unable to support full fledged switch overs currently but as we start getting batch 1, infra should be able to support a small subsection initially then slowly ramp up progressively as more and more batches comes in.

Right now i have no idea what's going on in their heads. It's almost like the Govt is having some sort of internal turmoil about this and regretting wanting to go green or sth.

They have no turmoil about it. Their plan is to push everyone to use public transport as that is the most green option. Not even EV comes close. Why do you think they are supporting cycling so much? Because cycling is one of the last mile tool in their green plan.

Yet they cannot ignore the revenues that come from car ownership. Petrol excise duties, COE, ARFs, road taxes, ERPs etc, plus the industry that cars are supporting , like workshops, manufacturers, distributors. Many jobs and money at stake.

So what they do is, since there are many sinkies wanting to own cars, they grant that wish, but make it as expensive as possible. Those who can afford will still buy, they still enjoy their revenues. Those who cannot afford and are priced out are their target, cause this group will turn to public transport, which is their primary objective.

This is also the reason why EVs will remain expensive, there is no incentive for the Govt to push people to EVs. Instead, they will make ICEs more and more expensive, at the same time increasing the costs of owning EVs too. They earn both ways, plus obtain their objective of a greener transport plan.

 

[Ctrl_Alt_Del]

Can the one EV transfer it battery power to another EV? I always wonder that cos in those apocalyptic movies, fuel can be siphoned from abandoned cars. But if the world transits to mostly EVs , then how?

Hyundai/kia ev has adaptor that can output at 3.6kw AC, can slow charge other ev too. This ev below can output 11kw to power house or charge other ev.

 

[firebrand83]

Model 3 is Attrage at Conti prices, go ahead

 

[Daty41]

petrol station already got long queue during peak......imagine more EV, will institute odd/even days charging based on IC during peak period...or balloting or worst still auctioning slots....

also during the waiting period, already spend $15 on coffee and snacks...

 

[danguard]

Servicing of ev not easy for those parts that need to be replaced
Not v easy feat so maybe near future will know if servicing is exp or cheap

the batt they say is the main cost

and SG our hot and humid climate not helping also on that

 

[danguard]

petrol station already got long queue during peak......imagine more EV, will institute odd/even days charging based on IC during peak period...or balloting or worst still auctioning slots....

also during the waiting period, already spend $15 on coffee and snacks...

ya man

and EV charging does take time regardless of superchargers unless that tech is improved drastically

 

[danguard]

Model 3 is Attrage at Conti prices, go ahead

 

[danguard]

Hyundai/kia ev has adaptor that can output at 3.6kw AC, can slow charge other ev too. This ev below can output 11kw to power house or charge other ev.

hoping one day we can charge portable batteries at home and "port" them into EV parked as an alternative solution as well to wall chargers

 

[danguard]

Electronics are not known to be reliable or long lasting in our constant hot humid weather conditions, they tend to go wonky much easier. And certain electonics in cars can be quite difficult to DIY fix.

yes exactly

u cannot repair most of these electronic assemblies usually is replace more costly as well

 

[danguard]

i can tell you for sure this 1 cannot be implemented now ... becos wide ranging EMI interference
if can do ... all the EVbus already install ... cos there is no connectors to wear out = even lower operating cost
the cost of installing EMI shielding on so many things = dont use better

 

[SuperClubby]

Cannot see liked this
Must see distance too mah

Then they now going ev
Will they later come tell us power issues n we cannot rely on old technology
We need nuclear power? Will this day come?

Then machiam on some boat liao
Everything relying on electricity n tell h no sufficient electricity in future n now must build nuclear station then how? How?

448km of WLTP range likely around ~360km of real world range.

https://www.businesstimes.com.sg/go...el-cars-taxis-in-singapore-road-taxes-for-evs

Mr Ong also acknowledged that while having high-powered "fast" charging points is preferred, the key to unlocking more charging facilities is to not insist on this, given that it would require a major upgrading of almost all the power substations and grid infrastructure in Singapore.
"It would be costly, time-consuming, stall the development and expansion for charging infrastructure, and severely impede the adoption of EVs," he said.

Shows that the grid is not ready for full adoption yet, not wonder most of the chargers are slow ACs and DC 50kW/60kW points. Many new EVs are capable of charging above 150kW DC.

https://www.straitstimes.com/singap...pore-exploring-tapping-nuclear-energy-by-2050Probably coming soon...

 

[Kum Jit Pow]

Based on my current routine (still WFH), I only need to pump petrol (600km capacity) once a month for my current car so if it's a Tesla, only need to charge twice a month at most (assuming battery can retain its charge when not in use)

with your current usage, you shouldn't be owning a car, taking grab or even calling limo cab will be cheaper.


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[Kum Jit Pow]

does charge dissipate over time? petrol doesn't evaporate because its sealed in a tank. but charge can dissipate
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I don't know if it dissipate or not. I think it's quite negligible. the main cost of owning an EV is the initial outlay, I believe the tax on it is different from ICE which is 150%. govt. Will lose the petrol tax so they tax upfront.

earlier in the thread, someone compared a model 3 to an Altis. that is like comparing an apple to a grape. just a normal model 3 can do 0-100 in 6s and the comfort level is totally different. don't talk about the performance model3. ferrari and lambos will be smelling smoke, how many can do 3s? where to find a 200+k car that can beat million dollars supercars?


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