(GPGT)Espresso machine hoot

[Qingrong]

First look at Baratza Sette:

Hoping to get this unit together with the newly launched Rocket Appartamento soon.

 

[mirage86]

i recently tested a bsgp from a friend. its a disaster! i can't seem to grind fine enough at burr setting 1 and machine setting 1. the espresso under same technique was gushing out like water!! to be fair, my beans were stale about 1.5 months after opening. Could this be the reason? or the bsgp cannot make it?

Omg sette! maybe i shld invest in rok. is it ok compared to hg1

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You need to calibrate the burrs, factory setting didn't work for me either. Taken directly from Breville website: Further extend the grinding range by tuning the Adjustable Upper Burr to either coarser or finer without the use of tools. I've also done this to my Preciso before it could be used for espresso. Once you adjust the burrs, it will work just fine.

Also.. 1.5 months old beans won't get you much crema!

 

[erwinseow]

i recently tested a bsgp from a friend. its a disaster! i can't seem to grind fine enough at burr setting 1 and machine setting 1. the espresso under same technique was gushing out like water!! to be fair, my beans were stale about 1.5 months after opening. Could this be the reason? or the bsgp cannot make it?

Omg sette! maybe i shld invest in rok. is it ok compared to hg1

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You may need to dose higher?

 

[tyrtok]

At 1.5months. My pull are also quite watery, and very little crema.

I dont know how consistently fine is the hg1, cause I only heard nothing bad about it, but never experience it. But my rok was sufficient to let me pull my espressos without problem.

For you though, you need something that can give you your consistency first. Get a machine for your main espresso output. Rok is my secondary, i.e other special blends or even robusta blends so I don't mess up my machine settings and beans in the hopper. It needs quite a bit of calibration that you probably have not grasp well now.

By the way, are you using the single or double basket? My beans weigh in at 13.5g on single basket, and 22g for a double basket, to taste optimal. Differs from machine to machine and from bean to bean.

Using mainly: Dutch colony, Joe and dough, highlander.

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im having issues with my ROK. trying to grind espresso grind but seems a little big for my 58mm leh. if i adjust any further my burr would be touching each other liao

 

[IntelFlash]

With the Sette, you can eliminate the process because no old grounds are retained.

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Good feature, but I read that the grounds are likely to be very hot with the small burr and fast rpm.

There's a warning on the user manual.

Warning: The Sette grinds at a very high speed, be careful not to overfill your portafilter or bin! If a mound of coffee backs up into the chute it will clog the grinder. Clogged grinders are not user repairable.

Think I will just stick to the usual grinder designs for now.

 

[Qingrong]

Thank you for pointing out. Now it set me back if I want to continue with this grinder.

Good feature, but I read that the grounds are likely to be very hot with the small burr and fast rpm.

There's a warning on the user manual.


Think I will just stick to the usual grinder designs for now.

 

[tyrtok]

Thank you for pointing out. Now it set me back if I want to continue with this grinder.

agree. gonna wait for review. On the 2nd note, i won a pack of beans from joecurious.sg. Thank for those who shared the link

 

[sohzai]

im having issues with my ROK. trying to grind espresso grind but seems a little big for my 58mm leh. if i adjust any further my burr would be touching each other liao

oh? I am doing fine with it lehz...you may want to go through the calibration again?

Just grinded it and compared vs my bezzera grinder. Result is even finer than my bezzera.

 

[sohzai]

Good feature, but I read that the grounds are likely to be very hot with the small burr and fast rpm.

There's a warning on the user manual.


Think I will just stick to the usual grinder designs for now.

Thank you for pointing out. Now it set me back if I want to continue with this grinder.

Watched some videos on it. Looks more promising than many others, just not sure of the price and durability. To be honest, as a home unit, you only need to grind beans sparingly each day unless you prepare coffee for many family members. If there are enough rest time between each grind, heat is not really an issue right?

 

[IntelFlash]

What you referring is heat retention which should not be an issue because it should dissipate quickly after the grinds exits out.

Was talking about heat generated and passed to the grinds immediately during the grinding.
Was in Germany and was in an equipment shop, they guy made me an expresso with a small 40mm burr versus 64mm and it does taste different. The one with the bigger burr is less bitter with the notes clearer.

The red bold warning on the Sette coffee powder that getting clogged and becomes not user repairable seems disturbing. Suggest wait and see first since their old standard designs already have many complains on its durability.

I think there's still coffee retained between the burrs but retention so far is no biggie to me. Can't taste or see any diff between 0.x gram variance. If you do single dosing, retention matter even lesser.

 

[CTBR]

Another review of the Sette 270 with photos https://www.reddit.com/r/Coffee/comments/4he2hy/gear_early_thoughts_on_the_sette_270_and_some/

 

[Qingrong]

Thank you for the post!

Here's another: http://www.coffeegeek.com/forums/articles/columns/710589#710589

Another review of the Sette 270 with photos https://www.reddit.com/r/Coffee/comments/4he2hy/gear_early_thoughts_on_the_sette_270_and_some/

 

[testerjp]

Wait for the real product, those reviews that you see now are sponsored with either money or given the product, so of course will be saying they are great.

I think it should be quite close to the Preciso, 40mm, almost in the same price category. Except the design, noisier and it spins a lot more faster. Faster is not better in grinder. You can find some reviews from Amazon on the Preciso
http://www.amazon.com/Baratza-Preci...e=UTF8&filterByStar=one_star&showViewpoints=0


Get a solid and durable grinder as priority, as it uses a lot of torque and handle a lot of rough work. I will pay for larger burrs for better taste and durability for that price.
Those Italian grinders that can survive few hundred cups every day in an Italian cafe can probably last you a lifetime for home use, so choose wisely.

 

[Corsabrin]

anyone knows how to adjust opv on bz13? help!

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[IntelFlash]

Should be similar to their other machines

 

[Corsabrin]

so its just turning the nut? is there any thing to look out for?

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[IntelFlash]

Put the blind filter to measure.

 

[erwinseow]

anyone knows how to adjust opv on bz13? help!

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What is the reason for messing around with the OPV?

 

[Corsabrin]

my brew pressure seems too high leh. I understand the bezzerras made their machine this way, but i'm still under extracting.

I read that ppl have experienced this on their bz07s and 09s. They adjusted what is supposedly the OPV (suppression valve). I've asked FCC and they said that so far people encounter more problems if they meddle with the OPV.

Now I don't know what to do! /stress/

 

[mirage86]

Wait for the real product, those reviews that you see now are sponsored with either money or given the product, so of course will be saying they are great.

I think it should be quite close to the Preciso, 40mm, almost in the same price category. Except the design, noisier and it spins a lot more faster. Faster is not better in grinder. You can find some reviews from Amazon on the Preciso
http://www.amazon.com/Baratza-Preci...e=UTF8&filterByStar=one_star&showViewpoints=0


Get a solid and durable grinder as priority, as it uses a lot of torque and handle a lot of rough work. I will pay for larger burrs for better taste and durability for that price.
Those Italian grinders that can survive few hundred cups every day in an Italian cafe can probably last you a lifetime for home use, so choose wisely.

As with all electronics, it's probably better to wait it out and not buy the first batch - especially when there's new technology involved. Who knows, after all the initial complaints, Baratza might just release a v2 or something in the near future to rectify all the issues.

As the saying goes, you get what you pay for. I don't think anyone should be thinking the Baratza Preciso or Sette are built to last a lifetime - for that price point, they are actually already quite value for money. Commercial grinders easily cost 2-3x more.