(GPGT)Espresso machine hoot

[chikyblink]

I got China aeropress works great at 1/4 of cost:

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.14.15.WiymiW&id=24894364006

From the pics looks exactly like the real thing. The plastic is clear or tinted for yours?
I agree for food products stay clear from MIC

 

[relacker]

From the pics looks exactly like the real thing. The plastic is clear or tinted for yours?
I agree for food products stay clear from MIC

it's clear. works great. but well ....ok

 

[chromehead]

I got China aeropress works great at 1/4 of cost:

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the real deal at 25usd vs local retail of over $60 lol

just hoot when u have other stuff to buy to qualify for free shipping


damn tiongs its almost a total carbon copy rofl

 

[Lazy_Tiger]

it's clear. works great. but well ....ok

haha aerobie one is mia but for such terms are loosely used. Could be the parts all from all over the work but only assembled and packaged in usa.

I tried some nylon 4 chairs today good stuff. a lighter roast style i think. they have 2 single origin espresso now too. both Ethiopians.

 

[Lazy_Tiger]

the real deal at 25usd vs local retail of over $60 lol

just hoot when u have other stuff to buy to qualify for free shipping


damn tiongs its almost a total carbon copy rofl

for all we know the oem for the parts are from china. THe MIA label for the original is only the assembly and packaging.

 

[chikyblink]

for all we know the oem for the parts are from china. THe MIA label for the original is only the assembly and packaging.

True the parts may be from China but they're under strict quality control from aerobie.
The fakes on the other hand may be using inferior quality materials.

 

[derazor]

True the parts may be from China but they're under strict quality control from aerobie.
The fakes on the other hand may be using inferior quality materials.

this type of small money just get original. 1 bag of beans already close to $20 liao.

 

[Lazy_Tiger]

this type of small money just get original. 1 bag of beans already close to $20 liao.

true better safe than sorry

 

[swirlsurfer13]

haha aerobie one is mia but for such terms are loosely used. Could be the parts all from all over the work but only assembled and packaged in usa.

I tried some nylon 4 chairs today good stuff. a lighter roast style i think. they have 2 single origin espresso now too. both Ethiopians.

I was there in the morning! Did you try the Bokasso? I find that the 4 chairs and bokasso are almost on the opposite spectrum of taste. Still trying to get used to the fruity flavours of the bokasso lol.

 

[thewheelies]

wow, so many coffee lovers here.

 

[Lazy_Tiger]

I was there in the morning! Did you try the Bokasso? I find that the 4 chairs and bokasso are almost on the opposite spectrum of taste. Still trying to get used to the fruity flavours of the bokasso lol.

didn't manage to try actually. i tried bokasso many months ago but honestly can't remember the taste haha except that it was good once got the parameters correct.

I prefer balanced style of espresso but impt has to have a good thick oily mouthfeel. I feel espresso because its a very concentrated beverage and a high change to go wrong very easily if one flavour dominates over another. A careful blend and a suitable roasting level/technique to bring out the desired flavours coupled with a good working knowledge of of how to extract out these flavours into the cup is really an art.

 

[derazor]

How many of you guys add hot water to espresso to make kopi-o lol?

 

[derazor]

can any experts teach me how to froth milk to make latte art?

I dont have the thermometer and the result come out is got foam ( no big bubbles ) but it's separated from the milk. so when I pour out, milk first and at the end one big chunk of foam is on top of the cup.

What went roung? Part 1 too long? Part 2 too long? OR both?

Part 1 : Sucking of Air
Part 2 : Mixing of Milk + Froth

 

[chikyblink]

How many of you guys add hot water to espresso to make kopi-o lol?

it's called an Americano.
not one of my favourites as I would rather brew in my aeropress if I want a longer drink

 

[EatSnakeWarrior]

How many of you guys add hot water to espresso to make kopi-o lol?

Americano? Me when I'm too lazy to froth milk

 

[chikyblink]

can any experts teach me how to froth milk to make latte art?

I dont have the thermometer and the result come out is got foam ( no big bubbles ) but it's separated from the milk. so when I pour out, milk first and at the end one big chunk of foam is on top of the cup.

What went roung? Part 1 too long? Part 2 too long? OR both?

Part 1 : Sucking of Air
Part 2 : Mixing of Milk + Froth

it seems like you're creating too much foam, introducing too much air in the beginning. Its perfect for a dry cappuccino but fail for latte art. Shorten your 'part 1', then concentrate more on swirling the milk. It'll be better for tiger to advise you since he own a silvia.

Of all the latte art videos I've seen, this is the best one. Very clear and easy to understand, esp for noobs.
VCR StreetSmarts #14: Latte Art on Vimeo

 

[Lazy_Tiger]

How many of you guys add hot water to espresso to make kopi-o lol?

I do that for about 1/4 of my drinks. Americano last longer, taste more "normal" with sugar compared to espresso and i find it easier to appreciate the coffee notes with a longer drink. Espresso is harder to detect coffee notes because its so concentrated and easily to get confused or muddled up because there is so much going on in the drink.

 

[Lazy_Tiger]

it seems like you're creating too much foam, introducing too much air in the beginning. Its perfect for a dry cappuccino but fail for latte art. Shorten your 'part 1', then concentrate more on swirling the milk. It'll be better for tiger to advise you since he own a silvia.

Of all the latte art videos I've seen, this is the best one. Very clear and easy to understand, esp for noobs.
VCR StreetSmarts #14: Latte Art on Vimeo

Some methods advocate 2 stage of milk frothing ie. 1) sucking of air into milk, wand just below surface until milk is about 40 degree and 2)plunging wand deeper into milk until milk is about 65 degrees while ensuring the milk is moving in a way that the milk and bubbles are being "folded".

There can be many reasons why the foam is stiff

1) doing stage 1 for too long (into too much air into milk)
2) doing stage 2 incorrectly (not folding the milk over itself i.e. swirling correctly and sufficiently to mix the air as homogeneously as possible into the whole milk mixture)

I find stage 2 is the hardest to do because you need to know where to place your wand and angle to create a nice folding movement of the milk and also you need the steam power in your machine to be enough. Too little power and the milk will not mix well, too much power and instead of creating a nice consistent swirl to fold itself your milk will just be bubbling all over.

if you are using a small pitcher (which i recommend for silvia because of the steam power). fill the milk to half or slightly less than half. Introduce air into the mix (Stage 1) for only about 4-6 seconds (or when milk gets very slightly warm) by putting the tip just under surface. then plunge inside and angle your wand correctly to create the folding action. once its uncomfortable to touch, your milk is done.

The milk must be good too. use full cream pura or green fields. The milk must be very cold to give you more time to froth. . Seems to work for me. Low fat foams easiest but the foam is stiff.

If you don't want to waste milk but need the practice then fill the pitcher with ice cold water and add a very tiny "smudge" of dishwashing soap to the ice water. Use this method to confirm which position of the wand and angle you need to do stage 2. End result you should get small bubbles instead of large one. If you can post video it would help too.

Try not to do stage 1 for too long. If not sure plunge inside for stage 2 earlier than later is better.


Just need to practice. I find my silvia is actually easier to steam small quantities compared to the vbm double boiler so don't give up.

 

[chikyblink]

One of my decent rosetta. This one really taiko one. Couldn't replicate another after this.

 

[tatsit]

for begineer. french press is better.

personally i own a full metal french press and a small breville grinder.

slowly upgrade from there when one start to appreciate good coffee.

but for office use, press can be leh-zeh to clean up, hence, i turn to diaso dripper. $2 nia, and paper buy from aunty-uc. just throw the paper into the been, plus can also slightly fold the paper fliter after use, scotch tape it and put in a plate in ur cabinet== get rid of smell

where u buy your small breville grinder, and how much?