(GPGT)Espresso machine hoot

[patryn33]

Think Breville is due to the recent marketing blitz and that they are priced very well for a grinder built-in machine.

Leaning towards ECM.... hmm.

Yes they great at marketing globally
If u drink a lot of espresso like my buddy his 2 machines broke down after like 5yrs. Water everywhere he said. Of course they not expensive machines. His decent cost more naturally

 

[patryn33]

ecm is related to profitec.. German brand if I m not wrong.. Quite tempting option.. Y not get a 2nd hand first..?

Sister company under same owner, read manufacturing also from same factory
http://coffeegeek.com/forums/espresso/machines/704890

 

[purpleberry]

There's one brand that's made in Taiwan. Can't remember what it's called but it looks well built, with PID, and may fool you into thinking that it's made in Italy if you put it side by side with Bezzera. Came across it at the coffee expo few years ago. Those were the days...

 

[ponders]

There's one brand that's made in Taiwan. Can't remember what it's called but it looks well built, with PID, and may fool you into thinking that it's made in Italy if you put it side by side with Bezzera. Came across it at the coffee expo few years ago. Those were the days...

Is it GINO?

Actually if the machine is using vibration pump then almost always it is a ULKA pump being using. So what's the difference between a machine from another would be the shower and brewhead design?

 

[ultimax1999]

Hi all, am venturing into home barista-Ing. Am intending to get the eureka mignon specialita but I was just wondering where do you all suggest that I might get it from at the best price. Import from overseas or find a local seller? I’m more wary of getting scammed, esp those I see on Carousell or Shopee, not sure if there’s any reliable seller. Can PM me if cannot mention sellers here

 

[Jontoton]

Levercraft Ultra

I've managed to contact the seller, anyone else is interested in getting this?

Did you follow through and purchase it?

I'd be interested in knowing things like costs before deciding.

 

[DriftKing]

Did you follow through and purchase it?

I'd be interested in knowing things like costs before deciding.

In the end didn't follow through purchasing it. I'm keenly awaiting for some maturity in this segment and see what comes around.

From recent reviews it seems it does what it claims, and one of the least retention even comparing with Monolith Max. I still find the form factor a hindrance (Big servo box) and isn't the complete design form and well integrated.

But at its price point it would be a no brainer at that segment, as anything else is at least 1.5x to 2x the price.

 

[roz_sid]

can anyone intro me a cheap and good starter coffee grinder?

 

[wahjohreno]

can anyone intro me a cheap and good starter coffee grinder?

Perhaps you can give us your budget to define “cheap”.

 

[roz_sid]

Perhaps you can give us your budget to define “cheap”.

perhaps below 100 range? is there one thats well known and considered a starter or budget in the coffee world?

 

[wahjohreno]

perhaps below 100 range? is there one thats well known and considered a starter or budget in the coffee world?

Below $100 you’re looking at hand-grinders only. Hario ones work fine.

Don’t buy small skinny ones unless you enjoy a shoulder and arm workout every time you use it.

I think there are only a couple of burr grinders in that range. Braun I think. No experience. But if you’re serious about coffee, I’d skip this price range, or just get a hand grinder until you can afford something in the $700+ range.

When you grow out of the hand grinder, you can still use it for travel.

A baratza encore is the entry entry level. But it’s not in the $100 range.

**Don’t buy blade grinders. They’re just choppers, not really grinders. They get poor results.

 

[pvdwerff1971@gmail.com]

Below $100 you’re looking at hand-grinders only. Hario ones work fine.

Don’t buy small skinny ones unless you enjoy a shoulder and arm workout every time you use it.

I think there are only a couple of burr grinders in that range. Braun I think. No experience. But if you’re serious about coffee, I’d skip this price range, or just get a hand grinder until you can afford something in the $700+ range.

When you grow out of the hand grinder, you can still use it for travel.

A baratza encore is the entry entry level. But it’s not in the $100 range.

**Don’t buy blade grinders. They’re just choppers, not really grinders. They get poor results.

Timemore chesnut c2 is a very nice grinder for around 80sgd. Compared to for example hario slim+ it’s a much better grinder and well suited for everything except espresso (for pressurised porta filter it will also work fine). I use it daily for about a month now for v60, aeropress, french press and cold brew.

 

[wahjohreno]

Timemore chesnut c2 is a very nice grinder for around 80sgd. Compared to for example hario slim+ it’s a much better grinder and well suited for everything except espresso (for pressurised porta filter it will also work fine). I use it daily for about a month now for v60, aeropress, french press and cold brew.

I’m sure there are more hand grinders in the price bracket. I’ve only bought a couple and they’re Hario.

Thanks for filling in the gaps.

 

[tremor]

Hario hand grinder works well, even for espresso brew.

 

[relaxlabrudder]

Below $100 you’re looking at hand-grinders only. Hario ones work fine.

Don’t buy small skinny ones unless you enjoy a shoulder and arm workout every time you use it.

I think there are only a couple of burr grinders in that range. Braun I think. No experience. But if you’re serious about coffee, I’d skip this price range, or just get a hand grinder until you can afford something in the $700+ range.

When you grow out of the hand grinder, you can still use it for travel.

A baratza encore is the entry entry level. But it’s not in the $100 range.

**Don’t buy blade grinders. They’re just choppers, not really grinders. They get poor results.

I had baratza maestro, for really fine, not that great.

 

[ksapple]

Grinders that i can nv afford

 

[ponders]

can anyone intro me a cheap and good starter coffee grinder?

In my earlier espresso days and still experimenting. I was using WPM/Welhome grinders.

under $200 but decent enough.

 

[roz_sid]

Below $100 you’re looking at hand-grinders only. Hario ones work fine.

Don’t buy small skinny ones unless you enjoy a shoulder and arm workout every time you use it.

I think there are only a couple of burr grinders in that range. Braun I think. No experience. But if you’re serious about coffee, I’d skip this price range, or just get a hand grinder until you can afford something in the $700+ range.

When you grow out of the hand grinder, you can still use it for travel.

A baratza encore is the entry entry level. But it’s not in the $100 range.

**Don’t buy blade grinders. They’re just choppers, not really grinders. They get poor results.

thanks for this info. i did some research as well and come across the encore, which i think is wat i am considering. amazon usa sells ard 140usd. but cannot be shipped to sg. will look into this tho thanks.

Timemore chesnut c2 is a very nice grinder for around 80sgd. Compared to for example hario slim+ it’s a much better grinder and well suited for everything except espresso (for pressurised porta filter it will also work fine). I use it daily for about a month now for v60, aeropress, french press and cold brew.

Thanks but hand grinder isnt what i am looking for as i can be lazy in the morning haa.

I’m sure there are more hand grinders in the price bracket. I’ve only bought a couple and they’re Hario.

Thanks for filling in the gaps.

Thanks for ur input

 

[roz_sid]

In my earlier espresso days and still experimenting. I was using WPM/Welhome grinders.

under $200 but decent enough.

thanks for ur input

 

[chanvh]

Nice set up you have there, should go some way before you feel the perpetual need to upgrade again

1) I don't recommend pulling single shots as you rightfully mentioned that the basket design is different and hence extraction may be difficult to pull off. Would rather just go straight to the double shot baskets, it'll be better use of your time since you already invested so much in the machines. If you do still want to pull single shots, I did remember seeing a video of someone first dosing the narrower portion of the basket first and tamping it lightly (with a smaller tamper), then filling it with more grinds on the wider rim of the basket afterwards and tamping with a regular tamper. You would need a different smaller tamping tool for this to work though.

2) How you would measure is start off with a brewing ratio, that is how many grams of coffee (your input) to how many grams of liquid espresso (your output). Typically I like to start at 1:2 and adjust based on taste from there. If you are not doing a pre-infusion, you would start your timer the same time as when you start pulling the shot and typically you would want somewhere between 20-30 seconds from start to finish.

3) This question requires a deeper explanation and I recommend you to watch James Hoffman's "Understanding Espresso" series videos on them. You can find it here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTFsBqhpLes. A very basic idea is that the more under extracted your espresso is when it will likely taste sour, you would want to go finer to increase the extraction time and vice versa if it is over extracted where it likely will taste bitter.

1. thanks for the advise I saw my baskets the max range for double is 16g and for single its 8g. I found out that if I do fill to the recommended 8g or slightly more it works well with a spicy, deep roasty taste shot on the Bezzera 80/20 blend. Definitely, single is a lot more challenging but I don't think there is anyway around it if I don't feel like ingesting 14g at one go each time. I did the regular tamp but ensured there was ample pressure during tamp. It was irregular before but now I know as the beans age, a little more of each element in the workflow will help maintain consistency.

2. so, this makes sense I did time from start to finish and my nicer shots tend to end between 21-24secs. It definitely is always consistent this way. I ran some pulycaf last weekend through the machine (its like cafimax) and the taste came out much purer and cleaner.

3. It make sense I've checked it out thanks much!