Gpu uplorry, need upgrade suggestions

[Nickzz]

RX580 uplorried yesterday. Sent in for repair but may take months.
On a tight budget but hope can find a cheap card that provide reasonable boost over the 580 as i have one eye on Navi due to come soon. My original plan was to hold the 580 until Navi but..

Looking at the 1080Ti-RTX 2060-2080 range and the Vega 64 offer from sapphire and the R7 that recently launched

Not sure which i should go for


Thanks in advance

 

[-Grift-]

https://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/...ystems-sapphire-rx-vega-64-promo-5991307.html
Very good value especially if Undervolted and overclocked

 

[Nickzz]

https://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/...ystems-sapphire-rx-vega-64-promo-5991307.html
Very good value especially if Undervolted and overclocked

Yup i know. Thst offer damn tempting and nice But worried about driver support etc as mature alr might not be much improvement. Comparing this with the 2060 which one is better?

Or should i just whack on R7/1080Ti tier and forget abt Navi as heard first Navi cards are mid tier de and not high end?

 

[Irenicus]

If your budget is around $500, you can also consider this Galax RTX2060 at $499 from Shopee:

https://shopee.sg/GALAX-GeForce%C2%AE-RTX-2060-(1-Click-OC)-6GB-GDDR6-192-bit-DP-HDMI-DVI-D-i.16573133.1881725698

GTX1080Ti is $1K and above, personally, I would go for RTX 2080 at that price point due to newer architecture and driver support. Radeon VII performance is worse than RTX 2080, lacks ray tracing and more power hungry, so only consider it if you can find it cheaper than the RTX 2080. Just take note that ray tracing performance isn't very good with RTX 20xx series and not many games use it. I think 2nd or 3rd gen RTX cards should perform better with ray tracing.

Radeon VII review:

https://www.anandtech.com/show/13923/the-amd-radeon-vii-review

 

[Nickzz]

If your budget is around $500, you can also consider this Galax RTX2060 at $499 from Shopee:

https://shopee.sg/GALAX-GeForce%C2%AE-RTX-2060-(1-Click-OC)-6GB-GDDR6-192-bit-DP-HDMI-DVI-D-i.16573133.1881725698

GTX1080Ti is $1K and above, personally, I would go for RTX 2080 at that price point due to newer architecture and driver support. Radeon VII performance is worse than RTX 2080, lacks ray tracing and more power hungry, so only consider it if you can find it cheaper than the RTX 2080. Just take note that ray tracing performance isn't very good with RTX 20xx series and not many games use it. I think 2nd or 3rd gen RTX cards should perform better with ray tracing.

Radeon VII review:

https://www.anandtech.com/show/13923/the-amd-radeon-vii-review

Yup but have to compromise on my budget. If $500 maybe can go for Navi when release But if spend 1k no Navi le.

Ohh i see. But hear Nvidia perf sometimes go down when next gen come out? So worried about that.

As for R7, is there a chance that drivers will help it beat 2080? Since it just release and not mature yet.


Best is to go for V64 or 2060 then wait for Gen 2? Gaming at 1080P atm.

 

[Gaminator]

Yup i know. Thst offer damn tempting and nice But worried about driver support etc as mature alr might not be much improvement. Comparing this with the 2060 which one is better?

Or should i just whack on R7/1080Ti tier and forget abt Navi as heard first Navi cards are mid tier de and not high end?

For VEGA64, I'd say drivers are quite mature, and more feature rich than nVidia actually. The hoopla was the recent Radeon VII driver which had a bad press release driver that reviewers were using. The 19.2.1 Radeon VII driver was stable enough when I'd used it, now AMD has released a unified (including the Radeon VII) driver (19.2.2) that I'd installed yesterday, no problemo! So, for VEGA series, drivers are mature enough to ensure good gameplay, support and stability.

 

[Nickzz]

For VEGA64, I'd say drivers are quite mature, and more feature rich than nVidia actually. The hoopla was the recent Radeon VII driver which had a bad press release driver that reviewers were using. The 19.2.1 Radeon VII driver was stable enough when I'd used it, now AMD has released a unified (including the Radeon VII) driver (19.2.2) that I'd installed yesterday, no problemo! So, for VEGA series, drivers are mature enough to ensure good gameplay, support and stability.

Yup thats what i worry. Mature le means less chance of gains compared to R7 which seems like got potential to edge 2080 once drivers are mature. Agree that the driver suite quite nice compared to AMD but im pretty much on the fence also cos this 580 less than 2 years uplorry plus no warranty. So wary to buy AMD again also.


V64 or RTX 2060 with chance for Navi upgrade or R7 and RTx 2080 without Navi upgrade?

 

[Ferolare]

Go all in and stop reading tech news for the next X years bah

 

[Irenicus]

Another alternative is to get Gtx1060 as a temporary stop gap measure, since the 6GB version is available for around $300 or less. Then wait for Navi or next gen RTX cards, before deciding whether to upgrade.

 

[Nickzz]

Go all in and stop reading tech news for the next X years bah

Sigh. Missed the V64 sapphire deal. Now at SLS but not sure what gpu to go for. Leaning towards R7 but cooling and future driver support might be bare in the future since it is a rarity.

 

[Nickzz]

Another alternative is to get Gtx1060 as a temporary stop gap measure, since the 6GB version is available for around $300 or less. Then wait for Navi or next gen RTX cards, before deciding whether to upgrade.

Think i might go all in and forget abt Navi bah. Can always sell if really want it.


But not sure what gpu to buy.

 

[Gaminator]

Sigh. Missed the V64 sapphire deal. Now at SLS but not sure what gpu to go for. Leaning towards R7 but cooling and future driver support might be bare in the future since it is a rarity.

I have faith that there'll be good support from AMD for this card. Looking at its performance in Metro Exodus and Far Cry New Dawn, not bad at all with the latest driver. I'm playing the former at Ultra without nVidia proprietary stuff and it looks great and run just fine at about 50fps to 90fps at 3440x1440 with 19.2.2 unified driver (unlike the 19.2.1 Radeon VII only driver).

 

[swathe]

The end of latest driver support usually happens for AMD. For nVidia, the latest driver still can be installed for cards that are 10 years old.

 

[Nickzz]

I have faith that there'll be good support from AMD for this card. Looking at its performance in Metro Exodus and Far Cry 5, not bad at all with the latest driver. I'm playing the former at Ultra without nVidia proprietary stuff and it looks great and run just fine at about 50fps to 90fps at 3440x1440 with 19.2.2 unified driver (unlike the 19.2.1 Radeon VII only driver).

Is Vega FE ( the one with the blue workstation) still supported mainly??


No stock for R7. Gotta wait 2 months. ):

 

[watzup_ken]

Sigh. Missed the V64 sapphire deal. Now at SLS but not sure what gpu to go for. Leaning towards R7 but cooling and future driver support might be bare in the future since it is a rarity.

Keep a lookout because they may restock. At least they did that for the RX 580 4GB Pulse offer.

Vega 64 is a good card, but do make sure your PSU is up to it.

 

[watzup_ken]

The end of latest driver support usually happens for AMD. For nVidia, the latest driver still can be installed for cards that are 10 years old.

That is not true. Even Nvidia will cut off driver support on older cards at some point. Both companies cannot perpetually support every single card they released as this adds to the size and complexity of the drivers. Also since the card GPU architect is different, even if it "supports", it does nothing (no improvement) for the older cards. If that is the case, what is the point of updating to a new driver if there is no incremental benefits?

 

[harky]

my also uplorry, rma take mths

now using MB one

 

[Nickzz]

my also uplorry, rma take mths

now using MB one

Sama. I worse cos my cpu no igpu so gotta wait months. No chance of telling whether can repair successfully anot also cos warranty not covered

 

[wongminmin]

Think i might go all in and forget abt Navi bah. Can always sell if really want it.


But not sure what gpu to buy.

rx 580/4 $199
rx 580/8 $250
used rx 580/8 $200~$220
gtx 1060/6 $280~$300

 

[Irenicus]

If Radeon VII is the same price as RTX2080, then it's better to choose the RTX2080 as it has more features and less power hungry.