Gpu uplorry, need upgrade suggestions

[12122012]

The end of latest driver support usually happens for AMD. For nVidia, the latest driver still can be installed for cards that are 10 years old.

u sure or not my gtx460 launched in july 11,2010 and last supporting driver is back in march 27,2018, that's less than 8yrs

 

[Gaminator]

If Radeon VII is the same price as RTX2080, then it's better to choose the RTX2080 as it has more features and less power hungry.

Can get a VII for 1100sgd, cheapest RTX2080 is a Palit RTX2080 at about 1200+sgd. Now depends on whether willing to pay that extra 100+SGD for the RTX2080. I've already tried an RTX2080 Ti, sold it off and went for the Radeon VII. It boils down to which you think is more worthwhile.

 

[-Grift-]

Can get a VII for 1100sgd, cheapest RTX2080 is a Palit RTX2080 at about 1200+sgd. Now depends on whether willing to pay that extra 100+SGD for the RTX2080. I've already tried an RTX2080 Ti, sold it off and went for the Radeon VII. It boils down to which you think is more worthwhile.

Evga 2080 from Newegg can be had for $1150 after shipping etc. International warranty to Taiwan too

 

[Irenicus]

I just did a simple check from Lazada, cheapest Zotac RTX2080 can be found for $1089 and Galax RTX2080 is $1098, both with local warranty. Prices are quite similar to Radeon VII.

In my opinion, if choosing between Radeon VII and RTX2080, then should go for RTX2080, since similar price, more features and lesser power draw.

 

[Nickzz]

I just did a simple check from Lazada, cheapest Zotac RTX2080 can be found for $1089 and Galax RTX2080 is $1098, both with local warranty. Prices are quite similar to Radeon VII.

In my opinion, if choosing between Radeon VII and RTX2080, then should go for RTX2080, since similar price, more features and lesser power draw.

Hmm i see. How about driver maturity? I think the hbm size and speed is pushing me towards the R7 though. It is a workstation card though right? Will there be drivers for gaming or for ws only?

 

[12122012]

Hmm i see. How about driver maturity? I think the hbm size and speed is pushing me towards the R7 though. It is a workstation card though right? Will there be drivers for gaming or for ws only?

 

[Koenig168]

Anandtech's review is more reliable, giving the RTX 2080 a 5-6% advantage.

DF complains about games being CPU bound (yes, CPU bound) while testing with the i7-8700K at 3.4GHz. This CPU can easily go 1 whole GHz faster.

AT takes CPU out of the equation by running an i7-7820X at 4.3GHz.

 

[watzup_ken]

If Radeon VII is the same price as RTX2080, then it's better to choose the RTX2080 as it has more features and less power hungry.

This is debatable. The Vega 7 is marketed not just as a gaming GPU, but also packs a lot of pro features that is available on their Radeon Pro series that cost a lot more. So if you are a content creator and also want to game, the V7 is really a good card. Also while the 16GB seems like an overkill at this point, 8GB is starting to become a limiting factor in some games. With RT and DLSS on, this will require more VRAM.

 

[watzup_ken]

Hmm i see. How about driver maturity? I think the hbm size and speed is pushing me towards the R7 though. It is a workstation card though right? Will there be drivers for gaming or for ws only?

This is marketed as a gaming card, but with some pro features enabled.

 

[Irenicus]

From the start, TS never mentioned that he wanted to use the card for workstation purposes. Only now then TS asked about the workstation capabilities for his future video card. And TS started the post asking about video cards which are all marketed for gaming, RTX2060, Vega 64, GTX1080TI, RTX2080, so on pure bang for the buck and features, it will be better to choose the RTX2080 at this price point. TS's Rx580 card that died is also a gaming card.

Regarding HBM, I wouldn't be betting my horses on it providing some miracle performance improvement at a later stage. Rather for both AMD and Nvidia, it's more likely to be bug fixing and smaller reasonable improvements.

Can TS clarify exactly what is his main usage (gaming or workstation) for his future video card?

 

[swathe]

That is not true. Even Nvidia will cut off driver support on older cards at some point. Both companies cannot perpetually support every single card they released as this adds to the size and complexity of the drivers. Also since the card GPU architect is different, even if it "supports", it does nothing (no improvement) for the older cards. If that is the case, what is the point of updating to a new driver if there is no incremental benefits?

New driver support for new OS builds, compatibility and bug fixes. Doesn’t have to be performance gains.

You can go to AMD and nvidia driver pages and you will realize how poor is AMD support for older cards.

 

[watzup_ken]

New driver support for new OS builds, compatibility and bug fixes. Doesn’t have to be performance gains.

You can go to AMD and nvidia driver pages and you will realize how poor is AMD support for older cards.

I have certainly not seen Nvidia mentioning they fix a bug with an old GPU in their change log. Have still seen driver with fixes for GTX 9xx series or earlier? While you may not believe, but the fact is that old GPUs are often left out of updates even though they are sort of supported. Also, I would like to know which AMD card series you own where they have dropped the update?

 

[watzup_ken]

From the start, TS never mentioned that he wanted to use the card for workstation purposes. Only now then TS asked about the workstation capabilities for his future video card. And TS started the post asking about video cards which are all marketed for gaming, RTX2060, Vega 64, GTX1080TI, RTX2080, so on pure bang for the buck and features, it will be better to choose the RTX2080 at this price point. TS's Rx580 card that died is also a gaming card.

Can TS clarify exactly what is his main usage (gaming or workstation) for his future video card?

I don't question what TS wants to get. We share the information, while he decides what he wants to get ultimately. I am just pointing out that while you mentioned that RTX 2080 is a good buy because of xx features, I am also pointed out the benefits for the Vega 7.

By the way OT a little, I was gaming on Resident Evil 2 and boy is the game very demanding. While adjusting the game settings, its warning me that memory consumption will go up to about 8.9GB. And it is the first time I can feel the GTX 1080 Ti under serious load with the hot air that is exhausted out of my casing.

 

[Irenicus]

Yes, I'm well aware that TS is free to buy whatever he pleases regardless of what we recommend.

I'm only asking TS to clarify his usage for his video card since he only just asked about the workstation capabilities, so that we can make better recommendations.

 

[Viper0402]

I don't question what TS wants to get. We share the information, while he decides what he wants to get ultimately. I am just pointing out that while you mentioned that RTX 2080 is a good buy because of xx features, I am also pointed out the benefits for the Vega 7.

By the way OT a little, I was gaming on Resident Evil 2 and boy is the game very demanding. While adjusting the game settings, its warning me that memory consumption will go up to about 8.9GB. And it is the first time I can feel the GTX 1080 Ti under serious load with the hot air that is exhausted out of my casing.

I'm playing RE2 just now too on the new SAPPHIRE NITRO+ Radeon™ RX Vega64 8G HBM2 bought at $555.
Just redeemed the game RE2 and playing!
Everything very smooth on my PC !
Yeah agree on the memory consumption.

PC specs as follows:
i7-3770k overclocked to 4.2GHz with Noctua NH-U12S
ASUS P8Z77-V-DELUXE
Kingston HyperX FURY 16GB Kit (2x8GB) 1866MHz
SAPPHIRE NITRO+ Radeon™ RX Vega64 8G HBM2 !
WD VelociRaptor(DHTZ) 1TB 10kRPM SATA HDD
Samsung SpinPoint F1 750GB SATA-II HDD
Eizo FORIS FS2333 IPS
Creative Sound Blaster Z
Samsung 20x SATA DVD-RW RAM
Creative MegaWorks 550THX
Silverstone Strider 850W Modular PSU
Corsair Obsidian Series 450D Mid Tower Case

Compared to previous SAPPHIRE Tri-X Radeon™ R9 FURY 4G HBM !

 

[Nickzz]

From the start, TS never mentioned that he wanted to use the card for workstation purposes. Only now then TS asked about the workstation capabilities for his future video card. And TS started the post asking about video cards which are all marketed for gaming, RTX2060, Vega 64, GTX1080TI, RTX2080, so on pure bang for the buck and features, it will be better to choose the RTX2080 at this price point. TS's Rx580 card that died is also a gaming card.

Regarding HBM, I wouldn't be betting my horses on it providing some miracle performance improvement at a later stage. Rather for both AMD and Nvidia, it's more likely to be bug fixing and smaller reasonable improvements.

Can TS clarify exactly what is his main usage (gaming or workstation) for his future video card?

Gaming. I sometimes play sims 3 with a lot of mods to build house and render and the game will lag even at 1080p with 8gb Vram from the Rx580 and 16gb oced DDR4 sys ram. So wonder if HBM might mitigate this. And that R7 is cheaper also hence im more drawn to it.

 

[Nickzz]

Yes, I'm well aware that TS is free to buy whatever he pleases regardless of what we recommend.

I'm only asking TS to clarify his usage for his video card since he only just asked about the workstation capabilities, so that we can make better recommendations.

Np. This is my first time looking at a dual ws/gaming card so wondering what are the differences in terms of drivers etc. But primarily using it for gaming and benching

 

[longsiew]

if u game a lot just get the highest end gpu ba.

 

[Nickzz]

if u game a lot just get the highest end gpu ba.

No $$


Finally settled on the R7. But so far onky powercolour selling R7? Nothing from asus or msi yet?

 

[Irenicus]

Radeon VII and RTX2080 are overkill for the 1080p resolution that you are playing at and Sims 3. And Sims 3 is also not a very well optimized game.

You should be looking at RTX2060 or RTX2070 instead. But as I mentioned before, if you really want to spend $1K on a video card for gaming, then RTX2080 is the better bang for the buck. You also have to check whether your power supply can support Radeon VII as it is more power hungry.