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https://www.channelnewsasia.com/new...-food-delivery-singapore-coronavirus-13018532

Grab says its app has seen a total of 198 million downloads, although it has yet to turn profitable.

Singapore is still quite behind compared to China, when it comes to usage of digital money. There are still so many mom and pop shops that use only Nets and so many wet market, hawker centers that use only cash. Grabpay could go and atleast distrupt all those places where currently only cash or nets is used.

It is so silly that grab pay decided to tieup with mastercard, why would I use grabpay mastercard when there are so many other credit cards that give better offers. Instead, grabpay should have tied up with nets. That would have unlocked so much opportunity at shops that currently only accept nets.
 

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Singapore is still quite behind compared to China, when it comes to usage of digital money. There are still so many mom and pop shops that use only Nets and so many wet market, hawker centers that use only cash. Grabpay could go and atleast distrupt all those places where currently only cash or nets is used.

It is so silly that grab pay decided to tieup with mastercard, why would I use grabpay mastercard when there are so many other credit cards that give better offers. Instead, grabpay should have tied up with nets. That would have unlocked so much opportunity at shops that currently only accept nets.

if you open mom and pop shops, you will not accept grabpay. Do you know how much Grab charges?
 

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Singapore is still quite behind compared to China, when it comes to usage of digital money. There are still so many mom and pop shops that use only Nets and so many wet market, hawker centers that use only cash. Grabpay could go and atleast distrupt all those places where currently only cash or nets is used.

It is so silly that grab pay decided to tieup with mastercard, why would I use grabpay mastercard when there are so many other credit cards that give better offers. Instead, grabpay should have tied up with nets. That would have unlocked so much opportunity at shops that currently only accept nets.

do you know how much alipay and wechat pay charge in china?
 

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Singapore is still quite behind compared to China, when it comes to usage of digital money. There are still so many mom and pop shops that use only Nets and so many wet market, hawker centers that use only cash. Grabpay could go and atleast distrupt all those places where currently only cash or nets is used.

It is so silly that grab pay decided to tieup with mastercard, why would I use grabpay mastercard when there are so many other credit cards that give better offers. Instead, grabpay should have tied up with nets. That would have unlocked so much opportunity at shops that currently only accept nets.

if you open mom and pop shops, you will not accept grabpay. Do you know how much Grab charges?

Grab charges 0.8%, same as Nets, according to my friend who accepts Grabpay, as of March 2020.

For Nets vs Grab, it is not so much as to how much you charge. Mom and pop stores are usually by more elderly people, and they do not know how to use or trust technology. I recently used Grabpay at this hawker store, his phone somehow no notification on received payment (some issue with network or his phone), but my side says payment made. Grab refused to do anything and asked me to settle with the merchant myself as they claimed the payment has gone through. In the end, have to pay him cash (ie double pay) first, before I can go off. He did call me at night to say that he did receive the Grabpay money, so now I have to go back to get back my money (I don't think he knows how to refund from Grab app).

Not sure if this is a tie up for Grab and Nets, but when I look at his phone while he checks, he checks the Nets merchant app (ie 1 QR code for Nets, Grab etc). Or is he just not technologically savvy. And he mentioned that whole day, only me and someone else used Grabpay (both no payment received notification). So the usage rate is also very very low.

On the other hand, Nets is just a terminal. If something is not right, the money won't go through and is generally more foolproof, compared to Grab, especially those using their own phones and not technologically savvy. You want them to check phone for incoming payments, rather than printed black and white receipt.
 
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Grab charges 0.8%, same as Nets, according to my friend who accepts Grabpay, as of March 2020.

For Nets vs Grab, it is not so much as to how much you charge. Mom and pop stores are usually by more elderly people, and they do not know how to use or trust technology. I recently used Grabpay at this hawker store, his phone somehow no notification on received payment (some issue with network or his phone), but my side says payment made. Grab refused to do anything and asked me to settle with the merchant myself as they claimed the payment has gone through. In the end, have to pay him cash (ie double pay) first, before I can go off. He did call me at night to say that he did receive the Grabpay money, so now I have to go back to get back my money (I don't think he knows how to refund from Grab app).

Not sure if this is a tie up for Grab and Nets, but when I look at his phone while he checks, he checks the Nets merchant app (ie 1 QR code for Nets, Grab etc). Or is he just not technologically savvy. And he mentioned that whole day, only me and someone else used Grabpay (both no payment received notification). So the usage rate is also very very low.

On the other hand, Nets is just a terminal. If something is not right, the money won't go through and is generally more foolproof, compared to Grab, especially those using their own phones and not technologically savvy. You want them to check phone for incoming payments, rather than printed black and white receipt.

Thanks for sharing your experience. Yes phone is not so reliable. But atleast those shops who have already invested in the NETS terminal, somehow grab should try and leverage that NETS infrastructure. The tie up of Grab with Mastercard is useless in my opinion.

I just received my GrabPay mastercard today. I will use it to top up with my Amex true cashback card, which I also received recently, so I am in the 6 month promo of 3% cashback. I can use the Grabpay card whereever visa/master is accepted but amex is not accepted. But after 6 months or if Amex stops the cashback on grabpay top up, I am going to chuck away the grabpay mastercard.
 
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Thanks for sharing your experience. Yes phone is not so reliable. But atleast those shops who have already invested in the NETS terminal, somehow grab should try and leverage that NETS infrastructure. The tie up of Grab with Mastercard is useless in my opinion.

I just received my GrabPay mastercard today. I will use it to top up with my Amex true cashback card, which I also received recently, so I am in the 6 month promo of 3% cashback. I can use the Grabpay card whereever visa/master is accepted but amex is not accepted. But after 6 months or if Amex stops the cashback on grabpay top up, I am going to chuck away the grabpay mastercard.

Don't think Nets terminal, especially the older ones, are compatible with Grab.

I'm using stuff on Grab Mastercard, that do not give points for most credit cards, yet still give for Grab Mastercard. So still double dipping this way, so yes, it is still alive for a small number of people.
 

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Thanks for sharing your experience. Yes phone is not so reliable. But atleast those shops who have already invested in the NETS terminal, somehow grab should try and leverage that NETS infrastructure. The tie up of Grab with Mastercard is useless in my opinion.

I just received my GrabPay mastercard today. I will use it to top up with my Amex true cashback card, which I also received recently, so I am in the 6 month promo of 3% cashback. I can use the Grabpay card whereever visa/master is accepted but amex is not accepted. But after 6 months or if Amex stops the cashback on grabpay top up, I am going to chuck away the grabpay mastercard.

do you manage to topup grab with TCB? looks like now have to add card first
 

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do you manage to topup grab with TCB? looks like now have to add card first

Yes, there is check box to save the card, I clicked the checkbox and the amex card is now saved and I was able to topup.

Damn! Grabpay has even blocked AXS payment. What is the point of being a mastercard, if you cannot use it in places where mastercard is used. I would have just one shot paid off my iras taxes remaining GIRO amount, if they had allowed GPMC.
 
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Yes, there is check box to save the card, I clicked the checkbox and the amex card is now saved and I was able to topup.

Damn! Grabpay has even blocked AXS payment. What is the point of being a mastercard, if you cannot use it in places where mastercard is used.

AXS blocked Grab a long time ago already
 

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AXS blocked Grab a long time ago already

Yeah, no wonder, I was never keen about this GPMC, until now. It is only after I learnt that Amex TCB card gives cashback on GPMC topup that I applied for it.
 

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Not sure if this is a tie up for Grab and Nets, but when I look at his phone while he checks, he checks the Nets merchant app (ie 1 QR code for Nets, Grab etc). Or is he just not technologically savvy.

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If I remember correctly, NETS is the settlement agency for all the e-wallets under the SG-QR code scheme.
 

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Grab Topup using Spree Credit Card become any transaction code that no longer earn 2% Cash Rebate ?
 

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Grab Topup using Spree Credit Card become any transaction code that no longer earn 2% Cash Rebate ?

Spree is Visa right? Visa already changed the merchant code for grab topup to quasi cash, so no Visa card will give any rebate for cash topup.

Right now only Amex TCB gets you cashback for Grabtopup.
 
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