High cholesterol

[rogze79]

If your doctor still does not understand how to mitigate cardiovascular risk beyond prescribing statins, then it may be time to seek a more informed medical professional.

https://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/threads/high-cholesterol.7003688/page-29#post-155519729

It's just a one off basic screening. I'm not worried about cholesterol. I do not think its an issue. Our body makes most of it.

That doctor himself was in terrible shape. Obese. Skin issues. Heavy, laboured breathing when talking to me.

I'm of the opinion that insulin is critical yet overlooked. Its probably the cause of many health issues we see today.

 

[Mecisteus]

Went for health screening. All my markers are out of range.

Those markers that are supposed to be good, higher. Those suppose to be bad, lower.

Fasting Insulin at 2.5 (done at another clinic)

BMI-23

Dunno about other doctors, the doctor I went to, mention I might need statins for extremely high ldl and cholesterol in future. nOTHING else said about other markers.

So what?

We have discussed before.

I'm metabolically fine in most of my markers but my LDL can remain stubbornly high. Trigs in the 50-60s.

Personally, I look at ApoB and Lp(a).. Also I did MRI, CT scan, echo, CIMT, ec. All are perfect.

If scan is not good, that means there are signs of atherosclerosis. I will resort to meds eventually.

Since my scan is good, I can avoid meds.

 

[Mecisteus]

It's just a one off basic screening. I'm not worried about cholesterol. I do not think its an issue. Our body makes most of it.

Yeah everything is fine if your arteries show no signs of atherosclerosis.

If there is, then you will sing a different tune.

 

[rarenick]

It's just a one off basic screening. I'm not worried about cholesterol. I do not think its an issue. Our body makes most of it.
That doctor himself was in terrible shape. Obese. Skin issues. Heavy, laboured breathing when talking to me.
I'm of the opinion that insulin is critical yet overlooked. Its probably the cause of many health issues we see today.

Dunno is ironic or not if the doctors that advise us are unhealthy. How much do they know and how can they advocate holistic healthy lifestyle instead of just prescribing statin?

 

[vj_style]

High cholesterol is more a result of bad diet than exercise. Speaking from personal experience. Lots of people think their diet is okay, and that couldn't be further from the truth.

 

[rarenick]

We have discussed before.
I'm metabolically fine in most of my markers but my LDL can remain stubbornly high. Trigs in the 50-60s.
Personally, I look at ApoB and Lp(a).. Also I did MRI, CT scan, echo, CIMT, ec. All are perfect.
If scan is not good, that means there are signs of atherosclerosis. I will resort to meds eventually.
Since my scan is good, I can avoid meds.

Just curious u got do exercise, eat healthy, sleep well and mostly calm?

 

[rogze79]

We have discussed before.

I'm metabolically fine in most of my markers but my LDL can remain stubbornly high. Trigs in the 50-60s.

Personally, I look at ApoB and Lp(a).. Also I did MRI, CT scan, echo, CIMT, ec. All are perfect.

If scan is not good, that means there are signs of atherosclerosis. I will resort to meds eventually.

Since my scan is good, I can avoid meds.

I'm never in favor of drugs. Preventive meds when there's signs of plaques?

It's all about the food.

I guess you are not aware that your often-quoted Dr Gil is taking statins.

 

[Mecisteus]

Dunno is ironic or not if the doctors that advise us are unhealthy. How much do they know and how can they advocate holistic healthy lifestyle instead of just prescribing statin?

lol don't be too quick to judge the doctors.

See my post #623.

Plagues in arteries will take years to develop.

Just curious u got do exercise, eat healthy, sleep well and mostly calm?

Stress, sleep, etc are definitely small contributing factors to consider.

I won't say I'm perfect. But I tried.

 

[Mecisteus]

I'm never in favor of drugs. Preventive meds when there's signs of plaques?

It's all about the food.

I guess you are not aware that your often-quoted Dr Gil is taking statins.

Who likes to take drugs ?

My point is you take when you REALLY need to take.

You avoid if you CAN.

But please don't be hypocrite anti pharma, bla bla bla ignoring meds when you REALLY need that.

 

[rogze79]

High cholesterol is more a result of bad diet than exercise. Speaking from personal experience. Lots of people think their diet is okay, and that couldn't be further from the truth.

What's wrong with high cholesterol?

My food is as simple as ABC. Beef, eggs, butter on sourdough and generous salt.

 

[rarenick]

High cholesterol is more a result of bad diet than exercise. Speaking from personal experience. Lots of people think they diet is okay, and that couldn't be further from the truth.

Not quite agree. I feel that there are so many factors. Some people anyhow eat but no high LDL, some people very disciplined in diet but still high LDL. This means there could be some other factors causing the high LDL. I also believe that exercise (when done appropriately) can help increase HDL and lower LDL.

 

[Checkyrmed]

It's just a one off basic screening. I'm not worried about cholesterol. I do not think its an issue. Our body makes most of it.

That doctor himself was in terrible shape. Obese. Skin issues. Heavy, laboured breathing when talking to me.

I'm of the opinion that insulin is critical yet overlooked. Its probably the cause of many health issues we see today.

Indeed, insulin resistance remains the single most significant determinant of cardiovascular risk. It is concerning that this critical concept has not been more widely incorporated into their continuing medical education programs. The oversight in updating clinical guidelines to emphasize the importance of insulin sensitivity not only leaves many practitioners inadequately informed but also compromises patient care.

It is imperative that we recognize the profound impact of insulin resistance on lipid profiles and cardiovascular outcomes. The failure to address this in their educational curriculum represents a serious lapse in clinical practice.

 

[ninja99]

You are not understanding my simple statements in English.

There are people with good insulin but high cholesterol.

There are people with both bad insulin and cholesterol.

My case all good only bad ldl

 

[rogze79]

Who likes to take drugs ?

My point is you take when you REALLY need to take.

You avoid if you CAN.

But please don't be hypocrite anti pharma, bla bla bla ignoring meds when you REALLY need that.

You are right. Avoid if you can.

I have not thought of any situations when I need to rely on meds to survive. Drugs are never meant to be in our bodies.

 

[Checkyrmed]

What's wrong with high cholesterol?

My food is as simple as ABC. Beef, eggs, butter on sourdough and generous salt.

 

[yokine3a]

High cholesterol is more a result of bad diet than exercise. Speaking from personal experience. Lots of people think their diet is okay, and that couldn't be further from the truth.

I think my diet is ok too, even my doc dun see any issues with it.

I eat proper lunch with half bowl of rice, mostly veggies, small portion of fish, chicken or pork, non deep fried or oily food.

Afternoon tea break is oats or bread with fruits, no breakfast no dinner. No sugary drink, no alcohol since I am buddhist.

 

[dev_stg_prd]

We have discussed before.

I'm metabolically fine in most of my markers but my LDL can remain stubbornly high. Trigs in the 50-60s.

Personally, I look at ApoB and Lp(a).. Also I did MRI, CT scan, echo, CIMT, ec. All are perfect.

If scan is not good, that means there are signs of atherosclerosis. I will resort to meds eventually.

Since my scan is good, I can avoid meds.

I didn't take my ApoB but my LDL is high and Trigs are low. I watched some informative youtube that I should be ok since I run a few times a week. based on scientific research. Agree ma? Is ApoB expensive?

 

[Mecisteus]

I didn't take my ApoB but my LDL is high and Trigs are low. I watched some informative youtube that I should be ok since I run a few times a week. based on scientific research. Agree ma? Is ApoB expensive?

Stroke patients were also OK initially. Just saying.

ApoB and Lp(a) tests are not expensive.

YouTube videos ?

Avoid those keto freaks channels.

1 trustworthy channel to watch is Nutrition Made Simple by Dr Gil Carvalho.

 

[dev_stg_prd]

Stroke patients were also OK initially. Just saying.

ApoB and Lp(a) tests are not expensive.

YouTube videos ?

Avoid those keto freaks channels.

1 trustworthy channel to watch is Nutrition Made Simple by Dr Gil Carvalho.

did he say high LDL doesn't mean it's bad?

 

[Mecisteus]

did he say high LDL doesn't mean it's bad?

There are cases of discordants.

High LDL but good ApoB.

Low LDL but high ApoB.

ApoB and Lp(a) are more accurate markers.

The channel will emphasize on these markers.