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Thanks once again. I think I may settle for the T460-70 as suggested.

One last question. Would SLS be the dumbest place to get one? Since they are going to be refurbished sets, I doubt the regular Best/Courts/Gain will have them bah?
 

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Thanks once again. I think I may settle for the T460-70 as suggested.

One last question. Would SLS be the dumbest place to get one? Since they are going to be refurbished sets, I doubt the regular Best/Courts/Gain will have them bah?
I don't really trust the refurbished machines at SLS. But this is my personal opinion.
 

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Is there a fixed period which Lenovo will have good sales in a year? I might be able to hold back this purchase till early July.
I checked Lenovo website, shopee, lazada, and seems like E14 is about the same price below $1100.

I think I am the type of old school buyer, will feel more secure with proper manufacturer warranty.
 

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Is there a fixed period which Lenovo will have good sales in a year? I might be able to hold back this purchase till early July.
I checked Lenovo website, shopee, lazada, and seems like E14 is about the same price below $1100.

I think I am the type of old school buyer, will feel more secure with proper manufacturer warranty.
I targeted mine for around Black Friday/Christmas. I think it's a bit far out for you. Am not sure if they run other sales though.
 

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Fn key at the left side of the keyboard was first introduced in 1992
You have to bare in mind that there was no backlit keyboards at that point of time

IBM introduced thinklight so users can work in the dark. This was activated with fn-space key, and was deemed easiest to find at the bottom left of the keyboard


You should have seen HP design. Heh
The power button is between delete and backspace


Correct me if i am wrong, dont lenovo/ibm take the lead in tragic design?

Fn ctrl wrong place, many other buttons also arranged differently, and most recently, the ***** power buttton is a normal button above backspace.

Ppl wanna press backspace will accidentally press the power button
 

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Fn key at the left side of the keyboard was first introduced in 1992
You have to bare in mind that there was no backlit keyboards at that point of time

IBM introduced thinklight so users can work in the dark. This was activated with fn-space key, and was deemed easiest to find at the bottom left of the keyboard


You should have seen HP design. Heh
The power button is between delete and backspace

"You should have seen HP design. Heh
The power button is between delete and backspace"

ASUS too!
 

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Is there a fixed period which Lenovo will have good sales in a year? I might be able to hold back this purchase till early July.
I checked Lenovo website, shopee, lazada, and seems like E14 is about the same price below $1100.

I think I am the type of old school buyer, will feel more secure with proper manufacturer warranty.
what specs u need? I try to run using my Lenovo Pro promo code.
 

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Fn key at the left side of the keyboard was first introduced in 1992
You have to bare in mind that there was no backlit keyboards at that point of time

IBM introduced thinklight so users can work in the dark. This was activated with fn-space key, and was deemed easiest to find at the bottom left of the keyboard


You should have seen HP design. Heh
The power button is between delete and backspace

"You should have seen HP design. Heh
The power button is between delete and backspace"

ASUS too!

hmm.. might be these brands are the ones my colleague had. power button is same size same type of button as delete , right above backspace.

apparently apple did it first for all their laptops so i heard
 

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Fn key at the left side of the keyboard was first introduced in 1992
You have to bare in mind that there was no backlit keyboards at that point of time

IBM introduced thinklight so users can work in the dark. This was activated with fn-space key, and was deemed easiest to find at the bottom left of the keyboard


You should have seen HP design. Heh
The power button is between delete and backspace
Slight correction. Thinklight in older models were activated by Fn + PgUp, which were the bottom left and top right corners of the keyboard, and that made it easy to activate even in the dark by just feeling the corners of the keyboard.
 

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what specs u need? I try to run using my Lenovo Pro promo code.
Hmm I am not that good in such technical aspects. I just need something to bring to school for studies on weekends, do projects and assignments, won't be gaming on it. A front camera is good to have, in case need to zoom for study virtual meeting. I don't mind even it's not lightweight or 14" screen

Sent from Xiaomi POCOPHONE F1 using GAGT
 

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hmm.. might be these brands are the ones my colleague had. power button is same size same type of button as delete , right above backspace.

apparently apple did it first for all their laptops so i heard
So it's not a Thinkpad, as you previously strongly claimed it was.

I went through so many product diagrams and parts diagrams, and couldn't find any that you insisted your colleague had, nor did you come back with details.

Apple's implementation made those buttons stiffer and harder to accidentally press, so you require additional force to depress and engage the button. Also there's a safety mechanism in that you have to hold down the button a bit longer than just depressing it - and these are caught both at the firmware and OS level.
 

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That was the early batch
Mine was already fn-spacebar. Think is ThinkPad R60

After that backlight keyboard was introduced

That’s why to toggle the function for backlight it’s fn-spacebar now


Edit: that was the time I told myself. ****. Laptops need to be light weight to bring around. Lol.

Slight correction. Thinklight in older models were activated by Fn + PgUp, which were the bottom left and top right corners of the keyboard, and that made it easy to activate even in the dark by just feeling the corners of the keyboard.
 
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Hmm I am not that good in such technical aspects. I just need something to bring to school for studies on weekends, do projects and assignments, won't be gaming on it. A front camera is good to have, in case need to zoom for study virtual meeting. I don't mind even it's not lightweight or 14" screen

Sent from Xiaomi POCOPHONE F1 using GAGT
For SUSS, that front camera and working video calls is more a must for collaborations. If you're stuck in virtual classes cos you have to take University Core modules, those are online-only, including presentations.
 

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Don’t get those
Those are duo core processors
At least 8th gen for quad core processors

Thanks once again. I think I may settle for the T460-70 as suggested.

One last question. Would SLS be the dumbest place to get one? Since they are going to be refurbished sets, I doubt the regular Best/Courts/Gain will have them bah?
 

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So it's not a Thinkpad, as you previously strongly claimed it was.

I went through so many product diagrams and parts diagrams, and couldn't find any that you insisted your colleague had, nor did you come back with details.

Apple's implementation made those buttons stiffer and harder to accidentally press, so you require additional force to depress and engage the button. Also there's a safety mechanism in that you have to hold down the button a bit longer than just depressing it - and these are caught both at the firmware and OS level.

i dont really recall which 1 is it liao. alot laptop companies start implementing nonsensical designs like these..
thinkpad P73 also got their sleep button at top right corner lol
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i dont really recall which 1 is it liao. alot laptop companies start implementing nonsensical designs like these..
thinkpad P73 also got their sleep button at top right corner lol
7s8WA.jpg
Hmm. Given that it's the lower print on the button, wouldn't you have to press Fn+bksp to get Sleep?
 

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Cheapest I can find is ThinkPad E14 Gen 2 / ship within 4 weeks

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1. Intel 11th gen i5-1135G7
2. 16 gb ram
3. 512 SSD
4. 14" 100% SRGB screen
5. Fingerprint & backlit keyboard
6. AX wifi
7. 3 years onsite warranty

bad part is it's slightly thicker and heavier at 1.6kg compared to Ts series

$1285.75 ... prob might get it cheaper with combo of shopback / credit card discount



Thanks. Found it on lenovo official shopee and lazada too. Woah, not cheap $1700+. Because thinking to get a laptop for part-time studies, which I believe will have project work and presentation, and my personal laptop Lenovo s410 is crappy using for watching video at home nia.

I saw reseller selling T460 around $600 range with proclaimed warranty. Are these usually legit?

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Anyone here ordered directly from Lenovo sg website before?

I received a faulty laptop, and the replacement initially offered was "a similar model within our resources". Did I just buy a brand new model shipped from their factory in China and now offered a refurbished replacement?

Btw, the laptop I ordered was launched at most 6 months ago, and is still available for sale on Lenovo sg website.

How can I tell if the replacement is a refurbished one? Will looking at the manufacture date help? My order is a customized one, so the faulty laptop showed the Mar 2021 manufacture date - a date i.e. after my order date.
 

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https://www.case.org.sg/consumer_guides_cpfta.aspx

Personally i think they should either repair or refund


Anyone here ordered directly from Lenovo sg website before?

I received a faulty laptop, and the replacement initially offered was "a similar model within our resources". Did I just buy a brand new model shipped from their factory in China and now offered a refurbished replacement?

Btw, the laptop I ordered was launched at most 6 months ago, and is still available for sale on Lenovo sg website.

How can I tell if the replacement is a refurbished one? Will looking at the manufacture date help? My order is a customized one, so the faulty laptop showed the Mar 2021 manufacture date - a date i.e. after my order date.
 
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