Is it really over for Intel®?

[ragnarok95]

It's over for intel. So i bought 265K. Continue my intel journey from 2600K - 4770 - 10700F - 11700K - 265K.

 

[kimsix]

It's over for intel. So i bought 265K. Continue my intel journey from 2600K - 4770 - 10700F - 11700K - 265K.

It is over for @ragnarok95

Can consider order this CKD ram if going for ARL, it will come useful to boost performance
https://v-color.net/products/ddr5-manta-xfinity-rgb-gaming-memory-o-cudimm?variant=46233610256551

 

[ragnarok95]

Can't find a mobo i like on AMD side. lol.

But then, that's just excuses.

 

[Encrypted11]

8000MHz no need CKD. Maybe 8533+.

Typical 24GBx2 Hynix Green should be good for 8000-8400 at 132USD.

Nickel plated copper Iceman heat sink at 30sgd ea.

If a kit runs only 8000 after having a clock driver those are really failed products.

 

[stanlawj]

Overclocking Intel Arrow Lake requires tuning the other tiles (especially memory) to achieve best latency which affects 1% lows in gaming performance.
Ref: Skatterbench's tuning results

https://skatterbencher.com/2024/10/24/arrow-lake-memss-overclocking/

Final result:

Suggested memory overclocking limits on ambient cooling:

Memory Configuration	Gear Type	Memory Frequency
2×16 GB	Gear 2	DDR5-8400
2x 16GB	Gear 4	>DDR5-9000
2x 24 GB	Gear 2	DDR5-9000
2x 24 GB	Gear 4	>DDR5-10000

CUDIMMS DDR5-8000 and higher freq have been demonstrated to improve Arrow Lake performance measurably.

At 130GB/s memory bandwidth and 65ns latency, the memory subsystem is slightly better than the base Apple M4 CPU. Quad-channel memory controller will match M4 Pro CPU bandwidth, but Intel and AMD will never give consumer CPUs this feature.

 

[ragnarok95]

Just setup my 265K today!

 

[iceblendedchoc]

Not over! Intel gpu is coming !

 

[ragnarok95]

Everything runs nicely now.

 

[xonix]

Intel CEO Pat Gelsinger "retires "

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/bus...elsinger-retires-struggling-chipmaker-4782386

 

[ragnarok95]

Finally .

 

[chromeIT]

If you are saying share price then there are many better options.

 

[Phen8210]

" Intel CEO Pat Gelsinger retires retires "

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/bus...elsinger-retires-struggling-chipmaker-4782386

@kimsix your idol has retired

 

[kimsix]

@kimsix your idol has retired

not sure if good or bad news....he was THE Engineer leader.

 

[Phen8210]

not sure if good or bad news....he was THE Engineer leader.

 

[Encrypted11]

He was mentored by Andy Grove, and one of the good engineering leads apart from Intel Israel's lead Mooly Eden running for CEO post Otellini that lost the race.

Main problem is Intel's board and the interests they represent and obsession with financial ratios.

Quick look at Intel Board of Directors vs. Huawei Board of Directors:

https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/newsroom/board-of-directors.html?filters=[-7300596454,2661798488]#gs.adu4oi

https://www.huawei.com/en/executives


Intel Board
50% engineers, 50% MBA/Finance/Bean counters (6 v 6)
incl. former Boeing CFO.

Huawei Board
82% engineers,18% MBA/Finance/Bean counters (14 vs 3)

 

[ragnarok95]

Time for Lisa Su V2.0 to step in.

 

[m0n0n0ke]

He was mentored by Andy Grove, and one of the good engineering leads apart from Intel Israel's lead Mooly Eden running for CEO post Otellini that lost the race.

Main problem is Intel's board and the interests they represent and obsession with financial ratios.

Quick look at Intel Board of Directors vs. Huawei Board of Directors:

https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/newsroom/board-of-directors.html?filters=[-7300596454,2661798488]#gs.adu4oi

https://www.huawei.com/en/executives


Intel Board
50% engineers, 50% MBA/Finance/Bean counters (6 v 6)
incl. former Boeing CFO.

Huawei Board
82% engineers,18% MBA/Finance/Bean counters (14 vs 3)

Maybe intel go too DEI woke also a cause to failure
https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/intel-cuts-dividend-jobs-keeps-dei-striveassetmanagement-aqkbc

 

[xiaofan]

Intel's problem highlights the problem with IDM model for advanced logic product (eg: leading edge CPUs, GPUs, AI, etc). It is just too expensive to chase the leading edge process nodes (3nm and the next 2nm/1nm nodes), even for Intel.

AMD is smart to divest Global Foundries much earlier.

Interestingly for memory product IDM model is still the way to go but they are not on leading process nodes.

Same for analog side, TI/ADI/etc are still mainly using IDM model with some outsourcing.

Let's see if Intel can indeed divest Intel Foundry later. If that happens, I still see Intel Product as a good company which can survive on its own. Intel Foundry will probably not fail as US goverment will support it. But it may not be able to really compete with TSMC in the long run and may give up on advanced nodes like Global Foundries in the future.

 

[Encrypted11]

Lisa Su is overhyped, she's just at the right place right time, but less execution issues relative to the competition. If the fab guy didn't run Intel and Pat/Mooly or those Haifa design leads running the group, there would be no breather.

The ones making the key executive hires and board shuffle were Rory Read. Rory Read brought in a bunch of IBM hires and among them were Lisa Su and Mark Papermaster.

Spoiler

This keynote back then had more than half the speakers formerly from IBM.
Jim Keller and Raja Koduri were also brought in by him.

Edit: If Lisa Su ran Intel, the fate would be the same as Pat. Ousted by the board over PE ratio, dividends and making sure the percentages look good even if they sold less products, less competitiveness as long as costs are low.

 

[ragnarok95]

Lisa Su is overhyped, she's just at the right place right time, but less execution issues relative to the competition. If the fab guy didn't run Intel and Pat/Mooly or those Haifa design leads running the group, there would be no breather.

The ones making the key executive hires and board shuffle were Rory Read. Rory Read brought in a bunch of IBM hires and among them were Lisa Su and Mark Papermaster.

Spoiler

This keynote back then had more than half the speakers formerly from IBM.
Jim Keller and Raja Koduri were also brought in by him.

Edit: If Lisa Su ran Intel, the fate would be the same as Pat. Ousted by the board over PE ratio, dividends and making sure the percentages look good even if they sold less products, less competitiveness as long as costs are low.

Who do you think should intel hire?