Is it really over for Intel®?

Intel is ...

  • dead man walking, soon to be buried

    Votes: 58 50.9%
  • will bounce back, buyed Intc at $10 sure huat!

    Votes: 56 49.1%

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ragnarok95

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Mai la. Don't need waste your money. Save for the 9950X3D.
 

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It may not be over, but may be a very different company, ie, just Intel’s foundry only business, while the chip design part acquired by another major US company. May be we will see Qualcomm Core Elite?
 

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It may not be over, but may be a very different company, ie, just Intel’s foundry only business, while the chip design part acquired by another major US company. May be we will see Qualcomm Core Elite?

I am thinking if the CPU will rise like bitcoin if intel fall because there are believers that never die lol :ROFLMAO:
 

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To hire one who can successfully divest Intel Foundry.

Ironically we may need an MBA here and not an engineer...

Just my personal opinion, I am an engineer myself.
Only way out I think is to sell Intel Foundry to Apple or Google, lol!
Between the 2 I think Google would be more willing to buy the plants than Apple unless some random white knight on a dark horse rides in to save INTC (e.g. Temasek Corp? Netflix? Meta?)
 

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Only way out I think is to sell Intel Foundry to Apple or Google, lol!
Between the 2 I think Google would be more willing to buy the plants than Apple unless some random white knight on a dark horse rides in to save INTC (e.g. Temasek Corp? Netflix? Meta?)

Ya, I think just sell intel at this point.. they are washed. Need someone to resurrect them with external power.

But i will say this, lets say AMD make good use of this opportunity, they may be the next trillion dollar company.
 

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Maybe neither one.

IMHO AVGO (Broadcom) and QCOM (Qualcomm) may have better chance to become a trillion company in the future.

AMD may have higher market value than Qualcomm now, but personally I feel Qualcomm has better potential down the road.

Not into stock market though, it is said 80% of the people are losing money.

Name those which are not/close in the trillion.. else what's the point :)
 
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Intel 200s cpu are very strong, just not good for games :o
Ok...this is like saying: computer is for emailing, just not good for computing. duh
If Intel computer is not good for games, it is finished.
 

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Ok...this is like saying: computer is for emailing, just not good for computing. duh
If Intel computer is not good for games, it is finished.

200 is actually good for games, but not the goodest.

Buyed 200, got more cores for all other tasks.
still good for gaming
still got good connectivity unlike am5, put nvme here, lose gpu lanes there

big concern is losing Pat. :o
 

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200 is actually good for games, but not the goodest.

Buyed 200, got more cores for all other tasks.
still good for gaming
still got good connectivity unlike am5, put nvme here, lose gpu lanes there

big concern is losing Pat. :o

I suggest pat to join AMD and seek revenge from there :)
 

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Let's revisit Jobs and Apple.
Jobs was fired by Apple in 1985, but was later invited back in 1997 after Apple kept failing and failing.

Maybe Intel will go through the same path as Apple? However, Pat Gelsinger is already 63 years old. He will be crossing 70 years old if Intel becomes desperate enough to reinvite him back 10 years later.

 

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Let's revisit Jobs and Apple.
Jobs was fired by Apple in 1985, but was later invited back in 1997 after Apple kept failing and failing.

Maybe Intel will go through the same path as Apple? However, Pat Gelsinger is already 63 years old. He will be crossing 70 years old if Intel becomes desperate enough to reinvite him back 10 years later.



Well, age is a problem.. maybe he really has some problem thats why he got oust?

Like for example
 

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200 is actually good for games, but not the goodest.

Buyed 200, got more cores for all other tasks.
still good for gaming
still got good connectivity unlike am5, put nvme here, lose gpu lanes there

big concern is losing Pat. :o
Can game, just how good it is. People chasing for numbers are still better with a AMD X3D than a 200S cpu.
 

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Can game, just how good it is. People chasing for numbers are still better with a AMD X3D than a 200S cpu.

How much better than your 11700k?
Got try overclock your ddr5 to at least 8000?

9800x3d good but less efficient now, overhyped by amd fans, i see many reviews its cpu power use in games is around 85w, 7800x3d is around 60w and 265k is around 95w

All is not lost for intel gaming :o


I suggest pat to join AMD and seek revenge from there :)

Amd dont want fight tsmc, Pat go there also no use. Pat knows the key for next decade is building chips, i think intel will reap his work in 2 more years
 

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Amd dont want fight tsmc, Pat go there also no use. Pat knows the key for next decade is building chips, i think intel will reap his work in 2 more years

That's possible too, well hopefully they can get successful. Market lack of competition. TSMC establishing their site on Arizona already, main customer will be apple.
 

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How much better than your 11700k?
Got try overclock your ddr5 to at least 8000?

9800x3d good but less efficient now, overhyped by amd fans, i see many reviews its cpu power use in games is around 85w, 7800x3d is around 60w and 265k is around 95w

All is not lost for intel gaming :o




Amd dont want fight tsmc, Pat go there also no use. Pat knows the key for next decade is building chips, i think intel will reap his work in 2 more years
Day to day usage and the games i play, no diff. Just backside itchy want to change.
 
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