jogging and motivation thread

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Oh i see.

Well, for me i am not that super serious a runner and also not really into squeezing more performance out and going onto next level in running like going for a 1:20 HM or 2:55 FM those goals (heck i dont even run those long distances in the first place that pure runners dig so much)...... so i think such generally vids with its snippets of info shd more or less ok and work for me lah.

Even for the calisthenics/strength world, some vids i know wont work for me. I also needed to self DIY something from various vids and then concoct something that i think gives me sustained gains. (I did plateau quite a few times these 2 years).
again.. no offence in any way but i believe subjectively snippets of info can sometimes do more harm than good. I take the view that people should try to understand to the best of their ability the full context of the info.

But I sure I belong to the minorities. If not short form video popularity will not be exploding :ROFLMAO:
 

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i do wonder how to be trained
1) small amount: 1 x banana before a 12km run. Felt the indigestion within first 3km. Slowed down the pace, continue the run until no longer feeling it.
2) full meal: spaghetti bolognaise lunch @ 1230hrs. Run during evening at 1700hrs. Felt the indigestion within first 3km. Had to slow down and let out a few burps before feeling better.

Fwah, power siol.......even banana pre sessions also bloat. You shd see what i do with bananas, i think possibly most folks see until eyeballs big. Friday i buy 2 x racks of bananas one. 🤣

I think best to go liquid first.
Next time if really needed then play with solids.
 

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i do wonder how to be trained
1) small amount: 1 x banana before a 12km run. Felt the indigestion within first 3km. Slowed down the pace, continue the run until no longer feeling it.
2) full meal: spaghetti bolognaise lunch @ 1230hrs. Run during evening at 1700hrs. Felt the indigestion within first 3km. Had to slow down and let out a few burps before feeling better.
can try smaller potions to start. like quarter banana.... eh if i eat one big banana then go run.. can also feel
 

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again.. no offence in any way but i believe subjectively snippets of info can sometimes do more harm than good. I take the view that people should try to understand to the best of their ability the full context of the info.

But I sure I belong to the minorities. If not short form video popularity will not be exploding :ROFLMAO:

Yeah, i know what you mean lah. 🤣
For me generally i also just try and see what works......but i would really watch most of the vids out there, and it could be confusing somewhat.

Even things like plyometrics, last time i used to hoot everything from pogo jumps (left right front back directions all do) and even jumping rope with single leg.
Nowadays the most recent is drop jumps only for vertical and i think i really can settle into this sole exercise and keeping it simple (i also kai siao to bro kuudere) , horizontal ones like broad jumps i also never try atm, maybe not needed.
^^^^
Now, i do know some people do not like plyo and/or do not swear by it......same goes for strength training, quite a lot of runners and esp cyclists hate it.
 

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Yeah, i know what you mean lah. 🤣
For me generally i also just try and see what works......but i would really watch most of the vids out there, and it could be confusing somewhat.

Even things like plyometrics, last time i used to hoot everything from pogo jumps (left right front back directions all do) and even jumping rope with single leg.
Nowadays the most recent is drop jumps only for vertical and i think i really can settle into this sole exercise and keeping it simple (i also kai siao to bro kuudere) , horizontal ones like broad jumps i also never try atm, maybe not needed.
^^^^
Now, i do know some people do not like plyo and/or do not swear by it......same goes for strength training, quite a lot of runners and esp cyclists hate it.
for those running.. if they want speed.. cannot run away from plyometrics. even if not for speed... injury prevention should also be a good motivation.
 

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Fwah, power siol.......even banana pre sessions also bloat. You shd see what i do with bananas, i think possibly most folks see until eyeballs big. Friday i buy 2 x racks of bananas one. 🤣

I think best to go liquid first.
Next time if really needed then play with solids.
in my mind no need to consider "go liquid first" since I have this issue when i was at my peak physical conditions and best digestive capability during my teenage ages to army days.
Pretty clear, only liquids for me, maybe can try gels.

But I am open-minded to try if i don't feel the discomfort.

i believe you can gobble the bananas before the runs, which i used to see my schoolmates do before football games, Nationals and X-country runs. Monkey see monkey do, only to suffer and subsequently feel jelly seeing cos the direct benefit appears pretty obvious, which i have little to no chance to experience.
 
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Not that I disagree (generally I do not take that channel as giving good advice). But fueling in the morning before the session does not work for me.
If I plan on doing a workout or tt or even a long run with effort the next day morning. I will load up on carbs the day before lunch and/or dinner.
If it's a easy daily run or steady run under 90mins, I tend to run fasted. Black coffee with some hydration while lacing up is good for me.
After all the years of watching coach Perry, most of their advise are geared toward above 50s who in general casual runner who may race once or two a year. They are not targeting strong runners. They are cautious with their advice.. so in general those advice that pushes boundaries like periodize cumulative fatigue training they will not even suggest about it. Try this and break sub 20 for 5km, they won't do this types too. In general very safe advice but if you plateau, not a channel to watch to break that plateau.
 

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Steady lah.......hoot from Hillview area RC all the way to Spooner end at Kg Bahru and then back, for 26k?

But i think that is about the only way / only place you can do such distance. Other than running brainlessly in loops at the stadium. (can puke one)
Yeah rail corridor.

I have no issues running numerous laps on track. Just thought of running in the shade, so green corridor is a better option.
i used to run rail corridor since i live along hindhede walk... from there to the Alexandra bridge is 7km... never went further than that.... if you do run on wednesday about 6pm onwards ping me.... i usually try to do 8 -14km...
Sure, but I usually come home 7pm from work, excluding fridays which is 6.30pm. Since I come home late and rail corridor isn't well lit, I just run at the track instead.

As for weekends, I run at rail corridor since I can start at 6pm or even earlier in the morning.
in my mind no need to consider "go liquid first" since I have this issue when i was at my peak physical conditions and best digestive capability during my teenage ages to army days.
Pretty clear, only liquids for me, maybe can try gels.

But I am open-minded to try if i don't feel the discomfort.

i believe you can gobble the bananas before the runs, which i used to see my schoolmates do before football games, Nationals and X-country runs. Monkey see monkey do, only to suffer and subsequently feel jelly seeing cos the direct benefit appears pretty obvious, which i have little to no chance to experience.
I ran my 26km with an empty stomach initially, but I took 1 gel 11km in, hydrated 5 sips of water 3x during the run. Still considered underfuelled and underhydrated. Will be increasing my gel + water intake, I might try one slice of bread to see how it goes before the next long run lol
 

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Those who live in the east, do you still go out to work out despite the haze?
 

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Yeah rail corridor.

I have no issues running numerous laps on track. Just thought of running in the shade, so green corridor is a better option.

Sure, but I usually come home 7pm from work, excluding fridays which is 6.30pm. Since I come home late and rail corridor isn't well lit, I just run at the track instead.

As for weekends, I run at rail corridor since I can start at 6pm or even earlier in the morning.

I ran my 26km with an empty stomach initially, but I took 1 gel 11km in, hydrated 5 sips of water 3x during the run. Still considered underfuelled and underhydrated. Will be increasing my gel + water intake, I might try one slice of bread to see how it goes before the next long run lol
Sometimes if early morning rains, I will run rail corridor in the evening but from spooner road. Now got road diversion though so will just u turn at the diversion and run up and down haha
 

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Those who live in the east, do you still go out to work out despite the haze?

Was cycling on Sat and Sun and it was all over the place depending on which direction the plume was. For eg, smelled heavy smell on Pasir Ris industrial drive 1 (near to Downtown East) but after cycling for a bit more it was gone.
 

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I ran my 26km with an empty stomach initially, but I took 1 gel 11km in, hydrated 5 sips of water 3x during the run. Still considered underfuelled and underhydrated. Will be increasing my gel + water intake, I might try one slice of bread to see how it goes before the next long run lol




Can watch this vid from Holly Archer for some info and new nuance on fuelling. But of coz she is an elite and she has trained to handle that rate and our amateur needs are different. But still, useful to know in case you or someone needs this specifically for their long duration race........


For me, i guess still no reason for me to fuel similarly as i dont race such long distances nor the workouts.
For me and my kid it's just a way to prevent bonking....as my kid has indeed bonked a couple of times, once serious enough that he had to sit by the roadside to rest as he said "not feeling well" while i cycled to the coffeeshop to get sugary drinks. There is a small chance that we could get into an accident coz of this, all the way from just a small crash coz ownself fall down due to incoordination or not noticing bumps, all the way to falling down right in front of a vehicle however rare that might be.



The crossover point from using predominantly glycogen to fat stores with intakes of 60, 90 and 120g/h.
She felt the best with 120g/h. She is ex decathelete, present (EU, national) elite grade runner and Hyroxer, iirc 32 min 10k and first FM last year 2:39.


Quote :
At 120g per hour, I experienced:
✔ Lower perceived effort (RPE)
✔ Better perceived energy levels
✔ Improved fluid retention
✔ Less body mass loss
✔ A delayed shift toward fat oxidation

This matters because carbohydrate produces more energy per litre of oxygen than fat, making it the more efficient fuel at marathon pace. When fuelling at 60g per hour, I lost 1.4kg of body mass, likely mostly fluid, and showed an earlier shift toward fat use, meaning less efficient energy production for the same effort. This is why fuelling shouldn’t be guesswork.

ps. Some might note that is for Holly, an elite fast athelete. The researchers noted that it's the same or even more important that average athletes fuel the same, coz they are out there on the course for even longer, so delaying that carb -> fax oxidation switch point till a latter stage is even more advantageous.
 
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in my mind no need to consider "go liquid first" since I have this issue when i was at my peak physical conditions and best digestive capability during my teenage ages to army days.
Pretty clear, only liquids for me, maybe can try gels.

But I am open-minded to try if i don't feel the discomfort.

i believe you can gobble the bananas before the runs, which i used to see my schoolmates do before football games, Nationals and X-country runs. Monkey see monkey do, only to suffer and subsequently feel jelly seeing cos the direct benefit appears pretty obvious, which i have little to no chance to experience.

Yes.......even for weekday dinners, i could be having a "late" dinner at 7pm with my usual cai png or chicken rice (add rice ie 1.5 bowls of rice on workout day, my usual chicken rice store does not charge me for this even), and by 8.30pm i could have started with LT2 or VO2max session or something progressive and not feel anything. Can't stretch the workout to 9.30-10pm coz by then would finish too late and end up even 1am also cant sleep. lol (has happened before)

Bananas are for morning before going out on weekends and also for bringing out.

The only instances whereby i felt "something" is if i gey kiang go drink 1 cup of whey protein within 1hr before the workout, which of coz i have stopped doing....that one very likely will interfere with the session. Anyway no reason to drink whey also prior, was just i gey kiang anyhow do.
 

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Oh no wonder could maintain 50kmh on WCH (latest ones 52.x i think) low 6:00 mins TT with the last vid i posted.
Is national rider.
Another one is Mt Faber KOM, i believe fastest is 2:57 or something, is sub-3. That's frigging fast. :oops:


That means in running speak, he probably can run 16:xx 5k easily, and PB in 15:xx, quite possible. Young guns.
That also is to say, i should stop aiming to reach his speeds and WCH TTs as it's not gonna happen even if i dedicate 24/7 with training + full recovery regimen. :unsure: 🤣 🤣

Cant find a previous short, original he could overlay the speed/power stats, but now needs to be more manual, someone flagged him on strava i think. Not sure how it works. But these shd be legit figures even tho a bit manual.

He is on an aluminum bike with rim brakes i think, not sure about rims. Nothing special stuff.

So, i think i shall stop thinking about upgrading the bike / buying new bike and stuff.
Sounds a bit "loser" / cliche, but it's probably the hard truth.


 
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Yeah rail corridor.

I have no issues running numerous laps on track. Just thought of running in the shade, so green corridor is a better option.

Sure, but I usually come home 7pm from work, excluding fridays which is 6.30pm. Since I come home late and rail corridor isn't well lit, I just run at the track instead.

As for weekends, I run at rail corridor since I can start at 6pm or even earlier in the morning.

I ran my 26km with an empty stomach initially, but I took 1 gel 11km in, hydrated 5 sips of water 3x during the run. Still considered underfuelled and underhydrated. Will be increasing my gel + water intake, I might try one slice of bread to see how it goes before the next long run lol
i get creeped out afew times when i run alone at rail corridor after 7pm.
i would get goosebumps for no good reason so i stopped running there after :ROFLMAO:
now i just whack my long runs at Jurong Lake Garden instead lol
 

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Seeing multiple people wearing masks to run/jog brings back memories from the COVID period.
 
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