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Also @ Hauts de France indoor world tour, chio bu Jessica Hull! :love: :love:
edit - ps, she is super super nice in reality off the track also.

She nearly broke the WR for 2000m, 5:26. (actually she is the WR holder at 5:19)

Heh....if we extrapolate upwards a bit to 2.4 distance, that is like 6:30 min

Need to click to 48:00 mark, basket as usual, WA disable vid.

 

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talking about training load, i think it is not a good performance indicator for me, i can suddenly increase my load, but I dont feel really fatigued. At least for cycling, for running , I go try to see if can suddenly increase load.

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It's possible to increase the load suddenly and don't feel fatigued but maintaining the high load consistently is a different story altogether.

Training load sometimes doesn't tell the full picture especially if you do short distance explosive workouts, you don't generate much load but the fatigue is still high because of the exertion.
Even if no GI issues, going out after 9.30pm sure affect sleep to a certain degree. Personally i no issue even if i return at 11-12mn and then sleep at 1am if it's a long but easy ride.
But any workouts unless if you can get out to do at 8 = good luck sleeping.

It's the adrenaline. Coz there were times in which i raced with boy boys on fixies or PMDs or heck even PMAs (some can go nearly 40kmh one, met before at BEG lol), couldnt sleep, even though length is only 1.5km BEG, then cross MB bridge and after that is GBTB, not say race lah......but "pacing". 🤣
If the goal is to sleep at 11+, then ideally one should finish workouts by 9.30pm, and go take a shower. If 12+, then can afford to do later.

Workouts = strengthening/simple plyometrics. Anything more than that, will be harder to sleep.
all the best! Sounds tough but very doable for u! Hope the injuries are behind u
18/55 should be doable, if I take annual leaves during the peak period. Will take annual leaves for the 80+k weeks on the midweek long run. I have a lot of leaves to use, so can slowly use them for the training block (once a week is sufficient).

18/70 on the other hand, is a different story. I willn't be trying that unless I can get WFH option which my current job doesn't have.
didn't know indoor and outdoor different WR
outdoor usually faster since run on 400m track instead of indoor 200m track. She could possibly break the outdoor WR with her indoor times
 

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Wow.......great weather. Was 23.7 deg C just now at 6+ (22+ deg at midnight to 3am :oops: ), think at my additional elevation it might be 22.7-23.0 deg C.


3 x strides. 3x sprints, 10 mins zone 2 and then 18 mins threshold....no dripping sweat down arms or body at all, just normal perspiration on the skin. :love:

This kind of weather, dont want to get out to do sessions also difficult. 🤣
Hope later late afternoon also got extended + widespread rain, for tomorrow's fun weekend.
Really cooling weather this morning. Just back from a 25k+ run with pace. whole body still dripping wet thou :ROFLMAO:
 

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It's possible to increase the load suddenly and don't feel fatigued but maintaining the high load consistently is a different story altogether.

Training load sometimes doesn't tell the full picture especially if you do short distance explosive workouts, you don't generate much load but the fatigue is still high because of the exertion.

If the goal is to sleep at 11+, then ideally one should finish workouts by 9.30pm, and go take a shower. If 12+, then can afford to do later.

Workouts = strengthening/simple plyometrics. Anything more than that, will be harder to sleep.

18/55 should be doable, if I take annual leaves during the peak period. Will take annual leaves for the 80+k weeks on the midweek long run. I have a lot of leaves to use, so can slowly use them for the training block (once a week is sufficient).

18/70 on the other hand, is a different story. I willn't be trying that unless I can get WFH option which my current job doesn't have.

outdoor usually faster since run on 400m track instead of indoor 200m track. She could possibly break the outdoor WR with her indoor times
talking about training load, i think it is not a good performance indicator for me, i can suddenly increase my load, but I dont feel really fatigued. At least for cycling, for running , I go try to see if can suddenly increase load.

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Sorry, i just use AI (again ) 🤣

But generally, cycling is based more towards muscular damage if you overdo it.....not dissimilar to weight/calisthenic/gym workouts.
I'd guess less chance for injury too, but really overdo it in certain extreme ways like over mashing a climb at low cadence, repeatedly, can overstress tendons/ligaments and joints. Recent past 2 months ago, i nearly seriously injured my right arm wrist tendon coz i geh kiang go do one arm deadhang and even 3 fingers one arm deadhang and pushed the limits (i only train normal deadhangs).
Muscles ok, bones ok, wah lan the tendon really feel it, just 1 session, acute liao. For the next 3-4 weeks i got pain and needed to stop my deadhang training, could only continue with pull ups.

That time in 2023 esp, i ran like 70-80km/week range coz i was training for AHM 2023 10k. (I only started cycling from Sep 2023). Totally shagged already, i still remembe reach office open milo tinand Nescafe Gold to do ice milo mocah, then sit down and sip the drink, i will stun till 9.30-9.45 am one. And after that like wanna doze off even with the caffeine. Seems from AI, there is also the neurological CNS aspect

But for cycling, like even nowadays, i do 2X that training duration hours and with only 1 short workout (friday, like today) and daily commuting runs, i happy happy no issue one.
edit - actually closer to 3X the duration of training hours, no thanks to the weekends that i do "junk" volume with my kiddo on the road. :unsure: :crazy: But no leh, the level of fatigue lagi less than when i was pure running.

I and my kid have risen sometimes really early for cycling, as early as 4+ AM during sch hols. What i / we found is that any time earlier than 5.45am, sure shag one, more coz of lack of sleep than anything (can sleep before 9.30pm also, got limit as to how early). My kid wakes up 6.20am weekdays, so > 30 mins earlier than usual he will feel it.



So, i think if i were to go do FM training and > 120km run training,......不如一枪打死我算了吧。

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No, increasing the training load drastically in cycling generally does not cause the same level of total body fatigue as running, primarily because cycling is a low-impact, concentric-focused activity. Running involves higher eccentric load (muscle stretching) and repetitive impact, which causes greater, longer-lasting damage and neurological fatigue
 
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WINGS Cross Country Championships 2026 - Women Open and Women Master (Winners & Finishers)​


edit - wah tribal triathlon fitluey also got go hoot the Open cat, finishing just after Goh Shing Ling. 18:42 and 19:10 respectively.

Considering Bedok reservoir surface, not bad leh..... not sure about their ages but dont seem to be over 50.

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Siao liao lah, i can tell you going to become a FMer soon than we think. 🤣
errr... just taking advantage of the cooling weather. I am ok with FM distance just don't like the crowds. maybe me anti-social :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
did today's run in a adios 9 and without any water stops. original plan was just to do a tempo 10k.
can feel the calves got a good workout today.
 

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errr... just taking advantage of the cooling weather. I am ok with FM distance just don't like the crowds. maybe me anti-social :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
did today's run in a adios 9 and without any water stops. original plan was just to do a tempo 10k.
can feel the calves got a good workout today.

No worries, i know the feeling, me neither. Dont like socialising, and also wasting $$$ on unnecessary social food/beverages.

For cycling is lagi anti-social coz this is like 10X 20X more social sport than running. I'm like the only long ranger BBFA at Maxwell / Amoy (bo bian i gotta go these cycling hotspots coz i live that area so LLST) and then somemore gotta pass by Tg pagar rd past Maap Lab and Rapha clubhouse, and also another smaller hotspot (Great Nanyang Heritage Coffee along Craig rd which i gotta take coz i need to get to Yan Kit Rd).

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Aziz Shavershian, known as "Zyzz," died on August 5, 2011, at age 22 from a sudden heart attack while vacationing in Thailand
. An autopsy revealed the cause was a previously undiagnosed congenital heart defect combined with cardiomegaly (an enlarged heart). He had shown minor symptoms like high blood pressure prior.
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  • Location: He passed away in a sauna in Pattaya, Thailand.
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2:02 for 800 is 2:33 pace, btw. It's very fast. Those right at the front like doing 1:53 or 1:54




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Aziz Shavershian, known as "Zyzz," died on August 5, 2011, at age 22 from a sudden heart attack while vacationing in Thailand
. An autopsy revealed the cause was a previously undiagnosed congenital heart defect combined with cardiomegaly (an enlarged heart). He had shown minor symptoms like high blood pressure prior.
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  • Cause of Death: Sudden cardiac arrest caused by an underlying congenital heart defect (specifically, a heart condition).
  • Location: He passed away in a sauna in Pattaya, Thailand.
  • Background: He had a family history of heart problems.
    Wikipedia
Note: While many online rumors speculated on other factors, the official autopsy cited a pre-existing condition
.

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Congenital is nothing lifestyle can help one. No way can diet your way or exercise your way out of it.
Born with it. What can be helped is early detection and possible correction thru surgery. Check with @DigDub .
 

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Has anyone experienced runner's toe? Will the position of the nail return to its normal state?

It is unsettling to observe that the swelling in my "runner's toe" has diminished, and now it seems as though the nail may detach.
 

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Training load impact is cumulative. Especially for seasoned athletes, one or two high training load won't kill you if followed by deloading. Remember that Runtojapan guy who did 200km a day? or something like that. Training load definitely too high even for a Keyan athlete. Because he is a very seasoned runner, the resilience is there to tahan for a long time. But in the end he did break down, coz he had minimal deloading and recovery. but he bounce back was equally impressive, and owing to his resilience as a season athlete.
 
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Has anyone experienced runner's toe? Will the position of the nail return to its normal state?

It is unsettling to observe that the swelling in my "runner's toe" has diminished, and now it seems as though the nail may detach.
A chronic problem for me. Every year the right big toe will blacken and lose the nail. Used to it liao, coz doesn't really affect my running.
Advice, let the nail to drop off naturally. It will grow back.
 

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Has anyone experienced runner's toe? Will the position of the nail return to its normal state?

It is unsettling to observe that the swelling in my "runner's toe" has diminished, and now it seems as though the nail may detach.
Many times before. Try not to wear over tight shoes and avoid the shoe giving you the problem.

For me after a few months, the blackened nail will become normal again.

Sometimes the nail will drop off and also take a few months to grow back slowly to normal.
 

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A chronic problem for me. Every year the right big toe will blacken and lose the nail. Used to it liao, coz doesn't really affect my running.
Advice, let the nail to drop off naturally. It will grow back.

Thanks for the heads-up. I’m tempted to try removing the entire nail since it’s becoming loose—I’ve just been trimming it to prevent it from ripping off accidentally.

I suspect this might become chronic for me too, as I’m now noticing the same darkening symptom starting on my other toe.
 
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