Lasik eye Surgery

[turnbackclock]

what about this intralasik leh... is it the same as lasik? some clinic have

 

[Unaware]

Just curious, why most of you guys suggest private clinic leh? Also, anybody knows anything about the Lasik Surgery Clinic? If i go private probably will do with them...

 

[kampong boi]

priiiiiivate.....



same price, so depends. if you wanna dive/ do combat sports, do the more painful epilasik. else, lasik gives fast recovery

I do diving and physical sports like football, but I did the normal lasik, last time don't have epilasik, so imo normal lasik also can.

Just curious, why most of you guys suggest private clinic leh? Also, anybody knows anything about the Lasik Surgery Clinic? If i go private probably will do with them...

To me the deciding factor between private and government is the cost, anything else private is better, be it waiting time to service to experience. This is similar to mothers-to-be, if they can afford, they would go for private hospitals where the gyne is more experienced to prevent any complications etc.

The gov hospitals usually give the young/junior doctors a chance to do the work at a lower rate compared to a senior doc, but waiting time is longer. As much as I want to give the young ones a chance to get some experience, I also want to make sure my eyes get the best treatment where possible.

Those things like plucking of wisdom tooth or what can just leave to the junior doc, big ones that involves the organs or bones better play safe, otherwise don't do it and wait till you save a little more.

my 2 cents

 

[Poryongming]

anyone tried Ortho-K before? My friend suggested that i consider this rather than lasik since there is no physical alteration required. To me this method doesnt seem to be well received in our local community.

Ortho K involves wearing a hard contact lens in the eye while asleep. The power comes back after 1 or 2 days if you stop wearing the lens to sleep. Many/most eye doctors recommend not to sleep with contact lens in the eye as there is a higher risk of eye infections...

See this answer in Quora: What is your experience with Overnight Vision Correction (Orthokeratology)? - Quora

 

[JASPER1234]

Do Shinagawa perform pre evaluation during their public talk?

 

[trax06]

Do Shinagawa perform pre evaluation during their public talk?

No need for their public talk go straight to the evaluation.

 

[JASPER1234]

No need for their public talk go straight to the evaluation.

Thks for the advice. Had went to their talk on Friday and booked for the evaluation next week

 

[feist_]

I do diving and physical sports like football, but I did the normal lasik, last time don't have epilasik, so imo normal lasik also can.

hmm.. would that be abit like saying last time no keyhole surgery, so today, cutting the big hole also can which is of course okay: the wound will definitely heal, and normal lasik also can. many of my friends did it.

but for me, the thing about normal lasik is that the cut on the cornea heals, but there is a line (like the perforated paper on the parking coupon), and trauma to the eye can dislodge it. the effect of this is apparently some blurriness, and you just need to go back to the clinic to reposition it.

Conversely, for epilasik, there is no such flap to be displaced when something hits your eye, so any resulting damage shld be the same as what is done to an unlasiked eye.

That said, I also haven't heard of anyone needing to reposition their flap after getting hit, so this could just be me trying to cover all my bases when i did the epi option. Also, given that your eye sits on a bed of cushioning fluid in its hard, protective socket, the chance of your eye getting hit in a damaging manner during sports is really quite unlikely, so for some, this may not justify the longer epilasi downtime.

i suppose the final decision depends on how you calculate future risks (i picked epilasik after my doctor friend opted for it and my consulting doctor said it was actually safer, and said the clinic recommends lasik first simply because of the easier experience for customers). anw the price is about the same. lasik more ex process, epilasik cheaper, but got more eyedrops.

Just curious, why most of you guys suggest private clinic leh? Also, anybody knows anything about the Lasik Surgery Clinic? If i go private probably will do with them...

my colleague did it. normal lasik 2 years ago, no issues to date. very fast recovery. and you shld find a referral for more discount..

 

[turnbackclock]

my only concern is that my job requires me to use computer most of the time, will this cause myopia after lasik to come back(regression)?
and what is sny other thing that you can't do after lasik? or what might cause myopia to come back?

 

[batdow]

my only concern is that my job requires me to use computer most of the time, will this cause myopia after lasik to come back(regression)?
and what is sny other thing that you can't do after lasik? or what might cause myopia to come back?

ya.. i am feeling it... eyesight not as bad due to too much computer work... can lasik again?

 

[purpleyun]

Hihi, I just went to shinagawa and has exactly the same issue as u, astigmatism in the lens. However, Dr see allows me to do Lasik... Just wondering, have u found any other clinic who can operate on u? TIA

hey guys any one of you have this issue whereby your cornea asgti and your lenticular asgti is degree is too far apart?
For eg my asgti is 425, cornea is asgti is 275 lenticular asgti is 150.

I was rejected by shinagawa citing reason by the doctor that lasik only fix the cornea asgti, after which i would have lenticular asgti of 150 which would essentially means i would be have 150 degree asgti after surgery. Which of course that defeats the purpose of doing lasik.

However, when i went to LSC for 2nd opinion, i was told that i was given the green light.

I'm very puzzled here. Does that means that the machine in LSC is able to fix lenticular asgti?

Someone with the knowledge kindly advise please? Your input would be much appreciated. Thanks in advance

 

[gabong]

hmm.. would that be abit like saying last time no keyhole surgery, so today, cutting the big hole also can which is of course okay: the wound will definitely heal, and normal lasik also can. many of my friends did it.

but for me, the thing about normal lasik is that the cut on the cornea heals, but there is a line (like the perforated paper on the parking coupon), and trauma to the eye can dislodge it. the effect of this is apparently some blurriness, and you just need to go back to the clinic to reposition it.

Conversely, for epilasik, there is no such flap to be displaced when something hits your eye, so any resulting damage shld be the same as what is done to an unlasiked eye.

That said, I also haven't heard of anyone needing to reposition their flap after getting hit, so this could just be me trying to cover all my bases when i did the epi option. Also, given that your eye sits on a bed of cushioning fluid in its hard, protective socket, the chance of your eye getting hit in a damaging manner during sports is really quite unlikely, so for some, this may not justify the longer epilasi downtime.

i suppose the final decision depends on how you calculate future risks (i picked epilasik after my doctor friend opted for it and my consulting doctor said it was actually safer, and said the clinic recommends lasik first simply because of the easier experience for customers). anw the price is about the same. lasik more ex process, epilasik cheaper, but got more eyedrops.

I think the flap will not be able to come "loose" after 30 days or so, as it will heal back to normal like if you cut you skin, it will heal back as well.

But in the first week, the flap is definitely not healed so avoid all contact with it.

I've done lasik over 10 years ago, and once I had a basketball hit me in the face and my eyes are still ok.

 

[gabong]

that's kinda scary.. i shall be healthier from now on..

go ahead!! haha i did epilasik about 9 months ago at eagle eye. before that i thought about it for a year.. best decision ever.. and i'm the sort who has had nightmares even years after watching that scene in alias where the torture method involved pointing needles at the persons eye :<

i finally went ahead because i calculated - from now till i turn 40, the cost of lasik should be about the same or abit less than the cost of contact lens and glasses. but now that it's done, it is really worth it. i can make spontaneous decisions to stay over at people's houses, my carry-on luggage when i travel is no longer filled with crazily taped contact lens cases, i can party all night without sneaking away to the toilet to pop my lens out for a breather (very sick.. but ya those days are over).

here's my experience, i hope it helps you!:

like donald83, they put eye drops in my eye, numbed it, did all the checks. V impt to be very clear about what you're saying here, since it's more permanent than making specs.

for the op, they will robe you in a surgical gown and paint you with a brown thing (not sure what it is). then you will sit on a tiny throne (okay..chair) while you wait for the person before you to finish.

when the doctor was ready, i entered the OR and climbed onto what looked like a dentist chair. i was very creeped out by this time, because.. well it is lasers and knives. but dr theng was pretty good and efficient. he slapped what felt like a sanitary pad over my eye, then peeled it off so when I opened by eyes, i was looking into a bright light.

then he dropped numbing eyedrops, put in the clamps (to hold the eye open?) and then told me he was going to begin. he began testing gently if my eyeballs were numb. this should be scary..because what if your eyeballs aren't numb, right? but don't worry, because the drugs actually work.. very well. so well, i began giggling, and he told me to keep still. soon, he began scraping away the top layer. when this was done, i looked up at the light, which began moving and making sounds. during this entire time, the doctor should just be updating you on what's going on (like "30 seconds more..10 seconds more..") etc.

some say the op lasts 15 minutes, but it was really painless and fast on my end. when they shift the machine away, you will see a clear "eagle eye" painted on the ceiling.. not bad for marketing right?

then after that you'll go home. totally painless i didn't eat the painkillers they gave, despite my low tolerance for pain. (for reference, for simple wisdom tooth extraction, i requested 3 jabs of anaesthesia instead of 1)
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perhaps what you should be fearful of, and will have little or no control over..is the morning after.

i awoke at 6am to the awful sounds of my neighbours gate crashing for a wedding... only i couldn't open my eyes. they were consumed by such a blinding itch, that i just couldn't open them. after scrabbling around in the dark for the eyedrops, and forcibly opening my eyes to drop the eyedrops, i went back to sleep. after the sun rose, i woke as well, and the AWFUL itch returned. just my luck, the light was just too bright for me to do anything, and i ended up crawling into the darkest corner of my room to seek out the tiny emergency phone number of the clinic.. and wail into the phone to complain that i couldn't open my eyes. the calm receptionist then told me that it was normal, and advised me to just put the eyedrops as scheduled.

when i was not at the clinic getting my eyes checked, i was at home wearing sunglasses in my dark bedroom, where i thankfully had blackout curtains. I only ventured out only after the sun set. At lunch, i wore a sun hat, sunglasses, and ate lunch in the shady dining room, where my family members laughed and took photos of me.... this awful experience (extreme light sensitivity, itching) continued for about a week(!!!!!), but i was very careful to follow the procedure.

at the 1 week mark, they removed the contact lens bandage, and a few days later, i was ready to return to work, where there was another issue - my eyes hadn't regained perfect vision yet. i had to beg my colleagues to install a second monitor, where i replied emails at 140% zoom for the next month.

at 1.5 months, i was still on eye drops.. and my eye pressure had begun to increase. lesson to be learnt: do NOT treat the dosage lightly. don't put more or less. If you are the kind of person who cooks by tossing "a handful of salt" into the meat, or using "a pinch of pepper". do NOT apply this theory to applying your lasik eyedrops. The bottle for the eyedrops comes with a dropper, and the size of the dosage really depends on how hard you squeeze. concerned that my squeeze was too light, i actually squeezed harder, and that (i feel) may have contributed to the high eye pressure problem. continued high eye pressure is otherwise known as glaucoma, which can cause blindness. for eyedrop-induced glaucoma, this just means your vision doesn't improve as quickly. Dr. Theng weaned me off the eyedrops though, and the issue has since (touch wood) been resolved.

9 months on, my left eye is perfect, and right eye is like..50 degrees off maybe? there really is not much of an effect. i can drive fine, and can see most things clearly with both eyes. the only problem is.. if you rub the eye a certain way, it can hurt (just like how if you rub your eyes with contacts).

also, there is very slight light sensitivity. like i can tell if it is a gloomy day out, but i still find that i am more comfortable with shades on.

thinking of doing a corrective surgery since it is complimentary.

hope this helps!

i think for normal lasik, the recovery is less painful, but i was abit concerned about the "flap". like.. there's a scar..... when i asked the clinic what would happen if the "flap" dislodged.. they said,.. just come back and we will reposition it

Great review!

I did normal lasik over 10 years ago.
Today my left eye is perfect, my right eye has like 50-75 degrees.
It's a bit annoying when using the computer, but outdoors it's just fine.

Epi-lasik cuts a very thin flap on top of the eye (the epithelium layer), that layer has a longer recovery for some, compared with lasik that just cut right through. That's why lasik is not available for those with thin cornea.

 

[trax06]

I think I find is scarier that not many of you mention concerning price. Lol

My sister had thin cornea and had to the interlase process at shinagawa total 5k felt abit of regret bcos she had no issues with contact lense.

 

[kampong boi]

I think I find is scarier that not many of you mention concerning price. Lol

My sister had thin cornea and had to the interlase process at shinagawa total 5k felt abit of regret bcos she had no issues with contact lense.

lasik is an aesthetic job, if price is a concern can always do at government hospital. If the price is still too steep then stick with glasses or contacts, many people still wear them for sports or in their daily lives.

Thin cornea is quite complicated and if I am only offered the more expensive procedure of 5k I will consider continue wearing contacts or glasses, or at least until I have the means to do the procedure.

 

[feist_]

I think I find is scarier that not many of you mention concerning price. Lol

My sister had thin cornea and had to the interlase process at shinagawa total 5k felt abit of regret bcos she had no issues with contact lense.

price all the same ma..
i suppose lasik is attractive cos you don't need to deal with the discomfort of lenses anymore.

 

[feist_]

Eagle Eye Clinic

I just completed by 6months post op review, and my vision is overcorrected by 75deg, with 100deg astig in my right eye. sounds awful, but it's not so bad. my other eye can help: left eye is at 25 degrees, with about 50 deg astig.

all in all, not too bad, but not perfect. but of course, after spending $3500+, i wanted perfect vision.

this time, the doctor didn't recommend corrective epilasik surgery because of the painful healing process. Chances of better vision was 90%. Or put a different way, chances of WORSE vision was 10%. he had more confidence if i did the normal lasik - but i would have to pay $400 more for the procedure. Kindly note that while enhancement surgery may be covered, follow up checkup and eyedrops may not be covered.

thus my choices are:
enhancement epilasik: $500 (for 5 checkups)
enhancement bladeless normal lasik: $700 ($400 top up + 3 check ups)

I've decided to sit on it (since I technically have 2.5 more years to decide). there's really a lack of this info online! i wonder why not more people discuss it. maybe i am part of the 0.XXX% who experienced it? Anyway, if you're deciding, do read all literature carefully. Here are the FAQs from Eagle Eye Lasik, and the stuff that isn't really said. As a part-time copywriter, i can totally imagine myself framing this information for work....

Disclaimer: I'm not upset, don't get me wrong. I love going around without glasses, and that my operation technically went okay - no infections, etc. I'm just not impressed by how clinics tend to oversell the service, and understate the possible side effects. Lasik (like IPL) won't remove all your imperfections completely.

4. What are the side effects? Will I go blind if it goes wrong?
• Common side effects are dry eyes, light sensitivity, glare and halos during the first few weeks, but most of these side effects will subside over time.
• Blindness could occur only if a serious complication such as infection or scarring occurs. But this is very rare as antibiotic eye drops are prescribed as a routine to prevent such infections or scarring from occurring.
• EEC's staff and doctors are highly trained and experienced in LASIK surgery, therefore you will be in very safe hands and even if the worst case of infection occurs, EEC is backed with one of the most experienced cornea surgeon who can treat the patient "Free" to regain eyesight.
- This answer shows that sometimes the side effects won't subside. Please be prepared. My colleague did his, and even 1 year after surgery, he was dripping eyedrops into his eyes like an addict.
-"Free" is not defined.

12. Will my eyes be permanently weakened after the procedure?
• No, LASIK does not weaken your eyes significantly.
• A flap will be present after LASIK is done. But in both LASIK and EpiLASIK, the cornea is thinned down to a safe limit such that long term risks are almost impossible.
"Significantly" - please be aware that your eyes will probably be weakened a little. To date, I need to be careful when opening my eyes in the morning. Not a big thing, but it is still irritating.
"Almost Impossible" - but still possible.

15. How long will the correction last?
• Laser vision correction is permanent. There might be fluctuations in vision in the first 3 to 6 months while the eye is healing but thereafter, the result will be permanent.

don't forget your "老花眼" - an older colleague of mine did it. and got lao hua yan shortly after.
also, my friend did her 10months ago, and this year, she realized that her vision had become blurry.....

. just my two cents.

 

[turnbackclock]

does that mean you have to go thru the recovery period again?
anyway goodluck!

 

[yh_lee]

Better becareful.. My friend went and told me he can see "extra" things.. Thing of the "3rd" kind.

 

[kampong boi]

Better becareful.. My friend went and told me he can see "extra" things.. Thing of the "3rd" kind.

lol biggest joke so far, your friend do bad/wrong things is it?