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Hi,
If I want to learn basic vocabulary for japanese should I just go and memorize the vocabulary segment in minna no nihongo? Cause now I had finished Elementary 1 for Bunka then I wanted to expand on my vocab as my class did not focus much on vocab other than verbs, so I wanted to strengten on my weak point before continuing on...If possible can guide me on other ways to study on vocab if my method is not good? Books recommendation are also ok...
If you are planning on taking JLPT you should improve your vocab since JLPT is quite biased towards that. Since everyone's learning method is different I don't think i can really recommend you any specific way to study vocab. But as with every language the best way to learn is to immerse yourself in things that interest you. Like try reading a manga (JP version of course) or go watch a JP dorama or anime. You will absorb more easier that way than to memorise from any vocab list or textbook.
 

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今日はちょっと面白いことを見ました。
紀伊国屋で買っている最中に、ある母と息子さんは電子辞書のコーナーにいた。セイコの電子辞書を買いたいそうです。。
その相変わらす売っている者は一生懸命説明します。。。
結局、その息子は買うかどうか、わからないけど。。。
もし買うなら、値段は高すぎると思います。。。799ドルだよ。それに、手書きできません。。。
残念なあ。。もし買うなら。。。

でも、この動作から、息子にお母さんの愛は急に偉いと思っていました。。。こんな高い物は買うなんて。。。

その息子さんは辞書を買わないのを望んでいます。

では、面白いことは何ですか。=p

seiko good? but a bit expensive leh $799....

interesting sia... but if i got $ I will buy... :D
 

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Hi,
If I want to learn basic vocabulary for japanese should I just go and memorize the vocabulary segment in minna no nihongo? Cause now I had finished Elementary 1 for Bunka then I wanted to expand on my vocab as my class did not focus much on vocab other than verbs, so I wanted to strengten on my weak point before continuing on...If possible can guide me on other ways to study on vocab if my method is not good? Books recommendation are also ok...

well, go slowly on vocabs... there are tons of them man...
i usually advise ppl to go fiercely on grammer which is my approach...

well, if u are still keen on vocabs, more books may help widen ur horizon...
Adding on kitsura, JLPT books is also good if u plans to challenge JLPT.... :D
 

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is jlpt still taking
i want decide to join jap class after my o level result?
which is better jplt or bunkalang
 

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hm....i'm still aiming to start Japanese classes at Bunka, but new classes starts like end of Jan or Feb. I find textbooks quite boring and often , no motivation to flip the books. Learning the language through anime is much more fun. But still I want to take JLPT.

I'm thinking of taking elementary 1 but I've seen the assessment of my friend's. It's kinda easy to me, as I've been doing SLOW self-study for like more than 4 years. So I'm a bit unwilling to take elementary 1. Should I go on with E1 or mug to jump grade (providied I pass the evaluation test)?

Can someone give me some advice over here?
 

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hm....i'm still aiming to start Japanese classes at Bunka, but new classes starts like end of Jan or Feb. I find textbooks quite boring and often , no motivation to flip the books. Learning the language through anime is much more fun. But still I want to take JLPT.

I'm thinking of taking elementary 1 but I've seen the assessment of my friend's. It's kinda easy to me, as I've been doing SLOW self-study for like more than 4 years. So I'm a bit unwilling to take elementary 1. Should I go on with E1 or mug to jump grade (providied I pass the evaluation test)?

Can someone give me some advice over here?
Hmm.. Not a good idea to skip.

Casual Japanese learned in comics, may be similar to polite japanese taught in books. What you have self-studied may not be correct.

You can try my evaluation like what Adventia did. Now he's in pre-advanced class in Ikoma. =)

Will pm u my MSN.
 

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hm....i'm still aiming to start Japanese classes at Bunka, but new classes starts like end of Jan or Feb. I find textbooks quite boring and often , no motivation to flip the books. Learning the language through anime is much more fun. But still I want to take JLPT.

I'm thinking of taking elementary 1 but I've seen the assessment of my friend's. It's kinda easy to me, as I've been doing SLOW self-study for like more than 4 years. So I'm a bit unwilling to take elementary 1. Should I go on with E1 or mug to jump grade (providied I pass the evaluation test)?

Can someone give me some advice over here?

No harm doing a level check with Dimitri i would say...he is experienced after all.
Its better to know where you are standing before moving on...
A rickety foundation will only creates a building that falls easily.

I am studying at Ikoma,i wouldnt want to rely on the evaluation tests by the teachers at the schools alone.Not that they arent good, its just that i dont feel it is 100% accurate...No offense to ikoma...>.<.
 

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Hi ^^ I think it's my first time posting in here. I was reading one of the chat logs from 170+... Is Ikoma's Sunday 1.30 class or 4.45pm class JLPT 2 Prep classes full? Or are they both almost full? I was thinking about registering this coming week but looks like I have to find another day. >_<
 

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No harm doing a level check with Dimitri i would say...he is experienced after all.
Its better to know where you are standing before moving on...
A rickety foundation will only creates a building that falls easily.

I am studying at Ikoma,i wouldnt want to rely on the evaluation tests by the teachers at the schools alone.Not that they arent good, its just that i dont feel it is 100% accurate...No offense to ikoma...>.<.

Thanks for recommending me. =p

Adventia, maybe u can write more about how my evaluation is conducted. =p
 

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Hi,
I apologize on kitsura's behalf if you feel he's mocking at you...and also for my LOL..
Knowing kitsura personally, he's not a person that really meant what he said. He's a person that is willing to share materials to help others.

it's not called jplt... it's JLPT (Japanese Language Proficiency Test)

You can find out more information about JLPT here.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jlpt

I would advise you start self-studying first for about 1-2 months before enrolling yourself in a school, to ensure you have the determination to start studying Japanese.

You can find more information below.
http://japanese.meetup.com/7/messages/boards/thread/4086543

Once you think you have memorized the Hiragana chart and able to write well, you can look under
http://japanese.meetup.com/7/messages/boards/thread/2955557

on the various schools available in Singapore.

Hope it helps.
 
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First of all, can you name me any reason on why should a person be weak in english shouldnt take up a third language?Is there any link at all and frankly speaking, dont be an asshole and try to act smart by not contributing recommendation and instead mockery.
Just because you are better than me in english doesnt give you any right to mock at me, unless you are trying to conclude that if a person is weak in english will find difficulty in learning third language thus from my point of view, you are giving me a feeling of sarcasm and therefor such senseless and idiotic comment should be refined to yourself.
Lastly, i can conclude that you are no better than a kid in terms of mentality, maybe you do have such illness such as inferiority complex, therefore you simply mock at the slightest mistake make by a average human being such as grammar mistake, and if you are that professional in your english language, may i know why you didnt correct my mistake, unless you are no better than me?

Cool it, why do you assume people are mocking at you? I actually agree with Kitsura - that's good advice I'll give to my best friend. English is an important skill you'll need when you start working in Singapore, and it can make all the difference to your future. I figure you're probably still very young (waiting for 'O' level results) and don't see the importance of English, hence the laziness in checking what you have typed (or just typing in what you assume is shorthand that people can understand), leading to errors that you know you won't make in your English exams.

The reason why nobody has thus far answered your questions is probably because nobody understood them and didn't know how to answer. I'll attempt to answer your questions:
is jlpt still taking
i want decide to join jap class after my o level result?
which is better jplt or bunkalang

JLPT is an exam - the standardized Japanese Language Proficiency Test set by Japan for foreigners. Do you mean to ask if you can still take JLPT or did you mistake JLPT for a japanese language school? Because you asked if JLPT or Bunka is better, and Bunka is a japanese language school.

You can take the JLPT every first Sunday of December. As of now, there are 4 levels of JLPT. This will be restructured into 5 levels soon (maybe 2 years later?), but the idea is the same - it is still THE japanese language test by Japan for foreigners. You can search wikipedia for more details.

Both Bunka and Ikoma are reputed to be good schools, but there are others too, such as Hougang Language School and JCS, which are cheaper. There has been a lot of discussion on each of these schools in this thread, by some learners of japanese who have attended these schools, so their comments are probably more valid than anything I have to say. Which school you choose will depend on your budget, your reason for learning, your self-discipline, your study approach, etc. There are also people who do self-study.

Before posting your next question, you might want to do some internet search on the various japanese language schools, as well as ask yourself why you really want to learn japanese. When you randomly ask questions that show how little background check you have done on the internet, people tend to ignore your questions. If you can't be bothered to find out what is JLPT, why should anyone bother to answer you?
 

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First of all, can you name me any reason on why should a person be weak in english shouldnt take up a third language?Is there any link at all and frankly speaking, dont be an asshole and try to act smart by not contributing recommendation and instead mockery.
Just because you are better than me in english doesnt give you any right to mock at me, unless you are trying to conclude that if a person is weak in english will find difficulty in learning third language thus from my point of view, you are giving me a feeling of sarcasm and therefor such senseless and idiotic comment should be refined to yourself.
Lastly, i can conclude that you are no better than a kid in terms of mentality, maybe you do have such illness such as inferiority complex, therefore you simply mock at the slightest mistake make by a average human being such as grammar mistake, and if you are that professional in your english language, may i know why you didnt correct my mistake, unless you are no better than me?

yo hippo haha... just like my nick.

anyway, get used to it when u come in here. some ppl think they are great and look down on ppl tat just started this language. when you get to know them, u will know some of them may be good but love to show off/act big. seriously speaking, weak in english has nothing to do with learning of third language. Just like those non chinese learning japanese language like kanji, they are not weak in it compare to chinese. Just some mother ****er dont get to know it. in fact, if u really interested in the language, i am sure u will put a lot of your time learning it. all the best in learning jap :D

btw, one of the nice person in here is PingJun.
 
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Hi ^^ I think it's my first time posting in here. I was reading one of the chat logs from 170+... Is Ikoma's Sunday 1.30 class or 4.45pm class JLPT 2 Prep classes full? Or are they both almost full? I was thinking about registering this coming week but looks like I have to find another day. >_<

The last time i called them they told me only night classes are available on sunday.
You may want to call them asap...
Try to go for the weekday classes if you can...their powerhouse sensei is there.
 
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Thanks for recommending me. =p

Adventia, maybe u can write more about how my evaluation is conducted. =p

Well, we went on MSN...he posted a few translation questions for me to do.After which, we decided to chat on phone,he asked me to do a introduction about myself in Japanese(For my level its a must to be able to do that.When i went to Ikoma,we do self-intro every lesson as there were always new students.)
I am sick of self-intro.Really sick.
I was stunned by the self-intro Dimitri gave about himself.Lolz.

He was able to more or less gauge my standards after this.
I did meetup with him for advise on JLPT.It was very useful i would say.
 
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wonder if school test fail... mean cant get cert??

The cert you mentioned is which cert?

If JLPT cert, you can get the cert provided that you have passed JLPT exam.

If you mean school cert, then I am unsure of that.
 
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