LTA, please clarify whether ERP 2.0 OBU power consumption is too high??

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Your assumption is based on internal heat generation



LTA’s video already demonstrated that it is from external heat source ie the radiation from the sun.
which is the same as outdoors lol. In fact outdoors is hotter.
 

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so many negative feedback abt this new erp OBU
No one start to kpkb on the ability of distance based charging yet.

it may up your COL to the sky. All your goods need to be transported.

And is there a need to install them on foreign vehicles?
 

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Your assumption is based on internal heat generation



LTA’s video already demonstrated that it is from external heat source ie the radiation from the sun.

That's YOUR ASSUMPTION.
I'm making a clarification
 

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No one start to kpkb on the ability of distance based charging yet.

it may up your COL to the sky. All your goods need to be transported.

And is there a need to install them on foreign vehicles?
Drive into JB also must pay? Within big car parks like Suntec?
 

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No one start to kpkb on the ability of distance based charging yet.

it may up your COL to the sky. All your goods need to be transported.

And is there a need to install them on foreign vehicles?
COL getting more scary
 

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The heat is on (yeah!)
The heat is on (oh, yeah)
The heat is on (burnin', burnin', burnin')
It's on the street (woo-hoo)
The heat is... on
 

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Your assumption is based on internal heat generation



LTA’s video already demonstrated that it is from external heat source ie the radiation from the sun.
Greenhouse effect in the car can bring the temp to 50c. But 50c is chicken feet to electronics, they run most efficient around 50c. Unless NCS is using decade old 30nm power guzzling processor, generating excess heat. Add both, and kaboom!
 

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4.—(1) No person shall
(a) install an in-vehicle unit in a motor vehicle;
(b) remove an in-vehicle unit which has been installed in a motor vehicle;
(c) replace an in-vehicle unit which has been installed in a motor vehicle with another in-vehicle unit (whether of the same type or of another type);
  1. (d) carry out any maintenance or repair works to, or otherwise tamper with, adjust, alter or modify, an in-vehicle unit which has been installed in a motor vehicle;
  2. (e) manufacture or assemble an in-vehicle unit; or
  3. (f) sell or supply or offer to sell or supply an in-vehicle unit,
unless he is authorised to do so by the Registrar.
(2) Any person who contravenes paragraph (1) shall be guilty of an offence and shall be liable on conviction to a fine not exceeding $2,000 or to imprisonment for a term not exceeding 12 months or to both.
while a snake blatantly stole a LV belt and get 11 days. shameful.
 

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4.—(1) No person shall
(a) install an in-vehicle unit in a motor vehicle;
(b) remove an in-vehicle unit which has been installed in a motor vehicle;
(c) replace an in-vehicle unit which has been installed in a motor vehicle with another in-vehicle unit (whether of the same type or of another type);
  1. (d) carry out any maintenance or repair works to, or otherwise tamper with, adjust, alter or modify, an in-vehicle unit which has been installed in a motor vehicle;
  2. (e) manufacture or assemble an in-vehicle unit; or
  3. (f) sell or supply or offer to sell or supply an in-vehicle unit,
unless he is authorised to do so by the Registrar.
(2) Any person who contravenes paragraph (1) shall be guilty of an offence and shall be liable on conviction to a fine not exceeding $2,000 or to imprisonment for a term not exceeding 12 months or to both.
Go jb, find the mechanics there to dismantle the entire unit.

Come back sg, report stolen, spend $70 to reinstall new one.

Meanwhile, the taken down unit, plug into a power meter and 12v adapter. You can get your answer. After that can dismantle and explore the circuitry. Or send to Russian hackers to find loopholes.
 

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Go jb, find the mechanics there to dismantle the entire unit.

Come back sg, report stolen, spend $70 to reinstall new one.

Meanwhile, the taken down unit, plug into a power meter and 12v adapter. You can get your answer. After that can dismantle and explore the circuitry. Or send to Russian hackers to find loopholes.

JHK only steals that ERP IU?who will believe your story? 😂
 
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But how they gonna detect cars which go offline ah. Since their lame device doesn't connect to internet? How to provide road updates? Means their device also connect to internet? Needs sim card??? Inside tunnel how??
If your 4G/5G becomes slow, you know this is one of the contributor.

Or who knows, 3G is decommissioned and turned on for this purpose. 2016 don't think got 4G.
 

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you wait till the first 5 years where AD are absolutely pissed with car owners complaining battery flat.

then suddenly, all the power wires are linked with ACC/ignition/kl15

even the current V1 IU, my AD already use ACC for power.

it is stupid to even use batt power
Current IU is powered 24x7. I believe LTA don't want to entertain too many warranty claims because on and off often will kill the device faster.
 

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so many questions, so little answers. feels like 3rd world banana politics.

should not be launch, period. but the ego behind it, priceless
The question I asked about repeatability of the route data more than 6 mths ago is not even answered. Very high chance it is not repeatable.

Must be stillbmonitoring or trying to find an answer.
 

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I noticed that the motorcycle OBU did not have antenna. Thus most likely they will not have some function of erp 2.0

I do think the 1pc OBU can be used on motorcycle is just a cover story. The battery in motorcycle is small, thus it cannot install too many accessories that needs power. Thus they omitted certain function to keep the power consumption low for motorcycle.

Cars on the other hand, will get the whole full function of erp2.0. I do suspect the processor will need considerable power. Got to see how they wire all the 3 Pcs of the OBU. Based on the crude pic, I will suspect power source will go into the processor, then the processor will in turn power the display etc.

Thus most likely the processor will have some sort of power storage ie battery inside it. And the processor might have some sort of wireless network cap. Becos GPS antenna does not really need power, the antenna most likely use to tap into some sort of wireless network
Go to an ulu place with limited telco signals. Get a spectrum analyser, you'll be able to get some info of it.
 

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Current IU is powered 24x7. I believe LTA don't want to entertain too many warranty claims because on and off often will kill the device faster.
yeah..

but a lot, even from ADs, are wired to ignition right from the start because users are more concerned with their batteries. the IU lasts 10 years without issue.

the very fact that LTA has this misguided concept that often turning on and off leads to failure shows the lack of trust in reliability of their own devices.

a lot of electronic devices in the car are wired to ignition, without any standby power to battery. all of them are reliable and lives to their life span
 
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