[Maylyn - Networking] ASUS ZenWiFi XT8

[evq]

For 1Gbps plan, only MyRepublic is asymmetric (download up to 1Gbps, and upload up to 500Mbps). All other ISPs are symmetric, including Viewquest.

any idea why MyRepublic limits its upload speed?

 

[xiaofan]

Should be right. MyRepublic is asymmetric. Same as VQ. The rest of the ISPs are symmetric.

sorry, dont get what u mean.

I think he misunderstood you and tried to explain that the upload speed of yours is okay.

But the question here is different. It I'd about slow wireless upload speed of XT8 for Chevalier.

Hey guys, need to pick your brains.

I have the XT8. Satellite running on wifi backhaul.

My download speeds are great at 600-600.
Upload speeds are odd, can’t go past 200.

Connecting an ethernet cable, I can go to 400-600.

Can anyone shed some light on how I can improve my upload speeds?

 

[xiaofan]

any idea why MyRepublic limits its upload speed?

Sorry no ideas.

It should not affect majority of the users.

BTW, for 2Gbps/1+1Gbps users, download is up to 2Gbps combined, but upload will be limited due to the limitations of GPON (1.244Gbps theoretical max or 1Gbps if the ISP further limits the speed).

GPON technology used by ONT will have a theoretical max speeds of 2.488 Gbits/s download speed, and an upload speed of 1.244 Gbits/s.

 

[xiaofan]

Hey guys, need to pick your brains.

I have the XT8. Satellite running on wifi backhaul.

My download speeds are great at 600-600.
Upload speeds are odd, can’t go past 200.

Connecting an ethernet cable, I can go to 400-600.

Can anyone shed some light on how I can improve my upload speeds?

On cable I get 900+ up down through the lan ports on the XT8

So your main XT8 performs as per normal. As for the satellite, the wired upload/download speed is also normal at 600Mbps as you use wireless backhaul.

Still I think your link quality may not be so good. Try to move them closer to see if the wired upload/download speed improve to 800Mbps+.

That may also improve your wireless upload speed on the satellite.

Sometimes with low signal, upload speed gets more affected than the download.

XT8 spec:
802.11ax (5GHZ-1)：up to 1201 Mbps
802.11ax (5GHZ-2)：up to 4804 Mbps

It is normal you get 600Mbps from the XT8 satellite as it is using 5GHz-1 to serve the wireless (2*2 AX 80MHz).

What is your previous mesh?

 

[giraffey]

I think he misunderstood you and tried to explain that the upload speed of yours is okay.

But the question here is different. It I'd about slow wireless upload speed of XT8 for Chevalier.

hmm.. I think there are 2 questions. One from evq and one from Chevalier.

-from Chevalier.. its the query on the slower wireless upload speed on the satellite.

-from evq.. think he asked on why his upload speeds are halved even if testing from the ONT. But, yup, like you pointed out as well, it is asymmetric (1Gbps download, 500Mbps upload) for MR. Asymmetric speeds used to be common in the past though. But, the other ISPs have already made them symmetrical. This is just an ISP set limit to set it as Asymmetric (on evq's follow-up question).
"On mypublic 1GB plan, with LAN cable, both my main & satellite unit is getting abt 800+ / 450. Tried direct from ONT, also abt this speed. Likely ISP problem."

on your earlier post, VQ is actually asymmetric. Those VQ users who share the speedtest results on some post are actually 2Gbps subscribers which allows them to show the 1Gbps download & upload. For those on the 1Gbps plans, they can only hit 500Mbps upload max.

 

[giraffey]

Hey guys, need to pick your brains.

I have the XT8. Satellite running on wifi backhaul.

My download speeds are great at 600-600.
Upload speeds are odd, can’t go past 200.

Connecting an ethernet cable, I can go to 400-600.

Can anyone shed some light on how I can improve my upload speeds?

The other potential possibility is that the satellite's wireless settings could be broadcasting smaller bandwidth or it has a wireless interferences. Have you tried putting the units in a direct line of sight, restarting them and testing it out again?

 

[xiaofan]

hmm.. I think there are 2 questions. One from evq and one from Chevalier.
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on your earlier post, VQ is actually asymmetric. Those VQ users who share the speedtest results on some post are actually 2Gbps subscribers which allows them to show the 1Gbps download & upload. For those on the 1Gbps plans, they can only hit 500Mbps upload max.

I see. Looks like you are correct that there are two questions asked here.

On VQ, I think it is symmetrical for 1Gbps plan. Hopefully VQ users can chime in and clarify.

Reference: I do not think majority of VQ users are on 2Gbps plan to clinch the following award.
https://www.speedtest.net/awards/viewqwest
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ViewQwest is Singapore's Speedtest Awards Winner for fixed network speed during Q2-Q3 2020. To win this award, ViewQwest achieved a Speed Score of 211.71, with top download speeds of 728.74 Mbps and top upload speeds of 722.51 Mbps.
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Anyway, I just learned that VQ no longer offers IPv6, just like MyRepublic. I thought they were still offering IPv6 as back in 2014 but I was wrong. So indeed I could be wrong again.

 

[giraffey]

I see. Looks like you are correct that there are two questions asked here.

On VQ, I think it is symmetrical for 1Gbps plan. Hopefully VQ users can chime in and clarify.

Reference: I do not think majority of VQ users are on 2Gbps plan to clinch the following award.
https://www.speedtest.net/awards/viewqwest
***
ViewQwest is Singapore's Speedtest Awards Winner for fixed network speed during Q2-Q3 2020. To win this award, ViewQwest achieved a Speed Score of 211.71, with top download speeds of 728.74 Mbps and top upload speeds of 722.51 Mbps.
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Anyway, I just learned that VQ no longer offers IPv6, just like MyRepublic. I thought they were still offering IPv6 as back in 2014 but I was wrong. So indeed I could be wrong again.

I'm a VQ subscriber myself. Yes, they don't offer Ipv6 now. It used to be enabled in the earlier days.

It has been asymmetric from the early days unless it has been changed recently.

Anyway.. the methodology used by oakla's speedtest awards don't seem correct anyway. Even based on speedtest results, I do get higher speeds on other ISPs. So, its quite strange.

 

[Chevalier]

The other potential possibility is that the satellite's wireless settings could be broadcasting smaller bandwidth or it has a wireless interferences. Have you tried putting the units in a direct line of sight, restarting them and testing it out again?

From the main node that is on ethernet backhaul, wired speeds are 900+ up and down, on my VQ 1gbps plan

On wireless from the main node that is on ethernet backhaul, I hit 800 up but only <200 down


On my previously Orbi wifi 5 setup, I could hit 500+ up and down

So my question is, why is my upload speeds slow when I’m on wifi 6 compared to wifi 5

Whereas my download speeds are stellar on wifi 6 compared to wifi 5

 

[xiaofan]

I'm a VQ subscriber myself. Yes, they don't offer Ipv6 now. It used to be enabled in the earlier days.

It has been asymmetric from the early days unless it has been changed recently.

Anyway.. the methodology used by oakla's speedtest awards don't seem correct anyway. Even based on speedtest results, I do get higher speeds on other ISPs. So, its quite strange.

I just checked earlier SpeedTest results from VQ 1Gbps plan and indeed there were not symmetrical (upload limit to 500Mbps). But the results shown recently are symmetrical.

As for the Ookla test methodology, then indeed some others also think it is not that fair. For example, MyRepublic has a slower 200 Mbps plan, if not it may surpass Viewquest. M1 and Starhub have many 500Mbps plan users so their results may be skewed towards lower score.

Anyway, it is just an awards, I would not recommend VQ anyway since it is not that stable.

BT, if M1 follows the trend this year, it will go the route of VQ as being unstable and I will no longer recommend M1.

 

[xiaofan]

Hey guys, need to pick your brains.

I have the XT8. Satellite running on wifi backhaul.

My download speeds are great at 600-600.
Upload speeds are odd, can’t go past 200.

Connecting an ethernet cable, I can go to 400-600.

Can anyone shed some light on how I can improve my upload speeds?

It could be a common XT8 problem. Maybe you can try upgrade the FW to see if that helps, or contract Asus for help.

It seems to me ZenWiFi XT8 and CT8 are not that mature as of now and there are many issues reported in this forum and elsewhere.

Ref: slow upload speed for XT8 reported in Reddit
https://www.reddit.com/r/HomeNetworking/comments/i0w2r5/asus_zenwifi_xt8_upload_speed_problem/

Hopefully future FW updates will sort out the issues.

Netgear RBK852 seems to be more consistent.

But of course there are users who seem to do fine with XT8 and wireless backhaul, hopefully they may help you by sharing their experiences.

 

[kashix]

It could be a common XT8 problem. Maybe you can try upgrade the FW to see if that helps, or contract Asus for help.

It seems to me ZenWiFi XT8 and CT8 are not that mature as of now and there are many issues reported in this forum and elsewhere.

Ref: slow upload speed for XT8 reported in Reddit
https://www.reddit.com/r/HomeNetworking/comments/i0w2r5/asus_zenwifi_xt8_upload_speed_problem/

Hopefully future FW updates will sort out the issues.

Netgear RBK852 seems to be more consistent.

But of course there are users who seem to do fine with XT8 and wireless backhaul, hopefully they may help you by sharing their experiences.

Have many friends and colleagues using xt8. All no problem at all. Online things you see and believe 50% can le. Most is user problem, tbh.

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[xiaofan]

Have many friends and colleagues using xt8. All no problem at all. Online things you see and believe 50% can le. Most is user problem, tbh.

I know I know that many users are happy about XT8 and CT8. On the other hand, there are quite some users who are facing problems. Just saying it is mostly a user problem does not help the user.

Hopefully XT8 users can jump in to help sort out the slow download issue.

 

[xiaofan]

Hey guys, need to pick your brains.

I have the XT8. Satellite running on wifi backhaul.

My download speeds are great at 600-600.
Upload speeds are odd, can’t go past 200.

Connecting an ethernet cable, I can go to 400-600.

Can anyone shed some light on how I can improve my upload speeds?

I still suspect link quality issue between the main node and the mesh node. If possible try to move them a bit closer and test again.

You may contact Asus for help as well since there are similar reports in Reddit.

 

[Chevalier]

I still suspect link quality issue between the main node and the mesh node. If possible try to move them a bit closer and test again.

You may contact Asus for help as well since there are similar reports in Reddit.

Yeah I’ll probably do that. The thing is that I face a similar issue on the main node as well.

 

[xiaofan]

Yeah I’ll probably do that. The thing is that I face a similar issue on the main node as well.

I understand.
You mentioned wired speed on the main node is good on your VQ 1Gbps subscription (900Mbps+ download and upload).

You are facing slow wireless upload speed on both the main node (800Mbps+ download but less than 200Mbps upload) and mesh node (600Mbps+ download but less than 200Mbps upload).

Simple troubleshooting steps while you contact Asus for help.

1) Try speedtest again, I like to use Viewquest SpeedTest server recently so it is unlikely the problem but you can try different speedtest server to rule out speedtest server problem. Make sure you use the SpeedTest App and not browser.

2) Power down the satellite node and connect to the main node, test again to see if the upload issue gets resolved. This may give Asus support or the forum members here some clues of the issue.

802.11ax (5GHZ-1)：up to 1201 Mbps
802.11ax (5GHZ-2)：up to 4804 Mbps

If possible, separate the SSID for this experiment and test with 5GHz-1. Higher speed 5GHz-2 will be used for wireless backhaul.

 

[Chevalier]

I understand.
You mentioned wired speed on the main node is good on your VQ 1Gbps subscription (900Mbps+ download and upload).

You are facing slow wireless upload speed on both the main node (800Mbps+ download but less than 200Mbps upload) and mesh node (600Mbps+ download but less than 200Mbps upload).

Simple troubleshooting steps while you contact Asus for help.

1) Try speedtest again, I like to use Viewquest SpeedTest server recently so it is unlikely the problem but you can try different speedtest server to rule out speedtest server problem. Make sure you use the SpeedTest App and not browser.

2) Power down the satellite node and connect to the main node, test again to see if the upload issue gets resolved. This may give Asus support or the forum members here some clues of the issue.

802.11ax (5GHZ-1)：up to 1201 Mbps
802.11ax (5GHZ-2)：up to 4804 Mbps

If possible, separate the SSID for this experiment and test with 5GHz-1. Higher speed 5GHz-2 will be used for wireless backhaul.

I’ve actually done all this! Haha I appreciate You taking the time to summarise my symptoms and proposing further steps to take.

I’ll share the outcome once I contact Asia

 

[IAmZTX]

Anyone can help me with the configuration, i just setup one router from ONT to XT8 main router to test.

I am getting 94.5Mbps and 94.8Mbps connecting to 5.1. Whats wrong?

Edit: Wireless speed improve. Turn out my WAN connection is connected with 100Mbps hence the cap.

 

[Leedaniel81]

Hi guys

Need advise.
Recently brought a Linksys E8450 which suppose to cover up to 2500 sqft. Upon installation coverage no difference from my default SingTel router. Linksys says they can’t do anything since it’s an issue with our region due to the walls built.

Now i am looking at the Asus ZenWiFi AX Mini (trio) . Any advise if this will eliminate dead wifi spots? Am on 1300 sqft.

Any advise appreciated. Thanks

 

[xonix]

Hi guys

Need advise.
Recently brought a Linksys E8450 which suppose to cover up to 2500 sqft. Upon installation coverage no difference from my default SingTel router. Linksys says they can’t do anything since it’s an issue with our region due to the walls built.

Now i am looking at the Asus ZenWiFi AX Mini (trio) . Any advise if this will eliminate dead wifi spots? Am on 1300 sqft.

Any advise appreciated. Thanks

Please share your house layout here.