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What logic? You mean like iPad because it is tablet you expect low battery life? Than what is the logic of putting a high power CPU on the Pro in the first place? The Pro is a office productivity tools and targeted to road executive that need a full blown processor. If short battery life might as well buy a large laptop that cost less put in office that need AC all the time.

What logic?

the logic is...
u trying to ask a desktop equivalent computing power machine to be like a tablet power..

do u know i5 and a tablet processor is 2 different thingy and consume different power and give out different output too?

even a ultrabook
something that is as light as a surface pro....
if u found something that is having LONGER battery life..
does it have a touch screen? is it a same price? even have a digitizer?
same weight?

if you compare to a tablet
can your tablet do what this machine or any i5 tablet do?

a 4 hours battery life for an i5 is considered decent and average
if you want anything like 6-7 hours..
look at most of the design.. it is not as light, it is not a touch screen, it is MUCH expensive...

so what you asking is not much logic....
give you manageable weight by giving average battery life.. complain
give you LONG battery life but heavy like hell tablet,... complain this too heavy as tablet...

that's why no logic...

battery in any mobile computing is the heaviest item.. even on the phone...
 

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What logic? You mean like iPad because it is tablet you expect low battery life? Than what is the logic of putting a high power CPU on the Pro in the first place? The Pro is a office productivity tools and targeted to road executive that need a full blown processor. If short battery life might as well buy a large laptop that cost less put in office that need AC all the time.

What logic?
Tink hes just trying to say pro consumes more power n thus need the ac cord on standby, so it will be good if pro got ipad kinda batt life.
 

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the logic is...
u trying to ask a desktop equivalent computing power machine to be like a tablet power..

do u know i5 and a tablet processor is 2 different thingy and consume different power and give out different output too?

even a ultrabook
something that is as light as a surface pro....
if u found something that is having LONGER battery life..
does it have a touch screen? is it a same price? even have a digitizer?
same weight?

if you compare to a tablet
can your tablet do what this machine or any i5 tablet do?

a 4 hours battery life for an i5 is considered decent and average
if you want anything like 6-7 hours..
look at most of the design.. it is not as light, it is not a touch screen, it is MUCH expensive...

so what you asking is not much logic....
give you manageable weight by giving average battery life.. complain
give you LONG battery life but heavy like hell tablet,... complain this too heavy as tablet...

that's why no logic...

battery in any mobile computing is the heaviest item.. even on the phone...

Its more about technology than logic. For now, the technology available doesnt give this sort of performance n batt life.
 

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Its more about technology than logic. For now, the technology available doesnt give this sort of performance n batt life.

yeah since the technology isnt here yet...
there's no logic asking this question in the first place
cuz it just no logic asking for things there's isnt here yet..

want longer battery? get a lower processing power computer...

i also wish...a computer that is so light ..
and yet big screen and thin and light
unbreakable, total voice control....
and a full day of computing power...
can even scan the environment...

i saw this product before.. it was in a Star Trek movie...
 

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yeah since the technology isnt here yet...
there's no logic asking this question in the first place
cuz it just no logic asking for things there's isnt here yet..

want longer battery? get a lower processing power computer...

i also wish...a computer that is so light ..
and yet big screen and thin and light
unbreakable, total voice control....
and a full day of computing power...
can even scan the environment...

i saw this product before.. it was in a Star Trek movie...

yes the smaller the thing the lesser and smaller parts can be fit in thus in the case an i5 chip is place in this tablet, it need a more powerful battery to ppwer a powerful processor. you need to pay a price for another benefit, nothing comes free. anyways u guys can take a look at acer iconia w700 same specs as the surface pro with a much longer battery life like 7hours and also around the same weight as the surface pro with also a version that include a keyboard case and the price is believe to be cheaper than the pro but no news on whether pro will be released in SG..

http://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/tablet-den-328/acer-iconia-w700-official-thread-folio-dock-version-4153352.html
 

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yes the smaller the thing the lesser and smaller parts can be fit in thus in the case an i5 chip is place in this tablet, it need a more powerful battery to ppwer a powerful processor. you need to pay a price for another benefit, nothing comes free. anyways u guys can take a look at acer iconia w700 same specs as the surface pro with a much longer battery life like 7hours and also around the same weight as the surface pro with also a version that include a keyboard case and the price is believe to be cheaper than the pro but no news on whether pro will be released in SG..

http://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/tablet-den-328/acer-iconia-w700-official-thread-folio-dock-version-4153352.html

it doesnt come with digitzer screen...
i believe digitizer screen eat more batt?

yes price is cheaper..
but u didnt calculate the windows 8 pro vs windows 8
a digitizer vs non digitizer

btw i never said surface have superb batt life..
i said average.. for the size, price, design....

have to balance mah
 

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it doesnt come with digitzer screen...
i believe digitizer screen eat more batt?

yes price is cheaper..
but u didnt calculate the windows 8 pro vs windows 8
a digitizer vs non digitizer

btw i never said surface have superb batt life..
i said average.. for the size, price, design....

have to balance mah

i believe it won't eat so much battery but a bit?
yes there is so many to compare,so eventually its up to the user liking which, needs which feature etc etc.

cheers,
ben.
 

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i believe it won't eat so much battery but a bit?
yes there is so many to compare,so eventually its up to the user liking which, needs which feature etc etc.

cheers,
ben.

well it is not even sold in singapore yet.. LOL

but according to my microsoft account manager
he said a local company already been authorized to distribute the surface pro
and now finalizing the pricing and etc...

dunno true or not...
 

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well it is not even sold in singapore yet.. LOL

but according to my microsoft account manager
he said a local company already been authorized to distribute the surface pro
and now finalizing the pricing and etc...

dunno true or not...

yup.. no news so far... but anyways i think its going to be around $1000-1300SGD.
 

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You see. I am actually quite interested in Surface Pro because I am always on the field w/o AC so weight/size and battery is important to me. The Pro is supposedly replacement for ultrabook like performance but tablet format especially with the keyboard cover it is quite good and if battery is longer then it is very ultimate.

yup... battery life of the pro is the worst of all the ultrabook...
so those that do not have power access, will need to consider the pro carefully.
 

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yup.. no news so far... but anyways i think its going to be around $1000-1300SGD.

taking the reference of the surface rt pricing which is just released, multiply it by 1.33x...

it would exceed $1.3k for just the naked pro 128GB...
n shop would like to play with numbers ending with 8...
so my guess that the pro will sell for.

64gb pro - 1198/1208
128gb pro - 1338/1348
 

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Cheaper than what I expected. Can really consider for the novelty
 

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taking the reference of the surface rt pricing which is just released, multiply it by 1.33x...

it would exceed $1.3k for just the naked pro 128GB...
n shop would like to play with numbers ending with 8...
so my guess that the pro will sell for.

64gb pro - 1198/1208
128gb pro - 1338/1348


i doubt it will be priced so attractively

if u look at their mouse and other hardware..
with local distributor warranty and etc.. usually higher than american market
 

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What logic? You mean like iPad because it is tablet you expect low battery life? Than what is the logic of putting a high power CPU on the Pro in the first place? The Pro is a office productivity tools and targeted to road executive that need a full blown processor. If short battery life might as well buy a large laptop that cost less put in office that need AC all the time.

What logic?


ipad got low battery life?

You can't expect desktop-like ability AND iOS/Android tablet levels of battery life at this point. The Pro serves a specific group of users who wants style over battery life, in a tablet-like package. That's the logic, get it?
 

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If you want the Pro as a tablet, just underclock its CPU to NVidia Tegra 3/iPad's power consumption? [Separate power plan for plugged in and off]

17-25 watts TDP > 5 watts TDP.
 

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A good alternative may be the Dell Latitude 10... looks pretty good... and the battery life is good, you have a 4 cell option though.
 

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Lenovo Thinkpad 2 - 9-10 hrs battery on Atom Clover Trail with Wacom digitizer, Acer W700 - 7 hrs Core i5 no digitizer, Surface Pro/ATIV PC Pro - 5hrs Core i5 with Wacom digitizer.

All running Win8.
 

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should actually use acer w700 as comparision. they match each other specs to specs
 
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