No, I profess i'm biased lor.
Cos I no longer have much faith in the ruling party liao.
MND report on AIM
- Thread starter koxinga
- Start date
No, I profess i'm biased lor.
Cos I no longer have much faith in the ruling party liao.
No. Open tender simply means open to all to apply. The actual number that returns is up to the industry to decided. For procuring officers, sometimes a balance has to be struck. If you leave specs too open ended, you end up with dozens of tender returns. If you leave specs too specific, you end up with 1 or 2 and be accused of rigging.
The minimum of three rule is meant for quotations (under 70k) based on government procurement guidelines. This is because it is issued specifically to three suppliers instead of being open to the general market.
From your statement here, it just shows that you don't really know how the tendering procedures works.
May I refer you to the following link to get a better understanding of the process. Start from Para 74 onwards.
http://statutes.agc.gov.sg/aol/sear...6a-4be82a360786" Status:inforce Depth:0;rec=0
xdivider
Great Supremacy Member
- Joined
- Nov 8, 2000
- Messages
- 60,025
- Reaction score
- 18,641
Need to confirm as i dun read vegetable wrapping papers. Any of the official media mentioned anything abt someone saying, buying TC software is like buying excel off the shelf of Sim Lim Sq? That should really be the arrow in the knee for all this for Teo Ho Pin..........
(AIM) Khaw Boon Wan dodging Miss Sylvia Lim's question in Parliament - YouTube
Khaw said "there are standard software available.."
Which makes me wonder: Why then did PAP need to spend a whopping $24m to develop the TC management software (ie the now obsolete one whose right was later sold to AIM?)!!
Come to think of it.. if there's nothing wrong for the spouse of a country's PM to helm the country's multi-billions SWF (ok because they said she's the.. er.. "best candidate" for the job), then, what's wrong with awarding the TC management contract to a party's "close business associate"? Especially when all proper procedure--officially applying for waiver of tender for the first contract, then calling for open tender for subsequent contract--have been adhered to.
To me, AIM's deal doesn't seem right because why was there a need to sell the software right to a PAP-owned (ie completely under the control of PAP) shell company with a ONE MONTH TERMINATION CLAUSE (in the event the town council changed hands)?
Nope. Not sure about other MSM but as far as I know, ST made absolutely no mention of it..
Here you go. By no less that HDB's spinoff company.
Surbana Technologies Pte Ltd - Products - The IEMS™ System Architecture
at least you are honest for once about being biased...but please do not make excuses for it...it reduces the honesty level
were you one of those baying for the blood of the procurement officer for the bromption case...also single bid lei
he never stopped any other party from bidding...surely you know its rather pointless to suggest anything to a self professed biased person since she will find all ways and means to defend the indefensible
lol, you are behaving exactly like khaw now so you should understand how he feels...(provided you are not biased and honest with yourself).
you think they didnt know about FMSS etc long ago? all these were raised to rebut sylvia's holier than thou attitude...so end up both parties slinging mud at each other and ANY unbiased person will know both have their faults but you kind of admitted you are blind to one's faults and will always think the worst of the other, regardless of the facts.
why are you mentioning AIM when you earlier said the termination was from the MA and not AIM? in any case, i stated earlier the process of both AIM and FMSS deserved to be scrutinised by the public. however, it appears that AIM is being dismantled whereas FMSS is still being defended as the right thing to do
xdivider
Great Supremacy Member
- Joined
- Nov 8, 2000
- Messages
- 60,025
- Reaction score
- 18,641
were you one of those baying for the blood of the procurement officer for the bromption case...also single bid lei
surely you know its rather pointless to suggest anything to a self professed biased person since she will find all ways and means to defend the indefensible
There is a diff between rigging the bid and putting a bid and the govt-linked companies not bidding. Nice job trying to lump them together.........
lol, you are behaving exactly like khaw now so you should understand how he feels...(provided you are not biased and honest with yourself).
you think they didnt know about FMSS etc long ago? all these were raised to rebut sylvia's holier than thou attitude...so end up both parties slinging mud at each other and ANY unbiased person will know both have their faults but you kind of admitted you are blind to one's faults and will always think the worst of the other, regardless of the facts.
why are you mentioning AIM when you earlier said the termination was from the MA and not AIM? in any case, i stated earlier the process of both AIM and FMSS deserved to be scrutinised by the public. however, it appears that AIM is being dismantled whereas FMSS is still being defended as the right thing to do
Hehe and you are just like Khaw, dodging my question of "if you were WP, given the already happened situation that only FMSS bidded for the OPEN TENDER, what would you do?"
What would you do?
And please lah, read carefully again, I'm questioning the 1 MONTH TERMINATION CLAUSE (for the use of the TC software), the very question that Sylvia asked--and which Khaw was trying to dodge (see the youtude video I posted earlier). What has it got to do with FMSS?
In case you still don't get it, I'm questioning the MOTIVE of PAP TCs inserting the 1 MONTH TERMINATION CLAUSE in the event that a TC changes hand--ie. from PAP to Opposition party. So what has it got to do with FMSS?
lol, you are behaving exactly like khaw now so you should understand how he feels...(provided you are not biased and honest with yourself).
you think they didnt know about FMSS etc long ago? all these were raised to rebut sylvia's holier than thou attitude...so end up both parties slinging mud at each other and ANY unbiased person will know both have their faults but you kind of admitted you are blind to one's faults and will always think the worst of the other, regardless of the facts.
why are you mentioning AIM when you earlier said the termination was from the MA and not AIM? in any case, i stated earlier the process of both AIM and FMSS deserved to be scrutinised by the public. however, it appears that AIM is being dismantled whereas FMSS is still being defended as the right thing to do
Alas you don't read newspaper (ST in this case), do you?
Note that even Khaw (as reported by ST) stated there was nothing wrong with WP engaging FMSS (whose bosses are close business associate of WP) as their TC managing agent liao. Which is why he said therefore there's also nothing wrong with PAP selling the TC software right to PAP-owned AIM.
It was Teo Ho Pin who geh kiang (perhaps trying to score point?), tried to stir up the FMSS-being-closely-associated-with-WP issue again. And what I did in my earlier post, was to laugh at the irony (and stupidity) of his "accusation" lah!
at least you are honest for once about being biased...but please do not make excuses for it...it reduces the honesty level
Hehe it's better than trying to pretend to be "fair"--when one is obviously not lor..
Also better than keep making excuses instead of simply answering a simple question (in your case, my question of "what do you suggest WP should do since only FMSS had responded to its OPEN TENDER last year)? It also reducing your honesty level leh, doesn't it?
were you one of those baying for the blood of the procurement officer for the bromption case...also single bid lei
surely you know its rather pointless to suggest anything to a self professed biased person since she will find all ways and means to defend the indefensible
No, I'm not one of those--though I did comment on the bromption case.
And I profess to be biased because I trust WP more than I trust ruling party. You defend only those whom you have faith in. If I don't trust WP, then I won't defend WP.
And yet, they chose to spend a bomb ($24m) to develop the whole software system from scratch, tsk tsk.
Important Forum Advisory Note
This forum is moderated by volunteer moderators who will react only to members' feedback on posts. Moderators are not employees or representatives of HWZ Forums. Forum members and moderators are responsible for their own posts.
Please refer to our Community Guidelines and Standards and Terms and Conditions for more information.
