MyRepublic fibre - Part 4

[henrylim1972]

I am not a PRC media consumer - so it does not bother me much... Here's another report generated based on tracert to zw-n-v.youku.com

 

[Lehnsherr]

Here is my personal view on china website related problem. Experts correct me if I am wrong

Accessing china websites was never a fast thing to me, no matter which ISP (I have been with Singtel,Starhub,Qala,NTT and now MR) its always slower than ang moh sites.

For those streaming sites I believe they get their revenue from:
1. ads...every one of them has tons and tons of them
2. monthly subscription for better speed, better quality and also latest content

Based on this 2 points, why in the world would these streaming sites allocate bandwidth to people outside of china not paying the subscription OR not within the target of the products/games/services featured within the ads? I know I wouldn't. Anyone outside these 2 groups is just eating up my bandwidth slowing down the amount of ads I can display and chalking up complains on slow speed for subscribers paying money.

Also don't forget that their timezone is exactly the same as us, which means that when u wanna sit down and watch something, they are also doing the same.

Just look at what Viewquest is doing...they definitely have better routes than MR, in the biz for longer time and yet they have to employ the use of VPN...this just shows that its not just a matter of routes and peering to me..we must be "within China" to experience what we consider lag free streaming. Maybe MR can work out something with their teleport add on. Let users VPN to China.

 

[Solkarnar]

Here is my personal view on china website related problem. Experts correct me if I am wrong

Accessing china websites was never a fast thing to me, no matter which ISP (I have been with Singtel,Starhub,Qala,NTT and now MR) its always slower than ang moh sites.

For those streaming sites I believe they get their revenue from:
1. ads...every one of them has tons and tons of them
2. monthly subscription for better speed, better quality and also latest content

Based on this 2 points, why in the world would these streaming sites allocate bandwidth to people outside of china not paying the subscription OR not within the target of the products/games/services featured within the ads? I know I wouldn't. Anyone outside these 2 groups is just eating up my bandwidth slowing down the amount of ads I can display and chalking up complains on slow speed for subscribers paying money.

Also don't forget that their timezone is exactly the same as us, which means that when u wanna sit down and watch something, they are also doing the same.

Just look at what Viewquest is doing...they definitely have better routes than MR, in the biz for longer time and yet they have to employ the use of VPN...this just shows that its not just a matter of routes and peering to me..we must be "within China" to experience what we consider lag free streaming. Maybe MR can work out something with their teleport add on. Let users VPN to China.

I would like to point out that users are not expecting HD lag free streaming experience like youtube. Users are comparing the sames sites across different ISPs and wondering why they are not getting the same experience. When M1 4G LTE speeds are better than land line speeds, I think users have the right to call out the ISP on it's short comings.

Most users, are not really interested nor is able to understand the technical jargon the ISP throws at us. They can only see why Singtel/M1/VQ can access and we cannot.

 

[Lehnsherr]

I would like to point out that users are not expecting HD lag free streaming experience like youtube. Users are comparing the sames sites across different ISPs and wondering why they are not getting the same experience. When M1 4G LTE speeds are better than land line speeds, I think users have the right to call out the ISP on it's short comings.

Most users, are not really interested nor is able to understand the technical jargon the ISP throws at us. They can only see why Singtel/M1/VQ can access and we cannot.

You do have a point on that, why can access on other ISP but not MR. Could it be due to peering and routes? If this is the case the rest of the RSP will have huge advantage over MR. They are richer and been around a longer time.

On my personal experience in general streaming applications are more or less the same speed as with most of ISP I been with (to be exact, Starhub, NTT and MR). In the ballpark of 200-500kb/s speeds but ok at the lower quality.

However now one thing that puzzles me is that my PPstream is doing in excess of 4Mb/s but I can't do anything with youku. So if its a route thing then what is happening?

Screenshot:

 

[sailen]

a lot drop packet to china site


Tracing route to cc00033.h.cnc.ccgslb.net [61.240.135.16]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 1 ms <1 ms 8 ms
2 4 ms 4 ms 5 ms
3 4 ms 3 ms 5 ms
4 5 ms 5 ms 4 ms 10GE-103-6-148-29.myrepublic.com.sg [103.6.148.29]
5 4 ms 5 ms 4 ms MYR-0001.asianetcom.net [203.192.154.153]
6 10 ms 6 ms 7 ms te0-2-0-0.wr1.sin0.asianetcom.net [61.14.157.129]
7 39 ms 36 ms 42 ms te0-1-2-0.wr1.hkg0.asianetcom.net [61.14.157.73]
8 36 ms 35 ms 35 ms ge-4-1-0-0.cr4.hkg3.asianetcom.net [61.14.157.142]
9 36 ms 36 ms 35 ms gi9-0-0.gw2.hkg3.asianetcom.net [202.147.16.94]
10 36 ms 37 ms 37 ms hnk-b2-link.telia.net [213.248.95.65]
11 187 ms 187 ms 187 ms 219.158.33.181
12 227 ms 203 ms * 219.158.102.165
13 197 ms 203 ms 193 ms 219.158.96.205
14 198 ms 198 ms 216 ms 219.158.11.13
15 286 ms 292 ms * 219.158.100.118
16 * 287 ms * 61.182.179.162
17 428 ms 424 ms 428 ms 221.192.38.22
18 410 ms 411 ms 413 ms 61.240.159.42
19 * * * Request timed out.
20 349 ms 350 ms 353 ms 61.240.135.16

Trace complete.

 

[freak_creeper21]

true enough... going to china website is very very very slow... using other ISP is very fast. maybe the MR tech team can help...

me only doing tracert to 小米手机官网——小米手机和小米电视唯一官方正品销售网站

not even a streaming website. i just going there for web surfing...

tracert 小米手机官网——小米手机和小米电视唯一官方正品销售网站

Tracing route to cc00033.h.cnc.ccgslb.net [112.90.172.59]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 4 ms 4 ms 1 ms 192.168.1.88
2 4 ms 3 ms 4 ms 172.24.0.1
3 9 ms 8 ms 83 ms 192.168.255.2
4 5 ms 6 ms 5 ms 203.117.132.9
5 12 ms 7 ms 8 ms anutsint10-ancorets01.starhub.net.sg [203.118.15
.38]
6 211 ms 210 ms 210 ms sjo-bb1-link.telia.net [213.248.84.101]
7 217 ms 217 ms 222 ms sjo-bb1-link.telia.net [213.155.137.134]
8 * * * Request timed out.
9 368 ms 364 ms 362 ms 219.158.102.197
10 355 ms 360 ms 356 ms 219.158.97.25
11 419 ms 411 ms 424 ms 219.158.11.161
12 * * * Request timed out.
13 631 ms 613 ms 627 ms 120.82.0.106
14 * * * Request timed out.
15 * * * Request timed out.
16 661 ms * 644 ms 120.80.215.46
17 * * * Request timed out.
18 * 587 ms 578 ms 112.90.172.59

Trace complete.

 

[Swordsman]

i think they offering if for u to break ur contract. to offset the termination costs

give us cash ?

 

[danxiaogui86]

give us cash ?

Nope, that will be in form of credit to offset your monthly bills

 

[savior75]

My ONT link is down.
I'm now on my backup provider.

 

[xRenol]

My ONT link is down.
I'm now on my backup provider.

Did you try to restart the ONT or power off the ONT for 10 minutes before power on?

 

[Swordsman]

Nope, that will be in form of credit to offset your monthly bills

so every month pay zero for bill ?

 

[xRenol]

so every month pay zero for bill ?

The $200 credit is to offset your monthly bills.

E.g. $49.99/mth for subscription meaning first four months ($199.96) are free. You will have to start paying on the fifth month of your contract.

 

[ahse0w]

i just got my house and is looking around for ISPs. MR seems to have alot of problems looking at the size of the threads and issues posted by users.. was initially interested in the 1Gbps offering but now not so much....

 

[misato]

i just got my house and is looking around for ISPs. MR seems to have alot of problems looking at the size of the threads and issues posted by users.. was initially interested in the 1Gbps offering but now not so much....

MR users are rather active in this forum thus its unfair to say "the size of the threads and issues posted" is alot. Most of the forum thread on MR serve more than just complain, it is also one of the official channel that MR users can come to 24/7 to look for help (thou reply in the wee hours would most likely not be answered immediately) and is also a community gathering point. Help is not only rendered by MR personnel but by fellow subscribers who chip in their own time to assist other subscribers (even those from other ISP) with issues faced and the occasional off topic informational chats.

 

[lukestar]

i just got my house and is looking around for ISPs. MR seems to have alot of problems looking at the size of the threads and issues posted by users.. was initially interested in the 1Gbps offering but now not so much....

One impt fact: When it works, no one ever "complains".

 

[danxiaogui86]

One impt fact: When it works, no one ever "complains".

Yeah, this is always the case in the service sector.
I always practice to give good feedback to service I received.

 

[aptget]

i just got my house and is looking around for ISPs. MR seems to have alot of problems looking at the size of the threads and issues posted by users.. was initially interested in the 1Gbps offering but now not so much....

thank you, so you don't hog other MR users like me

 

[aptget]

Yeah, this is always the case in the service sector.
I always practice to give good feedback to service I received.

and when one does, they'll say you are working for MR etc.

 

[aptget]

Hi everyone! Sorry we couldn't reply to every PM, but rest assured if you PMed me, your interest has been registered. We're closing slots to the beta test really soon, so if you want to participate, do so quickly!

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[Swordsman]

can mr watch those geo restricted bpl/ ucl paid sites ?