Nepal-Tibet flash flood

[Oxygenatedwater]

Efforts more upstream and around the border building are going to be recovery. Satellite imagery, drone overflight would be able to provide a good first assessment. Capabilities well within the Chinese military. FLIR equipped aircraft could pick out survivors on higher ground, if there are any. Whether or not China has these aircraft in theatre is unknown. Given the sheer volume of water running through the narrower valleys, the outcome is a forgone conclusion. Just a matter of when the Chinese is prepared to call it a recovery effort.

Further downstream where my the valley opens up, the water can spread out and there was also time for people to run to higher ground. Rescue is more probable here. Helicopters would be useful here but there must first be helicopters available and I doubt Nepal has them in enough numbers. Hopefully Nepal would accept more foreign assistance.

their rescue robots probably got use also but I never see them in any videos or pictures only on those showcase videos haolian.. not even in real ground rescue missions

 

[Scrabby]

i think officials should rename it to glacier tsunami

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glacial_lake_outburst_flood

Think improving internet connectivity, live cctv monitoring, escape stairs to higher grounds every few hundred meters interval will help.

 

[fortunecat]

I don't see china using these robots for this rescue... why ar?

Sorry ah, currently the functions are only dancing and running, haven't programmed for other stuff yet

 

[i_dun_understand]

their rescue robots probably got use also but I never see them in any videos or pictures only on those showcase videos haolian.. not even in real ground rescue missions

such robots can only operate/move in dry terrain. In such muddy condition, need heavy heavy machinery to clear the path or dig to be more effective . If not you want the first responders to use hands to slowly dig out meh ?

Then another group of ppl will say use hands , the survivor already dead liao. why didnt send in the heavy machinery.

 

[Oxygenatedwater]

such robots can only operate/move in dry terrain. In such muddy condition, need heavy heavy machinery to clear the path or dig to be more effective . If not you want the first responders to use hands to slowly dig out meh ?

Then another group of ppl will say use hands , the survivor already dead liao. why didnt send in the heavy machinery.

you have a point, but so far never see heavy machinery videos leh

 

[Oxygenatedwater]

Sorry ah, currently the functions are only dancing and running, haven't programmed for other stuff yet

sad reality?

 

[jeff79]

Moi thought the rescue work at Tibet is too slow. The golden window will be over soon. At first moi thought they will be highly efficient seeing how sophisticated their operation readiness is 🫩.. But seems like Nepal side is winning after they get in all the foreign help. Why Tibet don’t allow foreign help? Use air transport to reach those hardest hit area isn’t it more faster?? They are wasting time …

Should send first responders to the hardest hit site in helicopter. .. If wait longer, the bodies will be decomposed.

There's something that nobody mentioned.

We all see many robot play soccer robot dancing robot dogs.... Why these supposedly so high tech robots not seen during this disaster relief effort? Or if have pls show video... All is showcase only

Helicopter can hover and helivac no need to land... Fyi

First day of disaster already had site survey footage taken from helicopter, drones. 2nd day had footage of sent advance party rescuers one by one to the china custom building site using heavy lift drones. Footages of heavy lift drones sending supplies to the advance party. The footages are all over internet.

The distance from the nearest china city and airport is few hundred km away? How fast can heavy truck and heavy construction equipment travel on mountain roads. The only existing road into the custom building has few hundred meters stretch submerged few meters underwater.

Other countries sent rescue party to china side will also get struck waiting for the only road to be cleared. Use more of the limited resources at the site.

Has nepal rescuers reached the nepal side of the border crossing? Travel videos showed always has long queue of trucks and tourists waiting to cross border.

 

[i_dun_understand]

you have a point, but so far never see heavy machinery videos leh

there is no clear road path for the heavy machinery to reach that port area. The original road has been destroy completely by the flood. You see some of the rock as big as a bus. Imagine the rock hit the river banks or road, it will just smash them into pancake

Latest update is they are currently 1-2km away to the port area and they are using the heavy machinery to built a proper path (which they have been doing so) so that better/proper equipment can reach the port area.

As of now at the port area, the best they can do is use drone with different type of thermal camera to see any survivors (if any but highly unlikely).

 

[stanlawj]

ok so what about the powerful robots, robot dogs what can they do for the rescue effott? or just show only i am really curious.. this is for our future

Use some brain, have you seen any robot that can move in thick gooey MUD that is chest-deep or even deeper? In some places, the mud is more than 10m deep.

You need this:

 

[jeff79]

there is no clear road path for the heavy machinery to reach that port area. The original road has been destroy completely by the flood. You see some of the rock as big as a bus. Imagine the rock hit the river banks or road, it will just smash them into pancake

Latest update is they are currently 1-2km away to the port area and they are using the heavy machinery to built a proper path (which they have been doing so) so that better/proper equipment can reach the port area.

As of now at the port area, the best they can do is use drone with different type of thermal camera to see any survivors (if any but highly unlikely).

Learned from watching arnold Schwarzenegger movie predator, human covered with mud cannot be detected by thermal imaging.

 

[The Legionnaire]

Time to deploy all the drones..drone techs, fall in!

 

[Oxygenatedwater]

there is no clear road path for the heavy machinery to reach that port area. The original road has been destroy completely by the flood. You see some of the rock as big as a bus. Imagine the rock hit the river banks or road, it will just smash them into pancake

Latest update is they are currently 1-2km away to the port area and they are using the heavy machinery to built a proper path (which they have been doing so) so that better/proper equipment can reach the port area.

As of now at the port area, the best they can do is use drone with different type of thermal camera to see any survivors (if any but highly unlikely).

good to see them going in, but like i say all the robot dogs all for show only not even seen in the pic... salute to those resucers

 

[boredom2012]

China side say the 2nd lake is dry up already

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[testing_testing]

The last few days have been a “living nightmare” for Bhatnagar, who has tried every possible means to trace her sister and brother-in-law.

“I want someone to really slap me and wake me up from this dream,” she said, seated in the lobby of their hotel in the Nepali capital.

But the siblings have refused to give up hope, looking at every possibility of locating the couple.

“You have to take that one per cent chance; maybe someone (still) has that last breath,” Bhatnagar, 45, told The Straits Times.



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Around $1 million has been donated to Singapore Red Cross for humanitarian relief efforts along the Nepal-China border, allowing it to hit its target just three days after fund-raising efforts began on Aug 28.

On Aug 30, the non-profit also stationed volunteers at Red Cross House to provide psychological first aid to people who have been affected by the floods, and need help reconnecting with loved ones in Nepal and Tibet.



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And then you have fake experts here in edmw constantly throwing shades at the rescue work

 

[Mountainnodew]

There's something that nobody mentioned.

We all see many robot play soccer robot dancing robot dogs.... Why these supposedly so high tech robots not seen during this disaster relief effort? Or if have pls show video... All is showcase only

They scare the robot instead of rescue, end up go for a swim. These robots are not human, still need to programme their brain and train them before allowing them to take on a new function. True, all is showcase only

 

[i_dun_understand]

good to see them going in, but like i say all the robot dogs all for show only not even seen in the pic... salute to those resucers

robot dogs go there got simi use ? can they dig effectively in those muddy condition ? they dig as good as human use hands to dig lor

Must see the condition and use the correct equipment in search and rescue. not just throw anything everything into it.

 

[Oxygenatedwater]

robot dogs go there got simi use ? can they dig effectively in those muddy condition ? they dig as good as human use hands to dig lor

Must see the condition and use the correct equipment in search and rescue. not just throw anything everything into it.

im just giving an example... they are the experts.. hope the rescue effort can save more lives.

Robot showcase until sibeh geng but need to have combat rescue experiences also

 

[Oxygenatedwater]

Huh really can’t Jalan when it’s dealing with quick sand meh? Can tie a rope to the waist to prevent falling into the quick sand. They have to work as a team.

can lah.. got ways one if not you won't see rescuers going on scene to perform rescue liao some times certain parties cannot accept questions and criticisms

 

[hoolala]

 

[Mountainnodew]

https://www.facebook.com/share/p/19TG84LXMy/?mibextid=wwXIfr

okay boleh coming in to help now