Nepal-Tibet flash flood

fortunecat

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Temper your expectations. SG Govt help historically is just coordinating emails / calls from their office.
Don't expect any physical help. It's why many people don't bother filling up also cos practically no use.
You forget we are one of the only few countries to fly our people back from the middle east?

Of course this case can only wait, what other things can they do :o
 

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Dunno, package tour but we cancelled

booked another tour for $16k using the credits
So you intend to go to Base Camp 1 and then come back to Kathmandu, right?

Very expensive, but great fun, heard from my niece that she and her bf had to sit helicopter to a mountain small town to acclimatize.
 

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The flood water travelled some 72 km from the glacier on higher ground before reaching the Nepal/tibet border but no one was alerted ? Satellites never captured the image of such strong flow of water?
Sirens are good for very densely populated areas where expensive equipment can save a lot of lives eg Japan

it isn’t good when you have large area of rural places sparsely populated cos it is too expensive especially for poorer countries. Even rich countries, the deployment of such warning system may not always cover certain areas
 

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Paiseh ah I'm a noob but is this scenario something that was out of the realm of possibility? If not how could there nv be geologists who could have anticipated this and subsequently worked with authorities to undertake precaution measures?
500 lives paid for this knowledge:
1. The region is earthquake prone. You cannot even build a dam because it will be destabilised by earthquake.
2. The only solution is: GTFO. Nobody should live in the riverbed region. Everyone needs to live much higher up along the slopes (Nepal needs to do this. The border crossing at the riverbed, maybe delete it).
3. Seismic/ground movement sensor monitoring in Tibet (China can do this).

From AI:

Why a “giant dam” is a poor primary fix​

This was a high-speed ice–rock debris flow (~50 m/s over ~20 km), not a clean water flood. A large dam here would face:
  • Very steep, narrow gorges and high seismicity
  • Rapid siltation from glacial debris (the reservoir would fill with mud and rock)
  • A dam-break flood worse than the original pulse
  • Construction and access above ~2,000–4,000 m on an international border
  • No control over the next glacier collapse above the dam
 

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Now see the videos from CNN really shocking siol!

Nowhere to run! :eek:

Maybe for these type of low-land areas, there should be accessible staircases that allow people to aim for high ground. No point if you are just running along the path of the flood. No way to outrun it. 🙏
 

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So you intend to go to Base Camp 1 and then come back to Kathmandu, right?

Very expensive, but great fun, heard from my niece that she and her bf had to sit helicopter to a mountain small town to acclimatize.
How do you know that our upcoming trip involves helicopter rides?
:eek:
 
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