New 10Gbps/5Gbps/6Gbps/3Gbps XGS-PON based plans

xiaofan · Oct 26, 2023

Singtel provides next-to-non-existend documentation for the ZTE F8648P XGS-PON ONR. Maybe the existing users can share the features. It may be a bit feature rich than the normal Singtel Nokia/Huawei GPON ONR.

1) Does it allow to set up 3rd party DNS server?
2) What are the security setting features provided?
3) What are the parental control features provided?

https://www.singtel.com/content/dam.../ZTE F8648P XGSPON ONR Installation Guide.pdf

xiaofan · Oct 26, 2023

Similarly Starhub also does not provide the Nokia XGS-PON ONR documentation. It will be interesting to know the feature sets.

TanRich · Oct 26, 2023

I wish SH/MR could have provided this Nokia ONT XS-2437X-A instead. A 10G ONT which also supports Wifi 7.

https://www.nokia.com/networks/fixed-networks/ont-xs-2437x-a/

And set up a mesh network with these Nokia Wifi Beacon 24 units. Wifi 7 quad-band with 2X 2.5G and 1X 10G ports.

https://www.nokia.com/networks/fixed-networks/nokia-wifi-beacon-24/

TanRich · Oct 26, 2023

And the momentum's building with Wifi 7 APs (all 10G ports galore) out in force, not just from TP Link but also from Zyxel, Ruckus and Engenius. Still waiting for more Wifi 7 clients to appear though.

https://www.tp-link.com/us/business-networking/omada-sdn-access-point/omada-eap770/

https://store.zyxel.com/wbe660s-eu0101f.html

https://www.ruckusnetworks.com/products/wireless-access-points/r770/

https://www.engeniustech.com/engenius-products/cloud-managed-4x4-indoor-wifi-7-access-point/

iicecube · Oct 27, 2023

For the 10gb base network, if wanna use on new BTO flat, do you think will work?
Not too sure what the category cable they are using behind the wall.

Mach3.2 · Oct 27, 2023

iicecube said:
For the 10gb base network, if wanna use on new BTO flat, do you think will work?
Not too sure what the category cable they are using behind the wall.

Cat6.

All cable runs inside the walls are under 30m, shouldn't have an issue assuming your router can keep up.

iicecube · Oct 27, 2023

Mach3.2 said:
Cat6.

All cable runs inside the walls are under 30m, shouldn't have an issue assuming your router can keep up.

Hmm okay so confirmed cat6 hor than i think can upgrade my hardware.

Mach3.2 · Oct 27, 2023

iicecube said:
Hmm okay so confirmed cat6 hor than i think can upgrade my hardware.

Yes, check IMDA COPIF. Cat6 or better was mandated since at least 2013, so for flats being planned out after 2013, the cabling inside the walls have to be cat6 or better.

COPIF 2013 pg.51

COPIF 2018 pg. 54

https://www.imda.gov.sg/regulations...or-info-communication-facilities-in-buildings

keat84 · Oct 27, 2023

Wanted to check with all the brothers here, currently i am using Ubiquiti with U6-LR, USG, 8 Ports POE switch and 5 ports Flex, all is 1Gbit port.

My new BTO is ready somewhere next year, i was thinking should i upgrade to Dream Special Edition (I want to add G4 DoorBell Pro at main entrance, and probably with 2 G4 Bullet CCTV in living room and kitchen), U6-Enterprise x 2 and U6-Enterprise?

I see the new 10Gbps plan offered by SH and MR with TP-Link AXE300 and ST coming with Wifi 7 and also provide quite tokong tp-link router.

With the all thought to invest in new Unifi, should I just go for single TP-Link AXE300 and place it in living room? According to spec it can cover 3500sqft (but abit hao siao coz alot of wall in between). Can that single unit cover my whole house?

if not i need to cater for Cat6A cables for the AP, and the AP only 2.5Gbps not 10Gbps, Will it be very different from what i using now (1Gbps)?

Wanted to have the feedback how should i go? Or changing all to Ormada also good idea?

phayze · Oct 27, 2023

I'm using CAT 6 for my AP with 5Gbps link. If the price difference not a lot between for CAT6 and 6A, it will be worthwhile to go for CAT6A. If LAN cable is concealed, it will not be easy to upgrade in future.

Quality of cable is also important as i found out that some LAN cable that i have is able to be attracted by magnet.

keat84 said:
Wanted to check with all the brothers here, currently i am using Ubiquiti with U6-LR, USG, 8 Ports POE switch and 5 ports Flex, all is 1Gbit port.

My new BTO is ready somewhere next year, i was thinking should i upgrade to Dream Special Edition (I want to add G4 DoorBell Pro at main entrance, and probably with 2 G4 Bullet CCTV in living room and kitchen), U6-Enterprise x 2 and U6-Enterprise?

I see the new 10Gbps plan offered by SH and MR with TP-Link AXE300 and ST coming with Wifi 7 and also provide quite tokong tp-link router.

With the all thought to invest in new Unifi, should I just go for single TP-Link AXE300 and place it in living room? According to spec it can cover 3500sqft (but abit hao siao coz alot of wall in between). Can that single unit cover my whole house?

if not i need to cater for Cat6A cables for the AP, and the AP only 2.5Gbps not 10Gbps, Will it be very different from what i using now (1Gbps)?

Wanted to have the feedback how should i go? Or changing all to Ormada also good idea?

keat84 · Oct 27, 2023

Can I know which router, AP you are using? Can list the model that you are using?

I think question is not about the physical cables, it is more like worth to upgrade the AP from 1Gbps to 2.5Gbps?

phayze · Oct 27, 2023

I using Zyxel WAX650S with pfsense. I feel it is same compared to my previous 1Gbps link access point. Maximum speed i ever see is around 800Mbps on this ax access point.

Future access point will sure require more than 1Gbps link. Current access point is also using 802.3bt PoE, so is good to have better cable to support the wattage.

keat84 said:
Can I know which router, AP you are using? Can list the model that you are using?

I think question is not about the physical cables, it is more like worth to upgrade the AP from 1Gbps to 2.5Gbps?

IHasChimken · Oct 28, 2023

Mach3.2 said:
Cat6.

All cable runs inside the walls are under 30m, shouldn't have an issue assuming your router can keep up.

Hmm I wonder if they are any laws preventing us running fibre cables along side other cables. Planning to have my PCs in a server rack in the future. Similar to LTT's home setup, but not so extreme.

Mach3.2 · Oct 28, 2023

georgesnor said:
Hmm I wonder if they are any laws preventing us running fibre cables along side other cables. Planning to have my PCs in a server rack in the future. Similar to LTT's home setup, but not so extreme.

No idea. I don't think it'll be an issue though.

Qubicfactor · Oct 28, 2023

georgesnor said:
Hmm I wonder if they are any laws preventing us running fibre cables along side other cables. Planning to have my PCs in a server rack in the future. Similar to LTT's home setup, but not so extreme.

Why would there be such laws? Fibre cables aren't susceptible to emf interference nor would they cause interference anyway. What would be a bigger concern is if your bend radius is too small leading to signal loss.

htancl · Oct 28, 2023

keat84 said:
Wanted to check with all the brothers here, currently i am using Ubiquiti with U6-LR, USG, 8 Ports POE switch and 5 ports Flex, all is 1Gbit port.

My new BTO is ready somewhere next year, i was thinking should i upgrade to Dream Special Edition (I want to add G4 DoorBell Pro at main entrance, and probably with 2 G4 Bullet CCTV in living room and kitchen), U6-Enterprise x 2 and U6-Enterprise?

I see the new 10Gbps plan offered by SH and MR with TP-Link AXE300 and ST coming with Wifi 7 and also provide quite tokong tp-link router.

With the all thought to invest in new Unifi, should I just go for single TP-Link AXE300 and place it in living room? According to spec it can cover 3500sqft (but abit hao siao coz alot of wall in between). Can that single unit cover my whole house?

if not i need to cater for Cat6A cables for the AP, and the AP only 2.5Gbps not 10Gbps, Will it be very different from what i using now (1Gbps)?

Wanted to have the feedback how should i go? Or changing all to Ormada also good idea?

Why don’t you get WiFi 7 APs or routers. Saw challenger already selling the TP link WiFi 7 router. To utilize the speed of WiFi 7, might have to upgrade network switches to 10G ports.

IHasChimken · Oct 28, 2023

Qubicfactor said:
Why would there be such laws? Fibre cables aren't susceptible to emf interference nor would they cause interference anyway. What would be a bigger concern is if your bend radius is too small leading to signal loss.

Now that you mention it.. yeah make sense lol.

Side note: Are all those certs in your bio what you currently have? Damn...

Qubicfactor · Oct 29, 2023

georgesnor said:
Now that you mention it.. yeah make sense lol.

Side note: Are all those certs in your bio what you currently have? Damn...

I'm an accredited ISC2 and ISACA trainer so my rice bowl depends on them. Can't teach what you don't have yourself.

micromousez · Oct 29, 2023

Can the TP-Link Archer AXE300 router provided by MR be use for other ISP 1Gbps plan? Coming from the angle if it is "locked" by MR

xiaofan · Oct 29, 2023

micromousez said:
Can the TP-Link Archer AXE300 router provided by MR be use for other ISP 1Gbps plan? Coming from the angle if it is "locked" by MR

Of course it can be used. It is not locked.

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