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OngHuatHuat

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Why is Msian PR better than Sg PR?
It is really permanent and PR enjoys a lot of privileges that are similar to citizens.
SG PR on the other hand, need to renew every 5 years and not much subsidies or benefits.
 

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FH or leasehold depends on your needs. Like I won't turn down BTO just because it is leasehold. I am sitting on at least 200k capital appreciation and savings of lots of rental with my BTO. I don't intend to hold it for 99 years so it is immaterial if it is not FH.
FH is important for me to pass down to my next generation, I would rather forgo short term appreciation, besides I am sitting on fully paid FH landed in Singapore as well.

My son and daughter will be prepared for the future.
 

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If it makes you happy go for it. You can own 50% of Hermes Birkin which will appreciate or 100% of Coach bag which only depreciates, which one will you go for? I know my answer.
Problem with 50 percent ownership with citizen partner of real estate if a dispute rises guess who will have the upper hand.
 

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FH is important for me to pass down to my next generation, I would rather forgo short term appreciation, besides I am sitting on fully paid FH landed in Singapore as well.

My son and daughter will be prepared for the future.
Well you are lucky. My dad is sitting on 2 mortgage property in KL and would probably have nothing left when he goes (his wife not working) and my younger brother still living with them. Fortunately neither me nor my elder brother needs a single cent from him. I will earn my own wealth. And if i ever have kids I will make them earn their own keep. Because I found out, based on 1st hand experience, that tough times build resourceful people.

That is why W.Buffett and Jackie Chan wants to contribute most of their wealth to charity.
 

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Problem with 50 percent ownership with citizen partner of real estate if a dispute rises guess who will have the upper hand.
That is why you need trusted partners, all business relationship are like that. And it is impossible to build large empires on your own. Even Warren Buffett had trusted right hand man Charlie Munger.
 

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That is why you need trusted partners, all business relationship are like that. And it is impossible to build large empires on your own. Even Warren Buffett had trusted right hand man Charlie Munger.
So far I have never found a trusted partner when it comes to money and real estate, unless your trusted partner is your spouse
 

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So far I have never found a trusted partner when it comes to money and real estate, unless your trusted partner is your spouse
Still finding. Even spouse also can’t trust with money. Some females see money will bring out all the tools to backstab you. Many examples in this forum of guys being exploited by females.

Why do you think divorce proceedings so dramatic? Every party trying to sabotage the other party for maximum benefit.
 

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星洲

- mm2h currently aiming for 1 year trial, after that may adjust the conditions again

- minimum age 30, only for the group of 30-49 years old need to fullfil 60 days minimum stay (by yourself, your spouse or your dependents - as students maybe, can not add together, collectively means as a group, that means all must fullfill 60 days individually I think), no mentioning of those > 50 years old (only yourself need 60 days, your spouse or dependents no need ?)

https://www.sinchew.com.my/news/20231215/nation/5200454
no wonder looks so tempting on paper, 原来 is 放长线钓大鱼。gud luck butties.
 

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FH is important for me to pass down to my next generation, I would rather forgo short term appreciation, besides I am sitting on fully paid FH landed in Singapore as well.

My son and daughter will be prepared for the future.
FH is no matches for Land Acquisition acts….

and if the land no kena…..usually means either it too good…..or it not so good haha…..

anyways congrats to your kids……
 

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Good for your friends, how much did they profit? My dad has 2 properties in KL which he is unable to sell, obviously without a significant loss from his buying price. I'm not sure if you know that bumis get discount on properties?
best is merry an awek get spousal visa buy bumi land under her name build a castle luh.
 

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FH is no matches for Land Acquisition acts….

and if the land no kena…..usually means either it too good…..or it not so good haha…..

anyways congrats to your kids……
Will have compensation lah don't worry, we bought dirt cheap so no need worry for me Mr Sour

Worry about your 99 lease running out first and return back with ZERO value ha ha ha ha
 

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Will have compensation lah don't worry, we bought dirt cheap so no need worry for me Mr Sour
Relax bro…..me no sour…..i always very positive and happy for peoples…..

i gxgx you…..just sharing my views…..on why i thinks fh in sg not much different from 99 leasehold with at least 75 years left……

Anyways i sincerely is happy for your kids…..personal opinions is ok to be differents…..

me only stating objective facts…..just as you also states objective facts….

cheers…..
 

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PH didn‘t win. He is the PM because the King asked PH to work with BN or whoever parties who are wiling to form the Unity Gov.

Look at all the policies which Anwar flipped when he was opposition vs now he is the PM.

Even DAP the Chinese opposition also flipped after they become part of the Unity Gov.

How to trust those who have ZERO integrity?

Listen, smile smile can lah.

I have said this b4 and continue to say this. “If I am a Malaysian and have young children, I will encourage them to leave the place as soon as possible for better future”
yes, I also think unity gov is holding on barely, but the demographics not in their favor. chinese vs malay TFR is one factor, another is chinese voters migrating overseas while malay voters are stuck in their hometowns giving birth. and with the lowering of the voting age, imo sooner or later malaysia will become an islamic state. merry awek safer.
 
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Will have compensation lah don't worry, we bought dirt cheap so no need worry for me Mr Sour

Worry about your 99 lease running out first and return back with ZERO value ha ha ha ha
Mm ok….maybe you are right…..

Anyways me dead by then……hard to knows if value goes to zero or enbloc……

my kids not as lucky as your kids……
 

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Yes, FH is a must. Also landed since stsying high rise in sg for so long, xian liao. Landed also can hv own garden n plant some fruit trees. Morning air also fresher n cooler after sunset. Good security is important.
breakins aside, maintenance is a killer. wear and tear leakage from the roof, walls, gutters, discharge pipes enough to spend quite abit. if car porch is tiled, over time, tiles can crack/pop due to weight of the car or soil movement..also not cheap.

the rest are usual maintenance like external painting every few years. lawn mowing, termite treatment, remote gate motor. other than that, other maintenance is like a hdb.

but yes, landed is more convenient. near the house, press remote open the gate. drive in park.
 

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breakins aside, maintenance is a killer. wear and tear leakage from the roof, walls, gutters, discharge pipes enough to spend quite abit.

but yes, landed is more convenient. near the house, press remote open the gate. drive in park.
My landed since 1990s no maintenance so far all stay free.

Go look one tree hill many old landed, owners still living there.

Once next generation if they are CMI cannot maintain the house can sell for don't know how many millions and live off interest
 
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