New HDB BTO Flat - How do you connect your Home Fiber Network

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Thank you all for the replies! It looks like I will get an EdgeRouter then link it to 2 Xiaomi AX6000s. What EdgeRouter should I get though? ER-4 is $282 on Lazada.

Alternatively, I can do what uncle_josh suggested and have 2 LAN points in the Living Room to link the main router back to the DB Box then to the other AP. Will have to check the cost for adding an additional LAN point in the Living Room that is linked to the DB box. Anyone have any idea? Will trunking be required or can the electrician just split the existing LAN point into 2? Also, if I went with this route, what switch should i get to be put in the DB box?

Uhmm did you just took your keys, house under reno or already moved in?
 

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Anyway quick questions for the pros here, can i actually have 2 router working in the house because i am looking at the following setup

ONT -> Router #1 (Inside DB Box) -> Patch Panel ->

1. Lan Point 1 in Living Room -> Netgear Orbi RBK50 Router
2. Lan Point 2 in one of my room -> Netgear Orbi Satellite

This is because placing my Orbi RBK50 in DB box seems like a waste to me and currently my RBK50 in living room is Mesh with my Satellite in my room however MBR connections seems to be very bad :s22:
 

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Thank you all for the replies! It looks like I will get an EdgeRouter then link it to 2 Xiaomi AX6000s. What EdgeRouter should I get though? ER-4 is $282 on Lazada.

Alternatively, I can do what uncle_josh suggested and have 2 LAN points in the Living Room to link the main router back to the DB Box then to the other AP. Will have to check the cost for adding an additional LAN point in the Living Room that is linked to the DB box. Anyone have any idea? Will trunking be required or can the electrician just split the existing LAN point into 2? Also, if I went with this route, what switch should i get to be put in the DB box?
if you get 2x Xiaomi ax6000, no need edgerouter. Because you just need to mesh them up.

if you get edgerouter, then just get ubiquiti APs, easier to deploy around the house.

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Thank you all for the replies! It looks like I will get an EdgeRouter then link it to 2 Xiaomi AX6000s. What EdgeRouter should I get though? ER-4 is $282 on Lazada.

Alternatively, I can do what uncle_josh suggested and have 2 LAN points in the Living Room to link the main router back to the DB Box then to the other AP. Will have to check the cost for adding an additional LAN point in the Living Room that is linked to the DB box. Anyone have any idea? Will trunking be required or can the electrician just split the existing LAN point into 2? Also, if I went with this route, what switch should i get to be put in the DB box?

you can get an inexpensive wired router, e.g

https://www.lazada.sg/products/ubiq...ernet-routers-er-x-i232800207-s357168842.html

it should be cheaper than laying a new lan cable, and buy a new switch.
 

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Hello all!

I need some advice on setting up my home network for my new 4 room BTO.

I intend to sign with M1 for the 1Gbps plan, which I believe comes with an ASUS router for new sign ups.

I have LAN points running to the following areas
2 x Living Room
1 x Bedroom 1
1 x Bedroom 2
1 x Master Bedroom
1 x Shelter

If I wish to have WiFi coverage throughout the house, would it make sense to use the ASUS router as my main router to connect to the ONT located at the DB box, and to purchase an additional router (similar or lower grade) to locate it in one of the bedrooms to use it as an AP?

I would also prefer to have my gaming console wired in the living room as well. Will the above method work too?

Thanks!
 

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Hello all!

I need some advice on setting up my home network for my new 4 room BTO.

I intend to sign with M1 for the 1Gbps plan, which I believe comes with an ASUS router for new sign ups.

I have LAN points running to the following areas
2 x Living Room
1 x Bedroom 1
1 x Bedroom 2
1 x Master Bedroom
1 x Shelter

If I wish to have WiFi coverage throughout the house, would it make sense to use the ASUS router as my main router to connect to the ONT located at the DB box, and to purchase an additional router (similar or lower grade) to locate it in one of the bedrooms to use it as an AP?

I would also prefer to have my gaming console wired in the living room as well. Will the above method work too?

Thanks!

yes, but you have to check whether the 2 lan points in the living room are co-located. If not, you have to shift one of them.

you also need to place a low cost dumb network switch in the DB.

Alternatively, just buy a wired router and place it in the DB.

Read the previous messages in this thread for the wiring diagram for both methods.
 

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yes, but you have to check whether the 2 lan points in the living room are co-located. If not, you have to shift one of them.

you also need to place a low cost dumb network switch in the DB.

Alternatively, just buy a wired router and place it in the DB.

Read the previous messages in this thread for the wiring diagram for both methods.

Cool. Will the router provided by M1 be sufficient to use as a main router installed in the DB box?

Pardon my ignorance, but what is the use of a switch in the DB box? Is it because the router does not have enough ports to reach all of the 6 different LAN points?
 

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Cool. Will the router provided by M1 be sufficient to use as a main router installed in the DB box?

Pardon my ignorance, but what is the use of a switch in the DB box? Is it because the router does not have enough ports to reach all of the 6 different LAN points?

Putting a wireless router in a db box (or enclosed box) would not allow it to broadcast strong and reliable wifi. You either need to get another wireless router or AP and place it centrally in the house. Some houses might need more depending on the placement and layout.

Yes, switch is used to expand more ports.
 

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Putting a wireless router in a db box (or enclosed box) would not allow it to broadcast strong and reliable wifi. You either need to get another wireless router or AP and place it centrally in the house. Some houses might need more depending on the placement and layout.

Yes, switch is used to expand more ports.

I see. Would you recommend a TUF AX3000 to use as a main router in the DB box and to use the AX55 provided by M1 as an AP?
 

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Please put wifi router at the center of the house for maximum coverage.

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I see. Would you recommend a TUF AX3000 to use as a main router in the DB box and to use the AX55 provided by M1 as an AP?

don't waste your money.

The most expensive part of AX3000 is its wireless hardware, you are making it less effective or even have to disable it if AX3000 is placed in the DB.

There are many wired routers around, cost less than $100, e.g edge router X, TP-Link TL-R600...etc.
 

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I see. Would you recommend a TUF AX3000 to use as a main router in the DB box and to use the AX55 provided by M1 as an AP?

Read the answer provided previously.

If you want to buy TUF-AX3000 or RT-AX58U, that is a good buy. But it will be wasted to be put in the DB box.

ONT -- Living Room LAN port 1 -- Asus TUF AX3000 as main AImesh router node -- Living Room LAN port 2 -- dumb switch in DB box -- room LAN ports

Study room LAN port -- Desktop PC
Master room LAN port -- RT-AX55 AImesh node (just an example, you can put it in the room with weaker wifi signal).

The constraint here is that two LAN ports in the living room need to be close to each other.

The dumb switch can be a cheap TP-Link TL-SG105 below S$30.
 

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Read the answer provided previously.

If you want to buy TUF-AX3000 or RT-AX58U, that is a good buy. But it will be wasted to be put in the DB box.

ONT -- Living Room LAN port 1 -- Asus TUF AX3000 as main AImesh router node -- Living Room LAN port 2 -- dumb switch in DB box -- room LAN ports

Study room LAN port -- Desktop PC
Master room LAN port -- RT-AX55 AImesh node (just an example, you can put it in the room with weaker wifi signal).

The constraint here is that two LAN ports in the living room need to be close to each other.

The dumb switch can be a cheap TP-Link TL-SG105 below S$30.

I see. Unfortunately for me, the 2 ports in the living room are not close to each other. I might have to consider alternatives.

Thank you everyone for the responses!
 

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I see. Unfortunately for me, the 2 ports in the living room are not close to each other. I might have to consider alternatives.

Thank you everyone for the responses!

In that case, you may want to considered wired router or cheap router (disable wireless).

Wired router: EdgeRouter X which may be a bit more complicated to set up.

Cheap router (disable wireless): Asus RT-AC2600, Linksys EA7500 v2 or Linksys EA8100 v1, all from Carousell

Or you can still buy the TUF AX3000, but leave the lower end RT-AX55 in the DB box.
 

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DB = distribution box.

You place the Asus RT-AX55 at the Living room or centre of the house so that wifi signal coverage can be maximise. You will need a return path from the AX55 back to the DB, connect to a switch, so that it can distribute the internet connection to all the LAN points to the various rooms.

Velop
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Two ethernet ports (the router auto-configures these as WAN or LAN ports) are recessed inside the base of the router along with the power connector to reduce cable clutter.

Source : Linksys Velop Wi-Fi router review
Hi I'm also having the same layout as the below mention.

I signed up for M1 fibre 1gbps.coming to install next Tuesday

So far I heard from M1 is they will bring their Huawei Modemn. They have issued me with the Asus RT-AX55 router already.

I saw someone mention about Edgerouter. Qn is :

From TP point connect to Huawei Modemn to Asus AX55 router. The Asus AX55 router is best to place outside the dB box for better signal right?

Then Edgerouter put inside Mbr is it? Does it works like the velop where I only need to connect power or I also need to run a lan cable from it all the way back to the Asus router?
 

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One last alternative in which i did for my own similar situation: remove the DB cabinet door, make a new shelf below the DB box, put router there, make 2 new doors for DB cabinet. In a way, make a niche out of the DB cabinet to house the router.

Cons: limited space, need consider for future routers lying flat or standing up type.

Or see if your living room LAN1 has a telephone port near it. Engage technician to convert to RJ45.
 

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Hi all, will like to seek advice and inputs below on my new BTO flat network setup:

Basically the ONT is installed inside the DB cabinet (near to main door entrance and kitchen entrance), and all rooms are connected with LAN point. Below is an example of my flat floorplan, for better illustration.

https://www.houzz.com.sg/magazine/4...r-plan-3-different-looks-stsetivw-vs~92616136

Currently I have two routers, one is Asus RT-N56U and another is Asus RT-AX56U. From past posts I read so far, am I right on below configuration:

1. The low-end router (i.e. RT-N56U) to be placed inside the DB cabinet, with the ONT.

2. The better router (i.e. RT-AX56U) to be placed at the more centralised location (i.e. CBR2), and set it as AP.

FYI, I am subscribed to M1. For living room, my TV can be connected via LAN or WiFi.. For one of the common BR, I will required wired LAN connection to my PC.

Thanks.
 

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Hi all, will like to seek advice and inputs below on my new BTO flat network setup:

Basically the ONT is installed inside the DB cabinet (near to main door entrance and kitchen entrance), and all rooms are connected with LAN point. Below is an example of my flat floorplan, for better illustration.

https://www.houzz.com.sg/magazine/4...r-plan-3-different-looks-stsetivw-vs~92616136

Currently I have two routers, one is Asus RT-N56U and another is Asus RT-AX56U. From past posts I read so far, am I right on below configuration:

1. The low-end router (i.e. RT-N56U) to be placed inside the DB cabinet, with the ONT.

2. The better router (i.e. RT-AX56U) to be placed at the more centralised location (i.e. CBR2), and set it as AP.

FYI, I am subscribed to M1. For living room, my TV can be connected via LAN or WiFi.. For one of the common BR, I will required wired LAN connection to my PC.

Thanks.

Yes, for starters you can do the above approach. Depending on your needs, you may in future

- Add more access points around the house to cover blindspots (if any)
- Change the router at DB to a better one.
 

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Hi all, will like to seek advice and inputs below on my new BTO flat network setup:

Basically the ONT is installed inside the DB cabinet (near to main door entrance and kitchen entrance), and all rooms are connected with LAN point. Below is an example of my flat floorplan, for better illustration.

https://www.houzz.com.sg/magazine/4...r-plan-3-different-looks-stsetivw-vs~92616136

Currently I have two routers, one is Asus RT-N56U and another is Asus RT-AX56U. From past posts I read so far, am I right on below configuration:

1. The low-end router (i.e. RT-N56U) to be placed inside the DB cabinet, with the ONT.

2. The better router (i.e. RT-AX56U) to be placed at the more centralised location (i.e. CBR2), and set it as AP.

FYI, I am subscribed to M1. For living room, my TV can be connected via LAN or WiFi.. For one of the common BR, I will required wired LAN connection to my PC.

Thanks.

yes

The reason is: the main difference in the "low end" and "good" router normally happens at the wireless end.

In other words, you are paying much higher for high-end router because it has better wifi performance.

For our home environment, wired routing is a piece of cake, any simple router can do the job properly.

Putting the good router in DB is wasting your money. You build a good shield to degrade its performance.
 
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