NSF SOL

[tomgary]

last year dec i been charge for SOL for scolding the SGT vuglar will be charge for
21day SOL but till now they haven't charge me New OC have been change previously wanna charge me is old OC right now i going ORD in march 06 2014 will they extend my ORD date ? very scare sia extend ORD they are now busy preparing going oversea at march advance party move at first of march will they still charge me or will they let it go? anybody encounted this problem before ?

Sorry that my english not that good.

 

[kampong boi]

last year dec i been charge for SOL for scolding the SGT vuglar will be charge for
21day SOL but till now they haven't charge me New OC have been change previously wanna charge me is old OC right now i going ORD in march 06 2014 will they extend my ORD date ? very scare sia extend ORD they are now busy preparing going oversea at march advance party move at first of march will they still charge me or will they let it go? anybody encounted this problem before ?

Sorry that my english not that good.

keep quiet, act blur... they might let it go.

if you want, you can ask your CSM or PC if/when you will get charged

 

[mypillowtalks]

last year dec i been charge for SOL for scolding the SGT vuglar will be charge for
21day SOL but till now they haven't charge me New OC have been change previously wanna charge me is old OC right now i going ORD in march 06 2014 will they extend my ORD date ? very scare sia extend ORD they are now busy preparing going oversea at march advance party move at first of march will they still charge me or will they let it go? anybody encounted this problem before ?

Sorry that my english not that good.

Firstly, if the punishment awarded to you is "Stoppages of leave", your ORD date should not be extended.

What is your current rank?
And what is the rank of the officer charging you? Junior disciplinary officer(eg. 2LT, LTA, CPT) can only give you certain punishment

I read the following online when i was told i may get charged:

Minor punishments for soldiers of and above the rank of private (first class) up to master sergeant or ME2
28. A junior disciplinary officer and a senior disciplinary officer may award to persons of and above the rank of private (first class) up to the rank of master sergeant or ME2 any one of the following minor punishments:
(a)
stoppage of leave (not exceeding 28 days);
(b)
admonition.
Minor punishments for privates and recruits
29. A junior disciplinary officer and a senior disciplinary officer may award to privates (including servicemen holding trainee ranks which are equivalent to the rank of private) and recruits any one of the following minor punishments:
(a)
restriction of privileges for any period not exceeding 14 days;
(b)
stoppage of leave (not exceeding 28 days);
(c)
extra work and drill (not exceeding 7 days);
(d)
extra guard or picquet duties not exceeding 3 in number;
(e)
admonition.

From:
http://statutes.agc.gov.sg/aol/sear...TransactionTime:20140108000000;rec=0#pr28-he-.

SOL simply means something like you can't leave camp for 21 days. It will help if you are mentally prepared.

You can talk it out with your officers, and clear the air with the sergeant, they may decide to let the matter rest.

Next time don't scold your sergeant vulgarities, not worth to get in trouble.

If you are really unhappy with him you can talk to other commanders, go through the chain of command.

If you think the punishment given out by your sergeant is endangering your life, voice out, look for help, talk to other commanders. Get an medical officer to access you if you think you are injured/sick. Sergeants can get charged too.

Good luck

 

[mgx-alander]

act blur live longer...

 

[Successor.]

Since your previous OC who wanted to charge you have been replaced by a new OC, the responsibility is up to the new OC whether or not to charge you.

Usually only the direct authority of the serviceman can execute charges.

 

[tomgary]

Firstly, if the punishment awarded to you is "Stoppages of leave", your ORD date should not be extended.

What is your current rank?
And what is the rank of the officer charging you? Junior disciplinary officer(eg. 2LT, LTA, CPT) can only give you certain punishment

I read the following online when i was told i may get charged:



SOL simply means something like you can't leave camp for 21 days. It will help if you are mentally prepared.

You can talk it out with your officers, and clear the air with the sergeant, they may decide to let the matter rest.

Next time don't scold your sergeant vulgarities, not worth to get in trouble.

If you are really unhappy with him you can talk to other commanders, go through the chain of command.

If you think the punishment given out by your sergeant is endangering your life, voice out, look for help, talk to other commanders. Get an medical officer to access you if you think you are injured/sick. Sergeants can get charged too.

Good luck

No use one. My company is side sergeant one my rank pte the person charging me is 1crab .

 

[tomgary]

act blur live longer...

Been act blur for a month yesterday heard them say charging me next Friday and confirm 100% burn my Cny.

 

[tomgary]

Since your previous OC who wanted to charge you have been replaced by a new OC, the responsibility is up to the new OC whether or not to charge you.

Usually only the direct authority of the serviceman can execute charges.

Do they have the right to call me back if I on leave? I know off they have the right to ask me back.

 

[Successor.]

MAJ rank in your unit is OC? Not S1-S4?
Major is senior disciplinary officer lehs as opposed to CPT (which I thought initially) which is considered a junior disciplinary officer.
If a case have to reach SDO to settle means quite serious, usually CPT (JDO) can handle charges for such cases.

Yes leave is considered recallable by unit (this is not referring to your case but in general).

Anyway SOL 21 days for just a vulgarity IMO is too harsh.

Did you even apologise? If you did and you believed it was a one time event and you did not mean it, you may want to consider appeal through higher avenue for a lighter charge.

There is no such thing as siding with sergeant, both sides of the story have to be heard before any charges can be mete out. Do not that SOL is a formal punishment and your unit needs to exercise fairness.

If you think that the punishment mete out is unfair to you, please bring it out when you are officially called to be charged. Don't accept any charges unwillingly.

 

[j_t_fusion]

chances are TS is not a "first time offender". he must have knowingly or unknowingly been causing trouble for his superiors.

either that or TS's vulgarity so powerful that the unit thinks that he deserves to be rewarded with a 21 guns salute.

 

[zero90]

MAJ rank in your unit is OC? Not S1-S4?
Major is senior disciplinary officer lehs as opposed to CPT (which I thought initially) which is considered a junior disciplinary officer.
If a case have to reach SDO to settle means quite serious, usually CPT (JDO) can handle charges for such cases.

Yes leave is considered recallable by unit (this is not referring to your case but in general).

Anyway SOL 21 days for just a vulgarity IMO is too harsh.

Did you even apologise? If you did and you believed it was a one time event and you did not mean it, you may want to consider appeal through higher avenue for a lighter charge.

There is no such thing as siding with sergeant, both sides of the story have to be heard before any charges can be mete out. Do not that SOL is a formal punishment and your unit needs to exercise fairness.

If you think that the punishment mete out is unfair to you, please bring it out when you are officially called to be charged. Don't accept any charges unwillingly.

And I thought oc appt,regardless of rank is jdo while co appt is then sdo

 

[dante-z]

SOL is weekend confinement right ? i had a 2 weekends confinement before.. a total 19 consecutive days ..

after that ends , I clear leave and ORD lo....

 

[reddevil0728]

SOL is weekend confinement right ? i had a 2 weekends confinement before.. a total 19 consecutive days ..

after that ends , I clear leave and ORD lo....

not just weekends. If there's any public holidays during ur SOL period, you also cannot go home

 

[tomgary]

MAJ rank in your unit is OC? Not S1-S4?
Major is senior disciplinary officer lehs as opposed to CPT (which I thought initially) which is considered a junior disciplinary officer.
If a case have to reach SDO to settle means quite serious, usually CPT (JDO) can handle charges for such cases.

Yes leave is considered recallable by unit (this is not referring to your case but in general).

Anyway SOL 21 days for just a vulgarity IMO is too harsh.

Did you even apologise? If you did and you believed it was a one time event and you did not mean it, you may want to consider appeal through higher avenue for a lighter charge.

There is no such thing as siding with sergeant, both sides of the story have to be heard before any charges can be mete out. Do not that SOL is a formal punishment and your unit needs to exercise fairness.

If you think that the punishment mete out is unfair to you, please bring it out when you are officially called to be charged. Don't accept any charges unwillingly.

Ya MAJ is my company OC not under S1 - S4
I did apologize but is after the problem . and I seek for other officer help as that stated as long I say a single vulgarity is consider hard case to fight.
Yes this is a unwilling charge the 3SG provoke me shouted at me for never go eat lunch.

 

[tomgary]

chances are TS is not a "first time offender". he must have knowingly or unknowingly been causing trouble for his superiors.

either that or TS's vulgarity so powerful that the unit thinks that he deserves to be rewarded with a 21 guns salute.

This is my first timer.
Ccb powerful?
Anyway I have depression record and before I got this I told them don't provoke me or I will do whatever thing I can't control isn't that show he provoke me if he does not shouted at me? Couldn't he just talk nicely?

 

[tomgary]

not just weekends. If there's any public holidays during ur SOL period, you also cannot go home

They charging me at 25 my Cny this more jialet cannot eat lunar with family.

 

[Successor.]

Ya MAJ is my company OC not under S1 - S4
I did apologize but is after the problem . and I seek for other officer help as that stated as long I say a single vulgarity is consider hard case to fight.
Yes this is a unwilling charge the 3SG provoke me shouted at me for never go eat lunch.

Probably your attitude towards them. Maybe you want to just tone down a little and apologise again? Don't say it with any ego or threaten them. By saying that " if they provoke you, you will do anything" is really considered threatening.

It doesn't work in army. In army is really suck thumb especially you hold no rank to even start with.

 

[k0sm0s]

Whatever it is, just know once you ORD you will have nothing to do with them anymore. Not worth to remember hatred just for that 2 years. You will meet many more people in your life.

Also, the more you argue with them, the more they willing to serve you the charge you know? Some things you really have to suck thumb and accept it.
No matter how you argue, you cannot reject the charge one. So why not show them you are willing to accept the punishment, maybe they won't give you so harsh?

And CNY... I understand la, but the 2 years you are in army, sometimes you can forget about CNY one... There are plenty of chinese people who bo bian got to sacrifice their CNY just for duties. Just remember you are going to ORD liao, just a bit more only and you are free.

 

[kampong boi]

This is my first timer.
Ccb powerful?
Anyway I have depression record and before I got this I told them don't provoke me or I will do whatever thing I can't control isn't that show he provoke me if he does not shouted at me? Couldn't he just talk nicely?

I feel you might have a case of being provoked. I always believe there is no smoke without fire, an action/reaction causes another reaction, butterfly effect.

1st, you must keep your temper in check. 2nd, it is usually when something happens then actions are done, there is only so much that you can hold your temper.

Some people even better, use words to agitate people punch him. 1 party for provoking, the other for physical contact.

 

[Shion]

kena SOL, ORD date wont extend la