Nvidia RTX 3050 GPU

[m0n0n0ke]

I am surprised that people are willing to pay such premiums to buy a entry level gpu...

worst time to buy gpu in history

 

[Rapt0r]

Got Ray tracing wor

Now I understand why prices don't drop much

 

[Rapt0r]

worst time to buy gpu in history

Made possible by miners, scalpers, greedy retailers/distributors, nvidia and amd as well as people who are willing to buy at absurd prices.

 

[tsteo77]

Try not to use image of a political government, they are protected by laws.

 

[tsteo77]

Made possible by miners, scalpers, greedy retailers/distributors, nvidia and amd as well as people who are willing to buy at absurd prices.

I thought it's because of covid 19, peoples start to work or play at home ?

 

[tsteo77]

The Crypto really affect GPU price so unless you need one now than buy.
If not wait cuz Intel sooner will release their mining chip design solely for mining.
By than mining GPU will slowly move to the new mining platform.

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/intels-bitcoin-mining-bonanza-chip-bags-its-first-big-customer
FYI if anyone looking at around $300 GPU, can look at GTX1060 etc.
GTX970 goes around $200 for second hand but it is dated GPU.
I myself still use GTX 1050 so I am more in need of a upgrade but I wait for the price to drop first.

@techidiot, i don't believe you only have GTX 1050, i saw the graphics card of the image you posted a while ago regarding sound card issue, it does not look like a GTX 1050. You must have a few better graphics card ?

 

[86technie]

@techidiot, i don't believe you only have GTX 1050, i saw the graphics card of the image you posted a while ago regarding sound card issue, it does not look like a GTX 1050. You must have a few better graphics card ?

At the moment only that card, others I have sold cuz don't really game that much these days.

 

[Gaminator]

It can't run DLSS, but there are other upscaling technology that it can leverage on. I recall Nvidia released something similar to DLSS recently. Even FSR works with the Nvidia cards with no Tensor cores, which basically negates any reasons to get the RX 6500 since it also relies on FSR.

Well, with the imminent release of AMD RSR (only for RX5000 and RX 6000 series cards), it can be used to leverage that tech.....same goes with the RX 5xxx series if you can score one for less.

Edit - While I agree that the RX 6500 XT has been severely gimped, I've watched YT vids of it being used in games (not other purpose) and it beats the GTX 1650 easily enough, and combined with a PCIe 4.0 mobo, it does deliver good enough framerate at reasonable ingame settings at 1080P. That means not 'Ultra' setting, no 'HD Texture packs', no 1440P res.

These YT'er are saying that with some visual settings set at mix of Low-High, you can net a pretty satisfying gaming experience, forget productivity work, just gaming. Forums I go to seem to have latched on to 17fps at Ultra at 1080P, this is where perhaps the 4GB VRAM has been saturated. As long as visual settings are kept real, it can do the job, at least better than the GTX 1650 in a vast majority of the games I've seen tested.

A new GTX 1650 costs about 500SGD over at Amazon Sg, yet peeps are crapping over a card that cost cost 360SGD (Sapphire Pulse RX 6500 XT) that outperforms it in games. Yes, when accounting for productivity purposes, the GTX 1650 does better, but from a pure gaming perspective (especially with a PCIe 4.0 mobo), the RX 6500 XT beats it handily.

Please, don't take what I'd said as a recommendation, but for peeps with modern systems but lacking a gaming capable GPU (on a tight budget, or need a temp card), between the RX 6500 XT and the more expensive GTX 1650, I'd take the former since I'm all about gaming.

 

[Ark Law]

Well, with the imminent release of AMD RSR (only for RX5000 and RX 6000 series cards), it can be used to leverage that tech.....same goes with the RX 5xxx series if you can score one for less.

Edit - While I agree that the RX 6500 XT has been severely gimped, I've watched YT vids of it being used in games (not other purpose) and it beats the GTX 1650 easily enough, and combined with a PCIe 4.0 mobo, it does deliver good enough framerate at reasonable ingame settings at 1080P. That means not 'Ultra' setting, no 'HD Texture packs', no 1440P res.

These YT'er are saying that with some visual settings set at mix of Low-High, you can net a pretty satisfying gaming experience, forget productivity work, just gaming. Forums I go to seem to have latched on to 17fps at Ultra at 1080P, this is where perhaps the 4GB VRAM has been saturated. As long as visual settings are kept real, it can do the job, at least better than the GTX 1650 in a vast majority of the games I've seen tested.

A new GTX 1650 costs about 500SGD over at Amazon Sg, yet peeps are crapping over a card that cost cost 360SGD (Sapphire Pulse RX 6500 XT) that outperforms it in games. Yes, when accounting for productivity purposes, the GTX 1650 does better, but from a pure gaming perspective (especially with a PCIe 4.0 mobo), the RX 6500 XT beats it handily.

Please, don't take what I'd said as a recommendation, but for peeps with modern systems but lacking a gaming capable GPU (on a tight budget, or need a temp card), between the RX 6500 XT and the more expensive GTX 1650, I'd take the former since I'm all about gaming.

Exactly. It is what MLID jas been saying;

If one needs a brand new card solely for gaming at 1080p today without extortionate pricing, the 6500XT is pretty much the card to get.

It is not the card to get because it is a good product, but is the best PC gaming option in a <$400 BNIB range.

 

[watzup_ken]

Well, with the imminent release of AMD RSR (only for RX5000 and RX 6000 series cards), it can be used to leverage that tech.....same goes with the RX 5xxx series if you can score one for less.

Edit - While I agree that the RX 6500 XT has been severely gimped, I've watched YT vids of it being used in games (not other purpose) and it beats the GTX 1650 easily enough, and combined with a PCIe 4.0 mobo, it does deliver good enough framerate at reasonable ingame settings at 1080P. That means not 'Ultra' setting, no 'HD Texture packs', no 1440P res.

These YT'er are saying that with some visual settings set at mix of Low-High, you can net a pretty satisfying gaming experience, forget productivity work, just gaming. Forums I go to seem to have latched on to 17fps at Ultra at 1080P, this is where perhaps the 4GB VRAM has been saturated. As long as visual settings are kept real, it can do the job, at least better than the GTX 1650 in a vast majority of the games I've seen tested.

A new GTX 1650 costs about 500SGD over at Amazon Sg, yet peeps are crapping over a card that cost cost 360SGD (Sapphire Pulse RX 6500 XT) that outperforms it in games. Yes, when accounting for productivity purposes, the GTX 1650 does better, but from a pure gaming perspective (especially with a PCIe 4.0 mobo), the RX 6500 XT beats it handily.

Please, don't take what I'd said as a recommendation, but for peeps with modern systems but lacking a gaming capable GPU (on a tight budget, or need a temp card), between the RX 6500 XT and the more expensive GTX 1650, I'd take the former since I'm all about gaming.

My key issue with the RX 6500 XT is the fact that the product is a mismatch for its target market. This is a budget card, so I don't expect budget gamers to have cutting edge PCI-E 4.0. For example, AMD's actual budget CPUs are all running PCI-E 3.0, for example, Ryzen 3600, 4xxxG and 5xxxG, so it is not just a problem for Intel. Even if you have a R5 5600X, some people may have reused their older B450 or X470 boards, which again is a problem. While you can argue the point that people will eventually move to PCI-E 4.0 or faster platforms as they change their coms or upgrade, but the card is available now, so it is a problem now and in the near future.
As for the GTX 1650, I've recently scooped up an Asus card with GDDR6 for SGD 280 on Amazon and I saw similar listing quite a number of times. The cheapest RX 6500 XT on Carousell by a legit store I saw is 359 with 2 years local warranty. So it really depends on one's priorities. I would prefer to just get the cheaper GTX 1650, which is not as fast if the RX 6500 XT is running on PCI-E 4.0, but at PCI-E 3.0, they may not perform that very differently. And while I lose out on performance and AV1 decoder, but the GTX 1650 is still a more feature rich card for me.

 

[watzup_ken]

Exactly. It is what MLID jas been saying;

If one needs a brand new card solely for gaming at 1080p today without extortionate pricing, the 6500XT is pretty much the card to get.

It is not the card to get because it is a good product, but is the best PC gaming option in a <$400 BNIB range.

If this card is sub 300 SGD, I think the value is still fair considering the pricing of GPUs now and the MSRP of USD 199. The max I think I can give it is SGD 350. For me, my advise to AMD is to pull up their socks in the GPU space. While I understand that there is a shortage of GPU, and/ or, crazy prices, but a bad product is a bad product. Why do I say its bad? If you compare the RX 6500 XT with its predecessor, the RX 5500 XT, the performance improvement if any is marginal on average. Yet feature wise, everything regressed. While we can no longer find the RX 5500 XT, the reality is that the successor is worst than what it is replacing. In the history of GPUs since the time I started tinkering with DIY hardware, I think this is one of the rare few cases.

 

[kimsix]

If this card is sub 300 SGD, I think the value is still fair considering the pricing of GPUs now and the MSRP of USD 199. The max I think I can give it is SGD 350. For me, my advise to AMD is to pull up their socks in the GPU space. While I understand that there is a shortage of GPU, and/ or, crazy prices, but a bad product is a bad product. Why do I say its bad? If you compare the RX 6500 XT with its predecessor, the RX 5500 XT, the performance improvement if any is marginal on average. Yet feature wise, everything regressed. While we can no longer find the RX 5500 XT, the reality is that the successor is worst than what it is replacing. In the history of GPUs since the time I started tinkering with DIY hardware, I think this is one of the rare few cases.

anyone managed get zotac 3050 for $389? I think that is best value now.
6500xt is quite bad that you watch 4k-8k videos, can caused lag after amd gimped the decoder

 

[NightRaven49]

This is a budget card, so I don't expect budget gamers to have cutting edge PCI-E 4.0.

not really true anymore. better budget options from intel have been available for a year now in the form of the 11400, which u can get a decent cpu + b560 mobo combo for about $400-$500, which is actually cheaper than an equivalent r5 3600 + b550 combo while still offering more performance all round and has pcie4. i expect the non k alder lake cpus (ie. 12100, 12400 etc) to drive down prices of pcie4 systems soon. i would still say the 6500xt is a reasonable purchase for new builders (other than those really skimping with last gen parts).

For example, AMD's actual budget CPUs are all running PCI-E 3.0, for example, Ryzen 3600

3600 is pcie 4 compliant. 4000g and 5000g are not though, so u are still mostly correct.

Why do I say its bad? If you compare the RX 6500 XT with its predecessor, the RX 5500 XT, the performance improvement if any is marginal on average. Yet feature wise, everything regressed.

...

While we can no longer find the RX 5500 XT

u literally just dismantled ur argument with this. sure, objectively the 6500xt barely qualifies as a """proper""" gpu, but it is the best option if one doesnt want to get burned as hard in this market as other options. the asus 1650 on amazon u mentioned is also a reasonable deal, but probably doesnt have local warranty support.

 

[lumpyme]

6500xt was out of stock everywhere for a week after it was released. scalpers and miners soon found that the card is no good for games or crypto so now you can find 6500xt available everywhere
it's barely $300 sgd on newegg at the moment

i believe 3050 is the same, perhaps scalpers would hoard a number of cards early on hoping to make a quick buck but eventually the supply will outweigh the demand

 

[86technie]

Well, with the imminent release of AMD RSR (only for RX5000 and RX 6000 series cards), it can be used to leverage that tech.....same goes with the RX 5xxx series if you can score one for less.

Edit - While I agree that the RX 6500 XT has been severely gimped, I've watched YT vids of it being used in games (not other purpose) and it beats the GTX 1650 easily enough, and combined with a PCIe 4.0 mobo, it does deliver good enough framerate at reasonable ingame settings at 1080P. That means not 'Ultra' setting, no 'HD Texture packs', no 1440P res.

These YT'er are saying that with some visual settings set at mix of Low-High, you can net a pretty satisfying gaming experience, forget productivity work, just gaming. Forums I go to seem to have latched on to 17fps at Ultra at 1080P, this is where perhaps the 4GB VRAM has been saturated. As long as visual settings are kept real, it can do the job, at least better than the GTX 1650 in a vast majority of the games I've seen tested.

A new GTX 1650 costs about 500SGD over at Amazon Sg, yet peeps are crapping over a card that cost cost 360SGD (Sapphire Pulse RX 6500 XT) that outperforms it in games. Yes, when accounting for productivity purposes, the GTX 1650 does better, but from a pure gaming perspective (especially with a PCIe 4.0 mobo), the RX 6500 XT beats it handily.

Please, don't take what I'd said as a recommendation, but for peeps with modern systems but lacking a gaming capable GPU (on a tight budget, or need a temp card), between the RX 6500 XT and the more expensive GTX 1650, I'd take the former since I'm all about gaming.

I agree if your PC have PCIE4.0 get cards like RX6500XT.
For me I am still on Intel 9th so only PCIE3.0, I am waiting for GTX1650 to drop price before
upgrading my current GTX1050.

Before the Crypto mania, GTX1650 cost around $300 for what I remember while GTX1050
cost around $200 but now the price is either double or close to $500.
Second hand cards like GTX1050 also no exceptional, some is willing to sell around $200 - $300
for it.

For second hand cards have to be take note of the condition of the card like oxidation, rust, dusty
fan etc.

 

[Ark Law]

I agree if your PC have PCIE4.0 get cards like RX6500XT.
For me I am still on Intel 9th so only PCIE3.0, I am waiting for GTX1650 to drop price before
upgrading my current GTX1050.

Before the Crypto mania, GTX1650 cost around $300 for what I remember while GTX1050
cost around $200 but now the price is either double or close to $500.
Second hand cards like GTX1050 also no exceptional, some is willing to sell around $200 - $300
for it.

I don't fully research, but from what I see, GTX1650 is currently at $350. Which is around where the 6500XT is also going for

 

[KYZT2021]

End of the day, your wallet your choice, both coy are out to make profits not charity

 

[ragnarok95]

I agree if your PC have PCIE4.0 get cards like RX6500XT.
For me I am still on Intel 9th so only PCIE3.0, I am waiting for GTX1650 to drop price before
upgrading my current GTX1050.

Before the Crypto mania, GTX1650 cost around $300 for what I remember while GTX1050
cost around $200 but now the price is either double or close to $500.
Second hand cards like GTX1050 also no exceptional, some is willing to sell around $200 - $300
for it.

For second hand cards have to be take note of the condition of the card like oxidation, rust, dusty
fan etc.

Don’t bother with GTX1650. RX6500XT 8GB just cost S$339 now.

 

[Ark Law]

Don’t bother with GTX1650. RX6500XT 8GB just cost S$339 now.

With 1650 at $350, is 6500XT still the preferred option?

 

[tsteo77]

Don’t bother with GTX1650. RX6500XT 8GB just cost S$339 now.

Can you kindly point me to the location for a RX6500XT 8GB at s$339 ?